My first posting of Sleepyhead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by NorwichTerrier » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:50 am

palerider stated: Might have hit preview by accident instead of submit, then closed the window.
I'm pretty sure we did both, and I swear I saw it on the regular forum page. When it disappeared, I thought perhaps my husband had made some kind of serious mistake and that was why it was pulled. Will try again.

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by NorwichTerrier » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:56 am

palerider stated: Might have hit preview by accident instead of submit, then closed the window.
I just tried to reply again. I hit preview first just to see what that looked like, and then immediately hit submit, and my reply never posted to the forum. What I sent yesterday, I am sure did make it, and then disappeared afterward. Not sure what I was doing incorrectly. Anyway, I will have my husband try again. I thought maybe he did something wrong and that was why it was taken down.

After changing the settings to a 5 on the ramp time and returning the maximum to 20 on therapy, my score last night was, for me, pretty awesome. It was 3.6 AHI, CA 7, OA 5 (wow), and Hypopneas 15, which is the lowest I think I have ever had. Hope this is starting a new trend.

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by Pugsy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:08 am

Nothing was pulled from the forum for any reason on the moderator side of things.
There is a log of all edits, deletions, removals or whatever that get done to the forum by the moderators or what forum members do to their own posts.

So we can see who did what...and the only person logged as doing anything to your posts is you.
Now what might have happened is you did click on submit and someone had posted something and you go got a notice that so and so had said something since you started composing...and you get a choice to edit your current comments or click submit again. If you didn't click on submit again and closed the window the post won't stick. I have had this happen often and sometimes I see the notice 2 or 3 times before it finally goes to the forum page. And sometimes I miss the notice and don't click submit again the second or 3rd time and the post goes off into never neverland.

Now the forum software isn't perfect but most of the time if you wait until you see your post...that last notice that your post was added...the post sticks. After that...any changes/deletions have to be done by either you or the moderator and will show up in the log.
I am thinking you probably missed the notice about so and so posting something and offering you the chance to edit whatever you were doing and you didn't and if you were in the preview menu it would appear to be correct but it wasn't fully loaded into the forum software.

Here's all the stuff yesterday about your posts...and you did all of it. No logs about me or anyone else with moderator status doing anything to your posts. The person doing the action is listed to the left of the IP address.
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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by NorwichTerrier » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:30 am

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This finally came through, and I had hubby post this because it was my worst night ever. Last night was so much better, but thought I should share this to see if anything might be standing out in what is going on with me. Thank you for looking at it.

And, I just noticed that in my title of this post, I said Sleephead instead of Sleepyhead. Is there any way I can correct it?

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by Pugsy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:38 am

Can you hide the calendar (View/uncheck show calendar)....
And turn off the pie chart (Preferences/Appearance tab...remove check mark for show pie chart)

This allows potentially more useful information in the statistics column to move up into the viewing area.

As far as Monday night....any chance you were awake at all when those clusters happened? Especially the first 2 clusters????

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by Pugsy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:39 am

No need to redo this latest image. I can see well enough.
Just mentioning tweaks for future images.

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by Dog Slobber » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:52 am

Sometimes after we hit submit, and if someone else has submitted a post after we started our reply, but before we hit submit, our post is not submitted.

Instead we get a message informing us that one or new posts have been posted. We then need to hit submit again. It's easy to close the browser or hit back instead of hitting submit again.

Not sure how or if that shows up in the logs.
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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by Pugsy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:15 am

Dog Slobber wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:52 am
Sometimes after we hit submit, and if someone else has submitted a post after we started our reply, but before we hit submit, our post is not submitted.

Instead we get a message informing us that one or new posts have been posted. We then need to hit submit again. It's easy to close the browser or hit back instead of hitting submit again.

Not sure how or if that shows up in the logs.
That never shows up in the logs for anyone. Just too many of those and they don't mean much (except we need to pay attention and watch for the final product notice of submission) and nothing I can do about it if someone doesn't see it and click submit again.

Interesting that while I was composing what I first wrote above I got the notice that so and so has posted something...I didn't think to grab a screen shot of that message but it is relatively small line and if not much was said it is easy to miss.
So I had to click on submit twice.

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by NorwichTerrier » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:21 am

Pugsy wrote:
As far as Monday night....any chance you were awake at all when those clusters happened? Especially the first 2 clusters????
If it was the during the first hour, I was definitely awake, as I had some music going for about 40 minutes, and I still had not gone to sleep. A short while later after the music stopped, I looked at the clock, and it was more than an hour since I started my therapy. I believe I even took some sleeping aids that night, which didn't work very well. It was my first night again with the new heated tubing that arrived earlier in the day from Rotech. It seemed very warm, and I am sure that had an impact on my inability to sleep, in addition to normal problems falling asleep.

The second set of clusters might have occurred around the time I got up to use the bathroom, and again, I had quite a lot of trouble getting back to sleep.

And, Pugsy, all those attempts by me at deleting posts were those that didn't come through with the Sleepyhead chart, although my husband said it showed up in the preview. I didn't want a lot of unuseful, extraneous garbage on the forum, which was why I tried to delete those failed attempts.

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by Pugsy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:35 am

Some of the ugly on your Monday report is going to be blamed on awake breathing...so we have to mentally toss that stuff out the window.

I am more concerned about the middle of the night cluster than the first 2 clusters (which I figured were awake events and not real) the big cluster at around 3 AM and where the pressure went up significantly.
Unless you were awake at that time also...that one is the one that really bugs me and points for the need of a higher minimum pressure.

If you have times where you wake up or don't go to sleep for a while....reach over and do a quick turn off and back on of the machine.
This will clearly give us a break in therapy line that we can use to evaluate any cluster of events. We know we can mentally remove awake flagged stuff from the evaluation process. Only asleep flagged events matter.
The machine doesn't know if you are asleep or not...it only measures air flow and it can and will mistake irregular awake breathing as some sort of apnea event...really messes up the reports and makes it hard to know if you need more pressure or just more sleep. :lol:

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by zonker » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:38 am

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And, I just noticed that in my title of this post, I said Sleephead instead of Sleepyhead. Is there any way I can correct it?
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yes. you'll see in the text area of your post a pencil symbol. click on that and you can edit your post or title.
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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by Pugsy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:42 am

You can edit anything....that little pencil thing on the forum editor.
Got back to the first post and click on the pencil thing and you can edit the Main topic/subject line.
If you can't get it done...I can fix it for you if you wish.

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by KobeT » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:12 pm

To add a little more mystery to the missing post. I did see the post that the OP posted about this chart but the only thing it said was Monday.png and no image.

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by Pugsy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:16 pm

KobeT wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:12 pm
To add a little more mystery to the missing post. I did see the post that the OP posted about this chart but the only thing it said was Monday.png and no image.
I see the image just fine. Maybe slow to load??? Sometimes the forum software gets lazy and images are slow to load.
About 10 posts above this one of mine.

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Re: My first posting of Sleephead Data - Any and All Advice Appreciated

Post by KobeT » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:19 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:16 pm
KobeT wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:12 pm
To add a little more mystery to the missing post. I did see the post that the OP posted about this chart but the only thing it said was Monday.png and no image.
I see the image just fine. Maybe slow to load??? Sometimes the forum software gets lazy and images are slow to load.
About 10 posts above this one of mine.
I see the image just fine too but this was when she posted the original not this one the one that she says disappeared.