A little disturbed!

oops.. sorry... I was diagnosed in November and did my weak "experiement in January....

Having been a registered member in here for awhile and also an admin for another chatroom(talkrooms.com) i will say that this for is pretty tame when it racistcomes to abuse. I ve banned many a person for foul language, racial remarks, etc. But never for an opinion I disliked. Even if their tone wasn t the best. As I tell the talkroom, put the morons on ignore. It would be pretty boring if this turned into a lovefest. Er, maybe not tho

loonlvr wrote:Having been a registered member in here for awhile and also an admin for another chatroom(talkrooms.com) i will say that this for is pretty tame when it racistcomes to abuse. I ve banned many a person for foul language, racial remarks, etc. But never for an opinion I disliked. Even if their tone wasn t the best. As I tell the talkroom, put the morons on ignore. It would be pretty boring if this turned into a lovefest. Er, maybe not tho

Interesting to hear your experience as an admin for another chatroom. It's interesting to hear your side of it. The old childhood phrase that starts, "Sticks and stones can break my bones but words ...." is wrong. Names and words CAN hurt. They can incite, they can be a call to action, they can bring pain. So you were right to ban for foul language, racial remarks, etc., as you said. That you would not ban opinions is most interesting. Thanks for relaying this.

Actually you were, and we DID take offense

Newsflash: Speak for yourself. You have no business saying "we" took offense. I did not take offense and, based on posts, some other regular users of this forum did not take offense either.

I hope no one thinks I think ALL guests are vitriolic hatred spewers. Just the ones who don't like me

Liam, would you PLEASE get over yourself. This is NOT about whether or not someone likes you. It is about community/support/information for ALL of us. Knock it off with the 'I'm personally offended' crap and the 'tell me how wonderful and needed I am' (read: poor self-esteem and fragile ego) stuff.

Or maybe I'm just trying to justify my own existance on this board

Nail hit squarely on the head. Liam, make your contributions of info and humor; many readers clearly appreciate both. Just keep your ego in check and knock it off with the snarly attitude toward those who would dare to disagree with you.

It's when it reaches the level of trying to affect the direction of the board that it's a problem.

Liam, give your head a shake! Who do you think you are? This forum will take whatever direction the users of the forum send it in. That includes ALL the users, not just Liam.

Totally Different Guest wrote:

Actually you were, and we DID take offense

Newsflash: Speak for yourself. You have no business saying "we" took offense. I did not take offense and, based on posts, some other regular users of this forum did not take offense either.

I hope no one thinks I think ALL guests are vitriolic hatred spewers. Just the ones who don't like me

Liam, would you PLEASE get over yourself. This is NOT about whether or not someone likes you. It is about community/support/information for ALL of us. Knock it off with the 'I'm personally offended' crap and the 'tell me how wonderful and needed I am' (read: poor self-esteem and fragile ego) stuff.

Or maybe I'm just trying to justify my own existance on this board

Nail hit squarely on the head. Liam, make your contributions of info and humor; many readers clearly appreciate both. Just keep your ego in check and knock it off with the snarly attitude toward those who would dare to disagree with you.

It's when it reaches the level of trying to affect the direction of the board that it's a problem.

Liam, give your head a shake! Who do you think you are? This forum will take whatever direction the users of the forum send it in. That includes ALL the users, not just Liam.

Glad you made yourself the self appointed Critic of the Board. Too bad you don't have enough guts to stand up and say who you really are. And how you could include yourself in the "WE" then post anonymously, eludes me. You offer nothing to this forum, then decided who was offended and who wasn't?

Really starting to think that Guests should NOT be able to post. As of late, all appear to be trying to start flame wars.

If you have something to offer, then join. If you are willing to participate in a constructive way, then welcome aboard. If you are looking to start flame wars, complain about people that offer a lot more to the board than you do, then find another forum.

Hmmm. Not nice of the angry guest to use my fake guest name in vain!!



