Encore Pro reports limitation

SelfSeeker · Post by **SelfSeeker** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:36 pm

ozij, intresting idea about dummy patient ID.

Jskinner

What do I do now LOL

My smart card will have day 7 stuff tomorrow. so then what. If I store it with encorepro, I will not be able to access it, does that mean I need to print it out.

I have not used myencore, content with encorepro. But still want my data accessable to me

Offerocker · Post by **Offerocker** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:18 pm

MY report reflect the dates that I request it reflect.

I've had a recent problem with MyEncorePro: Unable to load SQLBOOT.DLL. Well, WHY? the .dll is there, but don't know what the REAL problem is. Instructed to uninstall & reinstall. No 'uninstall' included. Re-install did not help. I know, I can 'delete' and install again, but why won't the 'reinstall' work as well?

Thanks!

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:34 am

SelfSeeker wrote: My smart card will have day 7 stuff tomorrow. so then what. If I store it with encorepro, I will not be able to access it, does that mean I need to print it out.

Clearly I have not explained the issue well enough. You will always be able to access your old data from encorepro. The problem is that you may not be able to include all the old data on a single report. Also this limitation appears to be only detailed data and not compliance data. To access the old data you have to go back to older download interactions.

For example if I create a detailed report for the date range of Oct 5-12 I only get daily detailed graphs for Oct 9-12. The first 4 days are missing although they are included in the compliance data. To get the detailed graphs for the earlier days I have to go back to one of the older download in the Interaction List

dsm · Post by **dsm** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:49 pm

[quote="jskinner"]I have just spent some more time looking at the underlying database and think I understand now what Encore Pro is doing. From what I can tell you can only ever create a report from data that is from one download of a card. A card will hold a large amount of compliance data and a few days of detailed data. So if you erase or change cards you loose the compliance data can't can no longer access a long way back.

The frustrating part of that is that the data is still in the database you just can't get at it. Of course you can go to different download and still look at it but what you often really want to do is to get a report over the entire data. Not a very elegant design IMHO

Hopefully Derek will continue development of MyEncore and we can work around some of these issues. Has anyone been in contact with him lately? I PM'd him but never heard back...

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:50 am

dsm wrote: Derek was very very ill some months back. We had a couple of posts from him but AKAIK it has been a long silence since.

Derek did a fantastic job of making Encore usable by ordinary folk. It will be sad if his work is not able to be continued.

That doesn't sound good. I hope he is ok.

It would be nice if we had the source code as others could continue to work on it. It is a great improvement over EncorePro and I'd like to see it continued as well.

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:02 pm

I don't know what you are doing but it should be giving you a Long Term Trend report. This report shows up if you have more than 7 days worth of data.

For example, you download from the card going back to June, you add new interactions to the database as you go. When it pulls up the report it will go back I think 6 months and add that data to the Long Term Trend Report or date range selected. It doesn't have the actual Daily Reports going back that far, but it will have your 90% pressure and sleep event data on the Sleep Therapy Long Term Trend report with the date shown at the bottom of the page. This report looks near identical to a Daily report.

Long Term Trend Report is like the 4th page of the 13 page report. The date range when you select the Detailed report can include/exclude June's data. If you only select the data found on the card then it may not have enough data to generate that Long Term Trend report.

Make sure:

1. You have created a patient profile for yourself.
2. Always open EncorePro, select Patient Profile first, then download data from the card. It will store all that data to that patient record.

I have switched machines and never lost any data. Today I dumped both my classic Remstar Auto data and last night's M series Auto data into the database and it generated a Long Term report using the M's data along with prior data.

I erase my card at random, the M series I erased before using yesterday. I have added the do not erase registry entry found on the EncorePro disk.

In a doctors office setting, they many times just give you an erased card, you may not even get yours back, so the erase after interaction download is needed.

If your SmartCard has never been erased and setup, then that may be why you are getting erratic data. That card should hold I think 6 months worth of detailed data, if you are storing it in the database it should append the data.

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:27 pm

Snoredog wrote:I don't know what you are doing but it should be giving you a Long Term Trend report.

Yes I can get Long Term Trend reports. My complaint was that I can't get more Daily Detailed reports for periods other than one card download. Also if you change the patient ID you can no longer go back in time (including Compliance and Trend). This happened to me when my DME swapped a card once.

Snoredog wrote: If your SmartCard has never been erased and setup, then that may be why you are getting erratic data. That card should hold I think 6 months worth of detailed data, if you are storing it in the database it should append the data.

Its not that I'm getting erratic data, its just that EncorePro doesn't always behave the way I expect it (I'm a software designer so I may be more picky than most )

Unless I am mistaken the smart card will only store 7 days of detailed data and about 6 months of compliance data?

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:45 pm

jskinner wrote:

Unless I am mistaken the smart card will only store 7 days of detailed data and about 6 months of compliance data?

that is correct (from the card), but with the database you can pull up the LAST 7-days detailed report (7 day from the End Date selected if a date range).

For example, I can pull up a interaction giving me from June 24 to Aug 24th data. There will be a Long Term trend page, in addition I will have the last 7 days of Daily Detailed data going back from 8/24 (i.e. I get 8/24, 8/23, 8/22, 8/21, 8/20, 8/19, 8/18's Detailed Daily Report).

The report format will only give you 7 day's worth of daily detailed data (or less) no matter what range you select. If I want to see detailed daily data going back to 8/17, that is the "end" date I input in the date range search, it then pulls up detailed daily reports for 8/16, 8/15 etc. if date range is 7 days or longer it will generate the Long Term Trend report. At which point it should become about a 13 page report.

So the point is you can pull up any detailed daily report even going months back, but it is limited to 7 day's worth at any given report you generate.

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:33 pm

Snoredog wrote: So the point is you can pull up any detailed daily report even going months back, but it is limited to 7 day's worth at any given report you generate.

Agreed. Your description of how it works is consistent with my experience.