Sleepyhead shutting down?

I am here for the CPAPTalk community, not Mark. I am trying to support him as a person as he tries& cope but that is it.

If if would help people here I could try to post instructions on how to build SleepyHead 1.1 . Graphically, I think it is superior to 1.0 but has many of the same database bugs.

1.0 will not run on some newer OS versions. 1.1 will run for those people. I suspect all 1.0 builds are 32-bit. If that is correct. the next version of MacOS will not run 1.0

Right now I am hesitant to post working installs of 1.1 for CPAPTalk until Mark settles down a bit. I am by no means a coder but I will help what little I am able.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:15 am

If if would help people here I could try to post instructions on how to build SleepyHead 1.1 .

Sounds like a good idea.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:15 am

I am here for the CPAPTalk community, not Mark. I am trying to support him as a person as he tries& cope but that is it.
...
Right now I am hesitant to post working installs of 1.1 for CPAPTalk until Mark settles down a bit.

Mark has shown how much he cares about cpap users around the world with his temper tantrum and deciding to take his toys and go sulk.

If, as you said, you're here for cpaptalk, for the people that need help...

Just be aware, that when he gets into his paranoid cycle, if you're not agreeing with him, you're his enemy.

CPAPjunkie wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:11 am

Just got this program yesterday.... now tainted by drama.. removed

I do appreciate the level of effort put into it.... I don’t appreciate the drama..

it's a premier piece of software used by many here on the forum. it's how pugsy,palerider and countless others can give you advice on how to optimize your therapy.

please don't cut off your nose to spite jedimark. not using the software doesn't affect him in the slightest. but not using it could affect YOU.

just sayin'.

palerider wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:50 am

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:15 am

If if would help people here I could try to post instructions on how to build SleepyHead 1.1 .

Sounds like a good idea.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:15 am

I am here for the CPAPTalk community, not Mark. I am trying to support him as a person as he tries& cope but that is it.
...
Right now I am hesitant to post working installs of 1.1 for CPAPTalk until Mark settles down a bit.

Mark has shown how much he cares about cpap users around the world with his temper tantrum and deciding to take his toys and go sulk.

If, as you said, you're here for cpaptalk, for the people that need help...

Just be aware, that when he gets into his paranoid cycle, if you're not agreeing with him, you're his enemy.

I suspect the majority of people here though just need to download & use it.

Mark has already thanked be for keeping SleepyHead available here independent of his servers.
I know that, as a community we do not know how Mark will react next but he considers this a friendly place. He has issues with particular personalities here but He fully realizes SleepyHead was developed with help from CPAPTalk.

Where possible we need to continue to be his "safe haven". Abuse of other members should not be tolerated, though IMO. I do not run things here though.

I am updating my development environment while I figure out how to contribute further I believe you are a Linux user, PR. What distro & version?

Sticking toe in very carefully... I am wondering who this "just visiting" guy is. Jedi wrote the program, Pale Rider helps us figure out what it means. Just visiting says he has a working bug free version for himsef but he isn't sharing... why does he get to rip on those that are helping us ?

Ducking back under shields.

Cynmatthes wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:12 am

Sticking toe in very carefully... I am wondering who this "just visiting" guy is. Jedi wrote the program, Pale Rider helps us figure out what it means. Just visiting says he has a working bug free version for himsef but he isn't sharing... why does he get to rip on those that are helping us ?

Ducking back under shields.

There are others that claim to have their own versions too. jas_williams here says he foxed one bug.
I am currently still using 1.0 but tried helping out with 1.1 & later what has now moved to AB. We were told then it had Mark's blessing when it did not. ( I saw the "proof" & reached different conclusions.)

We will keep on until Mark chooses he has some software to contribute back. He may not choose to do that but we will be grateful for what he has given us.

jedimark wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:27 am

Palerider, how ENTITLED can you get?

You're seriously going to tell a free software volunteer how they should have devoted even a single millisecond of their volunteered time?

