EMF effects on sleep

milboltnut · Post by **milboltnut** » Tue May 05, 2020 4:29 pm

thoughts?

rcobourn · Post by **rcobourn** » Tue May 05, 2020 4:54 pm

milboltnut wrote:thoughts?

Physically impossible, with the possible exception of being directly under high voltage transmission lines. However, I know someone well who believes she is effected by all sorts of EMF. She won't have WiFi in her house, for example. Nevermind that her son enabled it the day after I installed her router and never told her, and of course she never noticed. She has sleep apnea, but won't have a device because of the radio in it.

Listen... if you believe EMF is causing your issues, go see a psychiatrist. Her problems began with the untimely passing of her husband leaving her sole parent to a young son. Now she positions her bed in the middle of her room to be away from the electrical outlets. She needs psychiatric help, but instead she goes to quacks like herbalists or homeopathy practitioners. Oddly, they haven't cured her in the 20+ years I've known her, but they've bilked her for so much that she's in substantial debt.

Don't get to this point. There is help for this.

milboltnut · Post by **milboltnut** » Tue May 05, 2020 5:09 pm

I'm not at that point considering my AHI is been at 4 all last week....

I just wanted to know if it effects sleep patterns.... is more like it. I'll change the subject title

rcobourn · Post by **rcobourn** » Tue May 05, 2020 5:14 pm

milboltnut wrote:I'm not at that point considering my AHI is been at 4 all last week....

I just wanted to know if it effects sleep patterns.... is more like it. I'll change the subject title

Just to be clear, unless you are close enough to a high voltage transmission line to actually be within it's magnetic field, EMF cannot be having any effect on your sleep patterns, at all. Anxiety from the current pandemic is another story. Interruptions to your normal routine, perhaps. An increase in alcohol or caffeine. Or a decrease. :,-)

milboltnut · Post by **milboltnut** » Tue May 05, 2020 5:25 pm

Interruptions to your normal routine

such as when you go to bed? Or would cause arousals or awakings?

rcobourn · Post by **rcobourn** » Tue May 05, 2020 5:40 pm

milboltnut wrote:
Interruptions to your normal routine
such as when you go to bed? Or would cause arousals or awakings?

Keeping in mind, I'm not a doctor, only married to one... For myself, the shelter in place has changed my day substantially... instead of seeing clients, and probably writing code and pounding caffeine to keep my brain in the zone for a few hours, I'm doing DIY projects around the house. Instead of mental labor, I'm doing physical labor. I don't think there has been a night in the last month where I've had a measurable AHI, which is unusual for me, although my apnea is generally well controlled. Your life has probably changed too, in one way or another. When you get up, what you do, what you are thinking or worrying about, when you go to bed. All of these things can have an effect on your apnea.

Trying to maintain good sleep hygiene is difficult in a time of stress and change. Having a consistent bed time and wake time could help. You may need adjustments to the therapy to accommodate the changes in your life. There is lots of information here and elsewhere on sleep hygiene, you'll have to find what works for you.

One thing I'm hearing is that people are sleeping more, because they don't have to get up for work. I'm getting up as early as ever, mostly because my brain insists on it, alarm or not. This is probably a big part of why I'm not having problems with my therapy.

Good luck. If you can use Oscar and post your results here, there are members that can probably address what's happening with your therapy, and suggest the kind of changes you might need.

DreamDiver · Post by **DreamDiver** » Tue May 05, 2020 5:57 pm

milboltnut wrote: ↑
Tue May 05, 2020 4:29 pm
thoughts?

BigClive on youtube does the best job of debunking this.
He's an electronics engineer.
Check him out.

In general, for most spectra that we are exposed to at the bottom of our atmosphere and magnetosphere, we're pretty darned safe.
But like with any high-energy light bulb, get too close, and you'll get burned.

Chris

milboltnut · Post by **milboltnut** » Tue May 05, 2020 6:04 pm

My routine is 9:30 - 10:00 to bed.

Been out of work since September of last year. Before that in and out of work for the last 20 years, and most of my life, matter of fact all of my life. Child abuse and most likely Apnea as a child too. Always sleep deprived, in the service too. Been on an APAP since mid march, and finally dropped AHI to 4. Last night it went up to 8 due to congestion. Had my humidifier at 3, and all last week until this morning jacked it up to 4. When I lay down I get congested. When I sit up I'm fine. My pressure chart has been stabilized up around 8-9 for the 6 hours I slept. I have been bumping up the minimum pressure .5 every four days. Started at 4 now up to 7, gonna bump up to 7.5 tonight after 4 days. From what it looks like pressure wise 9 is the magic number MAYBE? Take flonase twice a day during this pollen season.

Here's my OSCAR readout ... first ones night before last night (that spiked up to pressure of 12... ??) and the second is last night. As I said... I had nose congestion last night.

DreamDiver · Post by **DreamDiver** » Tue May 05, 2020 6:08 pm

I will say this though, it's been shown that blue light, especially artificial blue led lights, can affect your sleep cycle.
https://www.livescience.com/53874-blue-light-sleep.html

I noticed one night that my whole bedroom seems to have a constellation of techno indicator lights of all different colors. I taped them up so our bedroom is entirely dark.
Some suggest replacing those blue led night lights with diffuse dim red led night lights for the same reason.

Chris

milboltnut · Post by **milboltnut** » Tue May 05, 2020 6:12 pm

the bedroom has a street light in our yard... so I'm sure that has an effect. But I switched rooms tonight but there's another street light on that side too !

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Tue May 05, 2020 6:13 pm

Move north, above the Arctic circle.
When you see the aurora borealis, you will know you are safe.
Alternatively, get a DVD of the northern lights with new age music.
Play it all day, 24/7 until you are sick of it--you will be cured of your misapprehension.

milboltnut · Post by **milboltnut** » Tue May 05, 2020 6:16 pm

not saying I beleive it..... just wanted peoples thoughts if it is true or not. As far as cellular single... no but i have a friend who measured EMF with and without barriers, and there is a difference and he says he sleeps better.

DreamDiver · Post by **DreamDiver** » Tue May 05, 2020 6:19 pm

milboltnut wrote: ↑
Tue May 05, 2020 6:12 pm
the bedroom has a street light in our yard... so I'm sure that has an effect. But I switched rooms tonight but there's another street light on that side too !

Buy yourself some blackout curtains, maybe?

I know in Oxford, England they often use blackout curtains because the sun rises at unworldly hours of just before 5 am, but it's bright outside even before that.

Chris

milboltnut · Post by **milboltnut** » Tue May 05, 2020 6:22 pm

DreamDiver wrote: ↑
Tue May 05, 2020 6:19 pm

milboltnut wrote: ↑
Tue May 05, 2020 6:12 pm
the bedroom has a street light in our yard... so I'm sure that has an effect. But I switched rooms tonight but there's another street light on that side too !
Buy yourself some blackout curtains, maybe? My wife bought some and they're coming in soon... but I don't think they are dark enough

I know in Oxford, England they often use blackout curtains because the sun rises at unworldly hours of just before 5 am, but it's bright outside even before that.

Chris

rcobourn · Post by **rcobourn** » Tue May 05, 2020 6:32 pm

For congestion, I use Fexofenadine and Flonase in the morning, and Nasacort in the evening. Sometimes supplemented with saline spray, Xlear, Xlear Max, Neo- Synephrine Regular Strength, or Afrin 12 hour. Whatever it takes to get the job done.

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