Does my Respironics catch OA and H?

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Re: Does my Respironics catch OA and H?

Post by SleepySwiss » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:33 pm

palerider wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:03 pm

I think you're going to need more pressure, If 7 is bothering you, then wait a few more days, 7 isn't bothering you, then bump it up to 8 and let's see if we can get rid of some of those hypopneas.
7 is really not bothering me at all so I'll try that tonight, thanks for the suggestion!

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Re: Does my Respironics catch OA and H?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:48 pm

SleepySwiss wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:31 pm
In fact today I do have a headache which is a bit unusual, but does happen.
I can't know what caused your headache. However, some new users rest their head in inappropriate positions due to concern over the mask or hose. Incorrect head/neck position can cause a headache.

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Re: Does my Respironics catch OA and H?

Post by D.H. » Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:12 pm

To the OP. THe machine shown in your profile is not the one I see on your Sleepyhead postings. Please correct your profile.

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Re: Does my Respironics catch OA and H?

Post by zonker » Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:57 pm

SleepySwiss wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:31 pm
zonker wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:51 am

how do you feel when you wake up? are you feeling better with the minimum raised?
I am sleeping fine with the pressure raised, but not feeling any better in the morning. In fact today I do have a headache which is a bit unusual, but does happen.
okay. keep at it. maybe raising the pressure will eliminate the headache. or it could be positional as chicago granny says.

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Re: Does my Respironics catch OA and H?

Post by SleepySwiss » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:55 am

Not that great a night last night at 8. Waking up feeling almost disoriented. I have had worse AHIs in January, but did not feel that strange when I woke up. I note that the machine was more responsive though. I am considering going back down to 7 and try that for a few more nights before doing 8 again?
I am not that concerned about the headache. I appreciate the concern of ChicagoLady and it certainly could be head position. But I have been at this for over two years and have a great pillow.
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Re: Does my Respironics catch OA and H?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:53 pm

SleepySwiss wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:55 am
SleepySwiss
Click on the Events tab and check how long some of the events are.

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Your pressure requirements seem to be low. Given the low pressures, do you really need expiratory pressure relief? Have you tried turning it off?

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1. This is not studied well.
2. There are no studies on the effectiveness.
3. The side effects are not known, but some herbalists warn of the potential for serious side effects.
4. The manufacturing processes are not well controlled. There are significant batch-to-batch variations in active ingredients. Even within a batch, variances from tablet-to-tablet occur.
5. Which of your health conditions do you think it is improving?

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Re: Does my Respironics catch OA and H?

Post by SleepySwiss » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:14 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:53 pm
SleepySwiss wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:55 am
SleepySwiss
Click on the Events tab and check how long some of the events are.

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Your pressure requirements seem to be low. Given the low pressures, do you really need expiratory pressure relief? Have you tried turning it off?

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Ashwaganda
1. This is not studied well.
2. There are no studies on the effectiveness.
3. The side effects are not known, but some herbalists warn of the potential for serious side effects.
4. The manufacturing processes are not well controlled. There are significant batch-to-batch variations in active ingredients. Even within a batch, variances from tablet-to-tablet occur.
5. Which of your health conditions do you think it is improving?

-ChicagoLassie
The events (H and OA) are from 12-57s, most of them 20-30s, the PB around 4mins.

As for Ashwaganda, I fully agree, ChicagoLassie! Even with AHI around 2, I feel not well rested even after 10hours of sleep. Last fall, I googled and came across many posts on staying asleep. That is not my main problem. I then came across a few posts that claimed Ashwaganda made them feel more alert when waking up. Naturally, I had to try it. All I can say is that when I started taking it my AHI improved by ~1.5units in a day or two and I am feeling better than when I forget taking it. I know it could be placebo, but I don't see how that could work while I am asleep - but it could. It could be complete hogwash. There are studies in biological systems on fractions of extract, some are rather well done, some are quite bad. What extract is chosen matters for the active ingredients. As with all supplements, there is absolutely no guarantee that anything on the label is contained in the tablet, capsule, powder. So it could be complete hogwash. And agreed that there are no clinical studies (and there likely will be none). All of this is true for other herbal extracts, GABA supplements etc.
With all these caveats, and admitting that it might be placebo and/or hogwash, I think my AHI is lower and I do feel more alert. Says the guy who woke up this morning feeling shaky and like he was hit by a truck....

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Re: Does my Respironics catch OA and H?

Post by SleepySwiss » Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:56 am

I came down with a really bad case of flu, 3 days at >100F and while I used the machine I don't want to interpret any of the numbers. I'll play a bit more with base pressure, but I agree with Palerider that the Dreamstation reacts about as quickly as a ton of lead. I'll discuss switching to resmed which seems much more responsive.

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Re: Does my Respironics catch OA and H?

Post by ajack » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:25 am

I think with your current machine you are going to need more than 8 on the chart you posted, 9 or 10 seems likely, 11 is a possibility for a one night test. I think swapping to a Resmed will give more movement of the pressure range in auto, but may work in the higher range anyway. It would depend on cost, whether I handed back the dreamstation or waited till you were due for a new machine. Although dumb as a brick, I can see no reason why the dreamstation can't be adjusted to clear your obstructive OA/H

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Re: Does my Respironics catch OA and H?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:37 am

SleepySwiss wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:56 am
I came down with a really bad case of flu, 3 days at >100F and while I used the machine I don't want to interpret any of the numbers.
So sorry. The flu can screw up everything.
SleepySwiss wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:56 am
I'll discuss switching to resmed which seems much more responsive.
Are you in U.S.? What is your insurance situation? In the U.S., insurance companies typically rent the machine in an initial period to see if the patient will stick with CPAP. During this rental period, it's easier to switch to a different machine.