That said, you might note that this topic has gained over 1000 views, making this topic of recent days second only to the "Sleep Doctor" topic. I hope that the powers that be, when considering Mikesus' poll question as to whether to allow guests be mindful of those many viewers. Good arguments can be made for both sides of the poll question. Even I can see a need for such a change. For example, new viewers might be put off by seeing such negativity and senseless squabbling. (naturally, some squabbling is necessary and fun in a family, which the forum feels like) But I still hold out hope for the atatus quo. Afterall, I couldn't have been "Different Guest" and my registered self if it weren't for this guest priviledge. .......And speaking of priviledge....it has been a real privilidge being a part of this forum!

"Totally Different Guest", you need to be more careful with your quotes. First of, based on the rest of your message, you imply that this:

Totally Different Guest wrote:

Actually you were, and we DID take offense

Newsflash: Speak for yourself. You have no business saying "we" took offense. I did not take offense and, based on posts, some other regular users of this forum did not take offense either.

...was from me, and it wasn't. Then you quote this:

Totally Different Guest wrote:

I hope no one thinks I think ALL guests are vitriolic hatred spewers. Just the ones who don't like me

Liam, would you PLEASE get over yourself. This is NOT about whether or not someone likes you. It is about community/support/information for ALL of us. Knock it off with the 'I'm personally offended' crap and the 'tell me how wonderful and needed I am' (read: poor self-esteem and fragile ego) stuff.

And fail to include the smiley at the end. The "Just the ones who don't like me" was a JOKE. I think MOST people here got that. Clearly, you didn't.

Totally Different Guest wrote:

Or maybe I'm just trying to justify my own existance on this board

Nail hit squarely on the head. Liam, make your contributions of info and humor; many readers clearly appreciate both. Just keep your ego in check and knock it off with the snarly attitude toward those who would dare to disagree with you.

This was ALSO a joke. I don't NEED to justify my existance on this board. It's an open board, I can post or not post as I see fit. A couple of times I've considered leaving (either because I was going to give up on CPAP or because I felt people wanted me to go) and each time, people have stepped up and ASKED that I remain. It's nice to have people care about me, but really, that's not why I stay. I stay because I think I have things to say, and being a wiseass by nature, where ever I happen to be, I'm going to throw out jokes. It happens.

Totally Different Guest wrote:

It's when it reaches the level of trying to affect the direction of the board that it's a problem.

Liam, give your head a shake! Who do you think you are? This forum will take whatever direction the users of the forum send it in. That includes ALL the users, not just Liam.

Yes, that's true. But you'll note that VERY few people who actually have the guts to identify themselves have said they don't want me here. It's all "Guests", after which large numbers of regular, registered users come to my defense. There are one or two who disagree with me, and that's fine, and they are welcome to their opinion. And believe me, I would be MORE than happy to stop posting, if that were the will of the masses. It's not about what I think. It's not about what you think. But in this case, what I think seems to be much more in line with what the popular vote thinks, and in a democratic society (which the administrators of the board bend over backwards to allow it to be), the majority rules.

All I'm saying is that I don't even think people who can't be bothered to register or identify themselves should even get a vote, just like someone who emigrates to this country but can't be bothered to get citizen status should not be allowed to vote in our elections.

But, clearly, you think I'm all about the ego, and I think you're all about trying to make others bend to your viewpoint. Maybe we both have ego problems, eh?

Liam, who really will, honest to all that's holy, stop posting if he thinks most people would prefer he stop.

Are those guys gone yet? Safe to take off my mask?

I believe "guests" should be allowed to post. Believe in free speech and all that. This is the first and only message board I belong to. At first I think I did post as a guest because I didn't know how this works and felt intimidated.

My suggestions are that if you are going to post more than 2 or 3 times you should register so regulars can get to know and appreciate you. And finally, use some common sence - no need to attack anyone or be rude. I was personally offended when Liam was attacked and upset that he felt he had to defend himself. Regular participants here probably feel the same on my last point.

