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barb_z · Post by **barb_z** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:38 pm

Love those almost blue lines. I am trying and my tongue is too. It does take time. hope my lines look like those someday
Barb

Flying_Norseman · Post by **Flying_Norseman** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:43 pm

Ok do you think I should change it to 10 to 16?

[quote="ozij"][quote="Flying_Norseman"]Yes it does. Thanks for taking the time to explain it. I was Titrated at 10cm during my sleep study. I guess it is very possible that the snores are causing me to lose the seal on my mask and the machine is pumping more air to compensate.

Could the machine be chasing snores and raising the pressure too much causing a lot of my problems? I only set APAP from 8 to 16 to try and find an optimal pressure so I could set it at that pressure in CPAP mode.

Wulfman · Post by **Wulfman** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:01 pm

I think 10 - 12 would be more sensible (if you insist on using a range of pressures), but then you already know my opinions on the pressure, sleeping positions and leakage.

Den

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:41 am

For finding a right pressure, I would try a 10-16 range for some nights before deciding on narrowing it.

O.

Wulfman · Post by **Wulfman** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:46 am

ozij wrote:For finding a right pressure, I would try a 10-16 range for some nights before deciding on narrowing it.

O.

IMO.....unless you're leaking like a sieve.
If leaks are causing pressure changes, it (a narrower range) will at least put a faster cap on the pressure changes. If it keeps bumping up against the top pressure, you'll see it in the reports.

Den

Flying_Norseman · Post by **Flying_Norseman** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:45 pm

I set a tighter range last night of 10 to 13 and my numbers were a lot better. I had a total of 3.3 AHI however, when the pressure went up nearing the ceiling of 13 my leaks went way up along with my snores and AHI. I am going to put it on straight CPAP for the next seven days and get some data to see how to proceed.

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:20 pm

3.3 sounds much better!
O.

Flying_Norseman · Post by **Flying_Norseman** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:18 pm

Yeah and I can definitely feel the difference.

ozij wrote:3.3 sounds much better!
O.

socknitster · Post by **socknitster** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:10 am

This is why a one night sleep study often falls short of optimizing therapy. One has to really be a detective and figure out how to maximize the treatment over time to really see optimal results. Time, patience, experience. All of these are necessary.

It really seems a shame that we can't be having these kinds of detailed conversations with our doctors. My sleep doctor (former s.d.) couldn't give a flying crap and my ENT, while a sharp surgeon and caring doctor just doesn't know enough about cpap to truly help me. I found the help I needed here and through my own experimentation.

I hope that this changes in the future. Either the technology has to improve a whole bunch more (it is already amazing, really when you think about it) or patient care in this field has to vastly improve.

I'm so glad you are feeling better, FN!

Jen

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:49 pm

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Flying_Norseman · Post by **Flying_Norseman** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:36 pm

I went to the DME today to trade in my Liberty for a different FF mask. I just couldn't get the Liberty to work. Anyway, during our discussion I told him how I liked the Swift II, but air escaped from my mouth and I had heard of people taping their mouths shut to deal with the issue. He said that he knows a doctor that does that. He stopped short of recommending it to me though and I left with a Quattro. Oh, and the Liberty, which I don't know what I am going to do with now.

socknitster · Post by **socknitster** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:15 pm

Trade it on the roulette thread for someone else's used something or other.

Jen