The only entitled whiner here, is staring you back in the mirror.
You're a control freak who has to have everything his way, or nothing at all, as witnessed by your childish temper tantrum when your helpers *TALKED ABOUT* doing something on their own.

jedimark wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:27 am

Your over-entitlement was the very reason I was forced to kick you out of SleepyHead's dev circle all those years ago: You, with your narcissistic soul-draining attitude nearly killed the project back then, and now, you, you ever-leaking pustule of vitriolic indecency, played a big part in my final decision to put an end to this project... I should thank you though, I'm thoroughly done dealing with defective neanderthals like you, and you were that necessary proverbial "straw" that "broke the camel's back".

Yup, "no mark, they're not all out to get you, no mark, just because they want to know "when it'll be ready" does not mean they're trying to destroy you, no mark, you don't have to stop work just because someone has a suggestion"
FOR WEEKS I was saying that, as you were spiraling into another of your paranoid episodes,...

Then I made the fatal mistake of saying "You might want to talk to Pugsy and RobySue about things that confuse new users" and BAM, I was out.

I like how your deranged imagination has now re-written things so that *I* am the villain in this *LATEST* episode , even though you'd already melted down before I even knew about it.

You're a sick, sick person, and you desperately need professional help.

*ENTITLED???*... nobody is more entitled than you, "CRY! WHINE! STOMP! I'M GOING TO QUIT AND SCREW THE WORLD, SOMEONE DISAGREED WITH ME!"

jedimark wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:27 am

[EDIT: Whoops, Wrong bug... Still a poor example, it was also a QT REGRESSION that broke that one too, it was Fixed by a recent QT update]

I guess THAT was my fault as well, eh?

jedimark wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:27 am

I don't recall forcing anyone to use SleepyHead. I just tried to do my absolute best given my circumstances and limited resources.. I don't recall having met any other unpaid volunteer who's had so much DEMANDED from them on top of all the work they did for free already.

"unpaid volunteer'... in addition to the *thousands" of USD that SuperSleeper mentioned that Apneaboard raised for you.... and the flow of people "donating" to your unpaid volunteerness... uh huh. At least try and keep your "facts" straight.

jedimark wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:27 am

I hadn't gone anywhere... I was ALWAYS contactable... I made myself pretty darn CLEAR to the Discord team that the next phase required a good 3 MONTHS OF FULL POWER TOTALLY NON-DISTRACTED CRUNCH EFFORT (ie. 19 hour days with near polyphasic sleep away from my family, like I had done already for most of the 4 PREVIOUS MONTHS minus the lack of distractions) to complete the next phase, before I realized that I was being pressured by a couple with entitled arrogant attitudes MUCH like yours in the group to do something I should not have had to rush. My family comes first! None of that priority shifting was kept a secret, I let Arie know and he was tasked with communicating that message, and for flips sake, even VICE motherboard reported on it.

If the "team" REALLY wanted to speed it up they could have organised a kickstarter/fundraiser or something to actually help... my code's free, but my time sure is NOT.

Your *TEAM* didn't ask diddly squat of you.
I said *ONE THING* in that group, after you'd already had your psychotic event. You can't blame this meltdown on me, much as you'd like to.

jedimark wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:27 am

In July/August after HAVING ALREADY PUT OVER ONE WORK YEAR WORTH OF LABOUR INTO SLEEPYHEAD ALREADY IN 2018, I pulled the brakes on, and ramped up work on COMMERCIAL projects so I could FUND future SleepyHead development without my wife having to pay for the vast majority of my project time. From that moment forward I CHOSE to work NORMAL speed on SleepyHead like any other FOSS developer, just like it should have been all along (SHOCK HORROR!), and then I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED taking December/January OFF, the same as I always do when my daughter has school holidays and my house is too noisy to work.. It's my family time, and nobody has a right to interfere with that.

Again, NOBODY asked a DAMNED THING of you. I read the logs, they were just going to fix up some of the bugs YOU LEFT, and say "Here, here's something people can use until the next version comes out".

Nobody asked anything of you! But your control freak nature couldn't let something ELSE happen while you were off doing your thing.

jedimark wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:27 am

I may not have been the world's fastest programmer, and I'm definitely nowhere near the best, but I've not seen all that many independent (SELF FUNDED) developer backed FOSS full complex GUI application projects see a release all that much more often than SleepyHead was, so shut the hell up, you ignorant deluded ass.