This is a free forum so if you find the shared experiences incorrect, inadequate or in some way stepping on your toes and your thoughtful replies and objections go unheeded - don't participate.

As for the no room for humor implication, suggest you pack a big lunch, put on your grim face and head for the nearest medical library. Enjoy!

It's time I abandom my recent "Different Guest" identity and get back to being myself, whatever that is.

I have been humbled by the kind words from Rested Gal and others. I have also been prodded by a couple of forum friends to whom I had confided my secret of being "Different Guest." (word of advice to others doing this.......don't confess!!!) One even got so mean as to call me a "Turkey!" How rude. They insist on me going back to me being me. Bummer. I kind of liked being "Different Guest." Rested Gal suggested on another topic that I might register under the "Different Guest" name and proceed from there. Tempted. But I wouldn't feel right lurking, as fun as that might be. I will have to just deal with my real identity, such as it is.

My last thought before returning to the other side. I think we all have different sides to ourselves. Some sides are better and more interesting than others. Some sides I would like to shake off, others I'd like to trade in for a newer model. Others I like keeping and perhaps should explore more. Others have laid dormant under years of the effects of sleep apnea. So my wish for the original guest or any guest feeling angry or in pain or seeking to incite, to explore all of your sides and show us more of those sides, so we can appreciate you more fully. We can learn from all your sides.

Toodles.


LDuyer, who isn't a really much of a "Different Guest" but likes to play one on television....

The bitbucket at CPAP.COM is dangerously full and if it runs out of space,
this forum will suffer a horrible crash, and you will be destined to wear
a mask all the rest of your life as a punishment

meister wrote:The bitbucket at CPAP.COM is dangerously full and if it runs out of space,
this forum will suffer a horrible crash, and you will be destined to wear
a mask all the rest of your life as a punishment

Oh yeah????
You had to know someone would reply!

Wow! I was away during the time this thread has run on but I see where the "guest" poll came from. BUT, I think much good comes from these strong discussions. Opposites attract and such. I still feel guests should have the right to post. That is something this forum offers that keeps it interesting. I don't read all the posts, don't have the time. I choose to read the ones that interests me. But the point is I have the choice. But, I do see feelings hurt a lot. Even from high volumn posters. It happens. But this is still the best of them.

I have many meducal problems and would not be here but for doctors. But I ALSO WOULD NOT BE HERE BACAUSE OF DOCTORS! I have caught them in many mistakes because I educate myself. After all, they have become "Doctors INC" and it is not always what is best for the patient but what is profitable for the clinic. A sad fact but true. But I STILL go to them. I think the point of forums period is to learn how to take our health into our own hands and to share with others and realize we are not alone in our problems.

Rock and Roll,
You seem to have a great outlook on things, a good balance in your life, I'm guessing. Doctors. Like in anything else there are good ones and bad ones.

I remember when my father went through the ordeal of having bypass surgery and a heart valve replaced, all at once. We couldn't stand the heart doctors, and getting a new one didn't help either. But I was much relieved when I came to understand that those doctors weren't the ones to do the surgery. The hospital surgeon who did the surgery seemed so smart, so articulate in explaining things, so reassuring yet forthright.....seeing this I could finally relax and know my father was in good hands, literally. I will never forget that surgeon, he was so great. So, god bless the good ones. Let's hope there are plenty of the good ones to go around.

If the originator of this thread didn't come here for advice on his treatment, why did he come here? You ask for advice and then complain when it's given.

There are some terrific people here with great information.

It is an open board, so sorry if someone was rude to you, but more often than not I find the people that complain about being insulted are the ones that started it.

I posted questions and received no replies and it really hurt my feelings. The questions were concerning the results of my first sleep study - 17 abnormal breating episodes per hour - is this bad??? I go for my second sleep study in 2 days. I also had 15 leg movements - have not read anything in this forum concerning this subject.

Please help with an answer!!!