FDA Class !! prescription requirement for CPAP Mask

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:30 pm

Mine are technically "foobs", false boobs.
They are well-behaved, not attempting frogicide, (like the real ones)
not sagging or bouncing excessively,
but they will dance on cue.

little egypt, is that you?

More like Terry Crews.

mjrodr wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:34 pm

. If you want me to go somewhere else to have a conversation about this topic I suggest that you not read my posts or this thread.
Thanks

HAH, you must be new to the internet...

mjrodr wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:16 pm

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:11 pm

I just did a search for the word "boobs", returned 154 hits.

The significance of what that means seems undeniable..........

Not sure what you are implying....


boob
noun
a stupid person; fool; dunce.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/boob

I believe, but may be wrong, that he is mocking you

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:30 pm

Mine are technically "foobs", false boobs.
They are well-behaved, not attempting frogicide, (like the real ones)
not sagging or bouncing excessively,
but they will dance on cue.

This is more welcome than the pointless whining about the FDA and their silly rules.

How're you doing, my favorite frog? Everything going well,still all clear?

palerider wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:21 pm

This is more welcome than the pointless whining about the FDA and their silly rules.

where ya been, son? hasn't been the same without you.

zonker wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:01 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:21 pm

This is more welcome than the pointless whining about the FDA and their silly rules.

where ya been, son? hasn't been the same without you.

Keeping wayyyy too busy of late, doing well, as far as I know, all things considered.

palerider wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:21 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:30 pm

Mine are technically "foobs", false boobs.
They are well-behaved, not attempting frogicide, (like the real ones)
not sagging or bouncing excessively,
but they will dance on cue.

This is more welcome than the pointless whining about the FDA and their silly rules.

How're you doing, my favorite frog? Everything going well,still all clear?

Five years out, and all clear. (Knock on wood)
The upside of having been obsessive about my yearly mammograms.
I will never be dismissive about clean freaks--apparently, they were onto something.

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:09 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:21 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:30 pm

Mine are technically "foobs", false boobs.
They are well-behaved, not attempting frogicide, (like the real ones)
not sagging or bouncing excessively,
but they will dance on cue.

This is more welcome than the pointless whining about the FDA and their silly rules.

How're you doing, my favorite frog? Everything going well,still all clear?

Five years out, and all clear. (Knock on wood)
The upside of having been obsessive about my yearly mammograms.
I will never be dismissive about clean freaks--apparently, they were onto something.

At least in relation to boobs

Hello CPAP.COM - Since you host this website I would assume that you also moderate it, and if you do you must also be supporting your resident troll. I said my peace, I was polite, and most of all was hoping to find support among fellow sleep apnea sufferers. I would think that lowering costs and addressing bureaucratic hurdles many of us face would be relevant topic of discussion. What a shame. This will be my last post here as I do not feed trolls nor do I like being insulted by them.

Good luck and thank you

mjrodr wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:59 am

Hello CPAP.COM - Since you host this website I would assume that you also moderate it, and if you do you must also be supporting your resident troll. I said my peace, I was polite, and most of all was hoping to find support among fellow sleep apnea sufferers. I would think that lowering costs and addressing bureaucratic hurdles many of us face would be relevant topic of discussion. What a shame. This will be my last post here as I do not feed trolls nor do I like being insulted by them.

Good luck and thank you

many people have said "this will be my last post here" and yet, somehow, they have more to say.

the moderator has already posted in this thread, so she's aware of the content. and apparently, doesn't have a problem with it.

it's the nature of this forum. not everyone is comfortable with it. but the owners of this forum are large advocates for free speech. as such, they are perfectly okay with the moderation. and so, we get to have more lively conversations here.

if you don't like the level of back and forth here, you can always try apneaboard. they are more tightly moderated and may be more to your liking.

i type the above on the off chance that you will return to see if your post has had any impact.

<narrator's voice: it hasn't.>

zonker wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:15 am

the moderator has already posted in this thread, so she's aware of the content. and apparently, doesn't have a problem with it.

She is indeed aware. While I hate to see things get a bit off track with the name calling because it helps no one...I am an extension of the forum owner and have to lean towards how I think he would feel about people saying things that might be viewed differently by different people in terms of anything I do.

He's a Texan....really, really big into freedoms on both sides. The good, the bad and the ugly. He has posted his thoughts in the past as to why he allows what he allows. Essentially he has the hope that deep down people will end up abiding by the Golden Rule but in reality we all know that doesn't always happen. He gives people a wide latitude though in hopes that eventually they will come around.
He knows that just about any discussion can become "heated" and values the opinions on both sides of the "heated" discussion as well as the right of both sides to voice that opinion.