I've worked with many a great programmer, and I've worked with some great programmers that had serious prima donna complexes... you've got the prima donna thing down pat, but, I will agree with you on one thing, you're not fast, and you're not great, fact is, you're barely adequate.

jedimark wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:27 am

You can't impregnate 9 women to make a baby in 1 month... same goes for throwing more people at colossal task only SleepyHead's author who knew the codebase inside out could complete.

Full of yourself, much? Of course nobody can help, since you won't let them.

jedimark wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:27 am

The was a Hostile Takeover by ApneaBoard, the exact same crap happened in Feb/March last year too, lead by exactly the people. I had to deal with exactly the same crap then, by entitled jerks who think I owed them something... and back then NONE of us could work on codebase until I found to move it forward again. This time around they only gained traction because they got to Arie Klerk, who was desperate to push me away from my decision to move Sleepyhead ahead to where it needed to go.

Now go play with your crappy alarm clocks and kindly find a corner to die in!

Wait, who's the villain here? me or apneaboard? Or are we in cahoots?

I'd like to know more about your last meltdown with Apneaboard, since they and I historically don't get along, I knew nothing about it until SuperSleeper said something... what'd you do to piss them off... historically, your biggest fans.

You're completely lost touch with reality... of course, that's an ongoing thing with you, as witnessed by the months and years you just hide away from the outside world.

justvisiting wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:05 am

seriously? Doxing now?

You might want to edit your last tirade before a real shitstrom brakes loose. Even your last "supporter" should now see your real 'motivations' behind all this.

Oh? what did psychoboy do?

Has he forgotten that I've got his home address on file?

I mean, I *did* have a t-shirt custom made for him, which he (allegedly) proudly wore and sent me a picture of him wearing...

I thought about telling the world where to send their junk mail when he turned on me years ago, but realized that was the wrong thing to do.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:00 am

palerider wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:50 am

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:15 am

If if would help people here I could try to post instructions on how to build SleepyHead 1.1 .

Sounds like a good idea.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:15 am

I am here for the CPAPTalk community, not Mark. I am trying to support him as a person as he tries& cope but that is it.
...
Right now I am hesitant to post working installs of 1.1 for CPAPTalk until Mark settles down a bit.

Mark has shown how much he cares about cpap users around the world with his temper tantrum and deciding to take his toys and go sulk.

If, as you said, you're here for cpaptalk, for the people that need help...

Just be aware, that when he gets into his paranoid cycle, if you're not agreeing with him, you're his enemy.

I suspect the majority of people here though just need to download & use it.

Mark has already thanked be for keeping SleepyHead available here independent of his servers.
I know that, as a community we do not know how Mark will react next but he considers this a friendly place. He has issues with particular personalities here but He fully realizes SleepyHead was developed with help from CPAPTalk.

Where possible we need to continue to be his "safe haven". Abuse of other members should not be tolerated, though IMO. I do not run things here though.

I am updating my development environment while I figure out how to contribute further I believe you are a Linux user, PR. What distro & version?

Ubuntu, (well, xubuntu, but that doesn't matter) 18.04 . I'll get around to updating to 18.10 at some point, I've just been lazy

The static 1.1 from apneaboard runs, I got that last night while Greyghost4 was looking at it.

I would appreciate some help getting the development environment running again, Mark and PR helped me get it going several years ago with version 1. I just installed 1.1 binary last night.
I would like to take a look at the source
I am using Mint 19.1 XFCE (xbuntu) .

There were a couple on Linux bugs squashed by Mark since that test build.

Due to my research lately, I have been building Qt from scratch (2+ hour compile) but I know the Qt version in Ubuntu 18.04 (Qt 5.9.5) is new enough to build 1.1 Packagers split Qt into many parts so I need to research what is needed. I know the Qt official install is poor at determining what other packages are needed.

Let me look further. My reason for building from source turned into a dead end.

Mark still has the 1.1 testing static builds here. https://sleepyhead.jedimark.net/testing/1.1.0/

I removed them from my site to conserve space. I have stored copies though.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:25 pm

There were a couple on Linux bugs squashed by Mark since that test build.

