My first posting of Sleepyhead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by Pugsy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:39 pm

KobeT wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:19 pm
I see the image just fine too but this was when she posted the original not this one the one that she says disappeared.
Ah that one.

She's using the forum attachment feature to host her images and it is possible that something happened when the image got uploaded and the location got messed up somehow in the forum storage.
One little boo boo in the address will cause the attachment to not load.

I don't know what might have happened the first time where she saw it and then it went away....I never saw it myself and there's no way that I can go back and see what may or may not have been the problem.

If we load the address and accidentally make one little minor change in that address....it won't load.
If we go in and edit a post that had an image in it and we accidentally do something that alters the address...like maybe even insert a space by accidentally having the mouse on the address and finger drags over the space bar.
I have problems with my laptop doing that when my hand or even clothing touches the touchpad on my lap top. I get some weird stuff happening that I don't realize is going on and I didn't mean to do it. I hate the touchpad for that reason and try to avoid its use whenever I can. My laptop won't let me just turn off the touchpad....I hate it. So I keep it covered as much as possible with a different separate keyboard and use a regular wireless mouse most of the time except when typing.

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Re: My first posting of Sleepyhead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by NorwichTerrier » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:47 am

Pugsy wrote: If you have times where you wake up or don't go to sleep for a while....reach over and do a quick turn off and back on of the machine.
This will clearly give us a break in therapy line that we can use to evaluate any cluster of events. We know we can mentally remove awake flagged stuff from the evaluation process. Only asleep flagged events matter.
I will try to do that, but it could be problematic since sometimes it feels like I have slept very little during the night. For example last night, it seemed that I spent most of the night being awake. Despite that, I had a 4.47 AHI, CA 2, OA 4 and Hypopneas 30. Are these large numbers of Hypopneas something I should be overly concerned with? I am thrilled to have had 2 nights this week with AHI readings under 5.

Unfortunately, I feel very tired and unrested this morning, despite the decent readings.

Thank you all for your support.

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Re: My first posting of Sleepyhead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by NorwichTerrier » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:53 am

Pugsy said: Can you hide the calendar (View/uncheck show calendar)....
And turn off the pie chart (Preferences/Appearance tab...remove check mark for show pie chart)
I understand the first part about unchecking the show calendar, but I could not find the Preferences/Appearance tab. Where might that be?

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Post by Pugsy » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:56 am

Upper left corner of SleepyHead where it says "file"...click on file and Preferences will show up in the menu choices...then you click on Preferences and appearance tab will show up on the end on the right.

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Re: My first posting of Sleepyhead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by NorwichTerrier » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:20 am

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After a great night on Thursday, last night proved to be the second worst night ever. I wake up every morning with a headache - not as bad as they are when I am not using the cpap, and sometimes they will disappear later, but normally I have to take an Excedrin Migraine.

Last night I think I went to sleep before the music ended, probably within thirty minutes. I woke up once around 3 something to use the bathroom, and again, I was awake around 7 a.m., although I didn't turn the machine off and back on, as I thought I would get back to sleep. I didn't really - just sort of a twilight stage.

I used my Flovent asthma spray before bed. I can't think of any other information that might be helpful.

Do you think my DreamStation APAP machine is the right one for me - or should I possibly be on a bi-pap machine? I think there is a 30-day window where a change could be made if necessary, and that window closes on the 13th or 14th of this month.

Are there other charts that would be more appropriate than these? I thought I had the event chart included, but it didn't seem to show up.

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Re: My first posting of Sleepyhead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by Pugsy » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:01 am

Review this thread for how we like to see the detailed reports...and which graphs are helpful. The snore graph is useless (snores are shown on the events graph anyway)....and the Respiration Rate graph is just useless period.
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I am sorry but without seeing the Events graph and the stuff on the left side I can't make much sense of the graphs above.

Would a bilevel machine help? I don't know. I don't know what your problem is.

I would like to see you at least try the ResMed AirSense 10 AutoSet though....it can be tweaked to function like a limited bilevel.

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Re: My first posting of Sleepyhead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by NorwichTerrier » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:20 am

Pugsy wrote: I am sorry but without seeing the Events graph and the stuff on the left side I can't make much sense of the graphs above.
My bad - I thought you wanted the info on the left side taken out. Also, I told my husband to include the events "graph," but somehow it didn't get posted. When he returns from his program, I'll have him re-do it.