Me...not so much...I don't think people will change and once an asshole always an asshole because they enjoy it. It's their own personality. Unless a post blatantly violates the stated terms of agreement we all agree to when we join this forum....nothing will be done when minor differences in opinions get voiced.
Just because one person doesn't like what someone else says....there's nothing in the terms of agreement that addresses that fact.
Just because someone calls someone else a troll or whatever....there's nothing in the terms of agreement that addresses that fact.
Just because someone posts something they think is important and someone else posts a differing opinion....there's nothing in the terms of agreement that addresses that fact.

Both sides get to voice their opinions. Now sometimes the way they voice it isn't maybe the most politically correct way to voice it but again....there's nothing in the terms of agreement that says we have to voice things in a certain way.

Johnny doesn't like censorship in any form....that's just the way it is folks. Get over it and if you don't like it...move on to some place else that maybe has a more rigid frame on their forum in termsI of what and how people say things. Like I have said many times before....it's Johnny's sandbox and he gets to set the rules and if we don't like them we can go play in someone else's sandbox.

I do the best I can to diffuse heated discussions mainly so they don't disrupt the overall environment of the forum itself. It's a thankless job....no way can I please everyone. Someone is always going to be on the unhappy side of whatever I do or don't do....BUT....the one person I do have to make happy is Johnny. Remember folks...I am an extension of the forum owner. I serve at his pleasure.
I am human though...I do have my own personal opinions and thoughts which I sometimes have to put aside and sometimes I simply can't put them aside. I do the best I can though. You get what you pay for....I am an unpaid voluteer moderator.

See my next post about cpap.com and the RX requirement gripe.

Now Den mentioned this above but let me make it really clear...

Complete mask packages have always had the RX sticker on them. That means the federal government says you need a RX to buy one.
For years it was quietly ignored and most online suppliers didn't enforce that little rule. Cpap.com didn't enforce it until late 2009.
When I first joined this forum and ordered from cpap.com...didn't need to furnish a copy of my cpap RX to buy a complete mask package.
Then shortly later the policy was changed....and the reason it was changed was because cpap.com was forced to change it or they couldn't sell the complete mask packages. Trust me...it wasn't something they wanted to do. It's more work for everyone and no one wants more work. Cpap.com has rules they have to follow set by any number of people for any number of things.
They have rules set by various manufacturers as to where they can ship stuff or what prices they can sell items at.....they have to abide by the rules or not be able to sell the products. They have to sell products to stay in business....so they follow the rules.

Now there are some sellers in various places that again ignore the RX rule....that's their choice...it's their business and maybe someone who is doing the enforcing doesn't know or doesn't care because the seller is under the radar. Whatever....doesn't matter.
CPAP.com has no control over what some other seller does or doesn't do. They got called on the carpet and have to follow the rules or risk losing the ability to sell.

If the OP has a problem with the RX rule....then the federal level is where that needs to be addressed because it is a federal law from the all powerful FDA. Bitching about it here is nothing new. It is what it is. Trust me...cpap.com would love to not have to enforce that law. All it has done is cost them money both in terms of lost sales and employee costs to enforce it.

Just be careful what you wish for....when/if we lose the RX requirement most people will also lose the insurance paying for it side of things. Insurance companies will use any excuse in the world to not have to pay for something.
The day that cpap machines and masks are OTC off WalMart shelves....insurance won't pay for it. And they won't be all that cheaper either and just because a doctor says you medically need something doesn't mean insurance will pay for it.
And there's a good chance your OTC options will be severely limited to the most basic choices in an effort to keep costs down.

Again....as I stated above....I think it is a stupid law myself but it is what it is and there's good and bad on both sides. Be careful what you wish for because when/if you get it....it might not be as nice of a result as you thought it would be for you or maybe someone else.

Case in point: as soon as antihistamines were allowed OTC, without Rx;
insurance quit covering them.
Also, Medicare usually sticks diabetics with the full cost of pen needles.
(Pun intended)
The most common brand name runs nearly $50 for a hundred.
25 days worth if you inject 4X a day--
Choosing only the battles I can survive--not expecting to "win".

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:07 pm

Case in point: as soon as antihistamines were allowed OTC, without Rx;
insurance quit covering them.
Also, Medicare usually sticks diabetics with the full cost of pen needles.
(Pun intended)
The most common brand name runs nearly $50 for a hundred.
25 days worth if you inject 4X a day--
Choosing only the battles I can survive--not expecting to "win".

As long as I am the only one using my sticker I never change them until the sticker breaks. Then I replace the sticker unit. got a box of them with my first kit, still have 45 of the 50, 15 years. Never get infected from my own germs.

Probably the result of taking 3,000 units of Vit C a day. Jim