Due to my research lately, I have been building Qt from scratch (2+ hour compile) but I know the Qt version in Ubuntu 18.04 (Qt 5.9.5) is new enough to build 1.1 Packagers split Qt into many parts so I need to research what is needed. I know the Qt official install is poor at determining what other packages are needed.

Let me look further. My reason for building from source turned into a dead end.

It's always been a compile, fail to link, find a library, compile, fail to link, find another library, compile, fail, fine YET ANOTHER LIBRARY kind of task. Not having a list of prereqs was always a pain.

palerider wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:29 pm

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:25 pm

There were a couple on Linux bugs squashed by Mark since that test build.

Due to my research lately, I have been building Qt from scratch (2+ hour compile) but I know the Qt version in Ubuntu 18.04 (Qt 5.9.5) is new enough to build 1.1 Packagers split Qt into many parts so I need to research what is needed. I know the Qt official install is poor at determining what other packages are needed.

Let me look further. My reason for building from source turned into a dead end.

It's always been a compile, fail to link, find a library, compile, fail to link, find another library, compile, fail, fine YET ANOTHER LIBRARY kind of task. Not having a list of prereqs was always a pain.

Here is what I have done starting with Ubuntu 16.04 but building Qt is ugly.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ztn5g1qb89ff6 ... .docx?dl=1

palerider wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:43 am

jedimark wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:27 am

Your over-entitlement was the very reason I was forced to kick you out of SleepyHead's dev circle all those years ago: You, with your narcissistic soul-draining attitude nearly killed the project back then, and now, you, you ever-leaking pustule of vitriolic indecency, played a big part in my final decision to put an end to this project... I should thank you though, I'm thoroughly done dealing with defective neanderthals like you, and you were that necessary proverbial "straw" that "broke the camel's back".

Yup, "no mark, they're not all out to get you, no mark, just because they want to know "when it'll be ready" does not mean they're trying to destroy you, no mark, you don't have to stop work just because someone has a suggestion"
FOR WEEKS I was saying that, as you were spiraling into another of your paranoid episodes,...

Then I made the fatal mistake of saying "You might want to talk to Pugsy and RobySue about things that confuse new users" and BAM, I was out.

Some other thoughts for he popcorn munching crowd watching this 'show'...

Someone had to think of the *users* (you, the people that are trying to make their therapy work...)

Ironically, Mark Watkins told me that he rarely ever bothered to look at *his own data* with *his own program*... Though he DID ship me the contents of the SD card a few times, when I could get him to do so. He had poorly controlled sleep apnea, was bouncing from donated ("Don't tell anybody, but xxxx sent me this one") machine to machine, and not really doing anything to try and make things work.

So, he didn't have to deal with problems that it created for newbies, (or experienced people).

And YES, I tried to advocate for the users, for newbies, for people that were confused by his random mishmash of using Resmed terms on Respironics data, or Respironics terms on Resmed data... and many other issues, things that I saw people here and elsewhere *CONFUSED* about.

Where's the right place to fix that? Telling EVERYBODY with a Philips Respironics machine, OVER AND OVER that the 24lpm leak thing is a Resmed thing and they don't need to worry about it? or making a pretty quick change in the program *so the confusion just never happens?

Hell yes, I *urged* changes like that.

Of course, in a megalomaniacs's world, that's "over-entitlement".

Mark never cared about whether he'd send some newbie spiraling into a panic, if he had, he'd never have put up a 'playing doctor' panel that said "YOUR AHI IS TERRIBLE, RUN TO YOUR DOCTOR!!" "YOUR LEAKS ARE OUT OF CONTROL!" (no, on a Respironics they were fine). etc.

Someone had to say "hey, how about not scaring people by saying xxxx" but, that's over-entitlement, in his world.

Literally the last thing before he was "forced to kick you out of the sleephead-dev circle' was my saying "Why don't you talk to Pugsy and Robysue about the things that repeatedly confuse new users".

THAT was the straw that broke the camel's back...

My advocating for YOU, the people that use sleepyhead. I'm not ashamed, I'm not repentant, and I'd do it again if I had the opportunity.