Thank you for your assistance.

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Re: My first posting of Sleepyhead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by NorwichTerrier » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:48 am

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My husband redid the Sleepyhead Data from Friday night, but still included the leak and snore data, for some reason, not sure why.

I had another 10 last night, and it was the worst night ever for sleeping. I felt as if I had not slept at all, or at least no more than fifteen or twenty minutes, if that. By the time four hours had elapsed, I felt like I was suffocating, and as a result, I turned off the machine. I didn't feel well when I went to bed; I had an upset stomach, and I got up once during that four-hour period. I was stressed and unable to get to sleep - not sure why, but perhaps not feeling well had something to do with it. I hope last night was just a fluke because it truly was not a pleasant night.

I am taking some sleeping pill aids tonight.
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Re: My first posting of Sleepyhead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by Pugsy » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:53 am

You need more minimum pressure. Would it qualify for moving to bilevel? I don't know because we don't know what might happen to your comfort levels and sleep quality with the pressure that you are going to need.

I am thinking that things would clean up significantly with minimum of around 9 maybe.

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Re: My first posting of Sleepyhead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by NorwichTerrier » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:58 am

Pugsy wrote:
I am thinking that things would clean up significantly with minimum of around 9 maybe.
At this point, it is certainly worth a try. What effect would such a change have on my exhalation, which I sometimes find a bit difficult? I have no trouble breathing in, but breathing out is something else for me - possibly because during waking hours I am such a shallow breather. Any thoughts?

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Post by Pugsy » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:07 am

Exhaling against 9 is going to be a bit more difficult than exhaling against 7.
If it is too big of a jump and simply not comfortable...
What I would do if it were me is work up slowly to 9 using 0.5 cm increases over 3 to 5 nights so that it takes 2 to 3 weeks to get up to 9.

If you simply can't handle exhaling against the pressure you end up needing....then we talk bilevel because bilevels offer additional exhale relief that you simply can't get with the DreamStation APAP no matter which Flex setting you are using.

Some people can handle exhaling against just about any pressure no matter how high and some people just can't. It's just another one of those YMMV things. What I (or someone else) can do at whatever pressure doesn't really mean much because it doesn't mean you can do the same thing.

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Re: My first posting of Sleepyhead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by NorwichTerrier » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:00 pm

Pugsy stated: If you simply can't handle exhaling against the pressure you end up needing....then we talk bilevel because bilevels offer additional exhale relief that you simply can't get with the DreamStation APAP no matter which Flex setting you are using.
The thing is, and I hesitated to mention it before, as you might have said "go straight to the emergency room" but after a short while on the CPAP I have a minor pain or weakness (like being overstressed) on my left side. I can't say it is a heart pain or a lung pain, but it isn't severe, albeit noticeable. The length of time I feel it can vary. Sometimes it doesn't happen until an hour or so into the therapy. I have even experienced it sleeping without the CPAP, but it is more noticeable and seems to come on when the difficulty exhaling manifests. Have you ever heard of anything like this? It isn't really all that much of a worry, but I am in the beginning stages of heart disease, so it could have something to do with that.

I will try your suggestion and increase pressure gradually until I hit a 9.

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Re: My first posting of Sleepyhead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by NorwichTerrier » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:09 am

Could you please explain the Sleepyhead session information, which I just noticed this morning. I did not get up at all during the night, yet there are two sessions listed, one 4 hours and 28 minutes, ending at 05:15:00, and another starting at 05:15:00 for 3 hours and 37 minutes. I never turned the machine off during the night, either. Thanks for whatever information you can give as to the reason for breaking this up into two sessions. Thank you.

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Post by Pugsy » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:27 am

Respironics machines seem to have a little bug in the machine software where it says the machine was turned off and back on again creating a new session and usually the new session starts at the same time the other ended.
I don't know how critical this bug is but I have seen it be just one or 2 sessions created by the machine from the bug and I have seen machines create 30 sessions within a 7 hour time frame.

So...if we can't blame it on a brown out power situation then the only thing left is that bug in the software.
Just keep an eye on it and if it starts doing it very often call up your machine supplier and tell them it is acting weird.

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