So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by Julie » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:58 am

My Honda Fit is not tacky, just the stupid name is... why couldn't they use the same name (in N. America) that's used all over the world... Honda Jazz?

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by palerider » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:11 am

Julie wrote:My Honda Fit is not tacky, just the stupid name is... why couldn't they use the same name (in N. America) that's used all over the world... Honda Jazz?
plastic:
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wood and leather:
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so, I guess, there really is no Rolls Royce of cpap machines

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by 2kittymom » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:20 am

After the 1st year of using it and being compliant with the requirements, the machine was mine. As others have said, the current top two, I believe are the Resmed S10 autoset and the Philips Resperonics Dream Station. In recommending a full face mask, I recently got an Airfit F10. I really like it. Before I get any new products, I check out all the reviews I can find. I especially like the YouTube reviews by The Lanky Lefty. He's a sleep tech who reviews all the new products.

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by JimW159 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:49 pm

Perhaps you might help in defining what you mean by "Rolls Royce of CPAP machines." If you are looking for the most luxurious machine, the question of "what is luxury" in CPAP would come up. If, on the other hand, you are looking for the most reliable, then why not use Land Rover as an analogy? The point is: what are the specific quality criteria you are using to guide you? Insurance uses the exact same billing code when it comes to CPAP machines - it matters not the brand, capabilities, or quality perceptions of the user. If you went to Hertz and just rented a car with no differentiation as to type, brand, or model, you would likely ask for the one that best suited your specific needs not some supposedly universal belief as to its status - unless, of course, if that was what you wanted.

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by Julie » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:04 pm

Good answer. You can buy machines that do more than just C- or Apap and cost a lot more, but they also do a lot more that's not necessary for plain obstructive apnea and you wouldn't need them unless you had a diagnosis that made it necessary. It was kind of a silly question really.

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by palerider » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:18 pm

Julie wrote:It was kind of a silly question really.
well, it's a good question, though perhaps not the best way to state it.

looking at cpap.com, you've got:

3B Medical -- chinese junk
AEIOMed -- out of business?
Apex Medical -- down the list somewhere, certainly not the "apex".
CareFusion -- out of business?
Curative Medical -- who are these people?
DeVilbiss -- good, not the best data.
Evo -- out of business?
Fisher & Paykel -- said to be flaky at times.
Human Design Medical -- spendy pocket travel machines, do they work??
Philips Respironics -- #2 by a nose, but budget engineering at times.
PMI Porbasics -- more dead zone?
Puritan Bennet -- and more dead zone.
ResMed -- my choice for #1, for data and general engineering.
Somnetics -- another 'travel' ish machine line.
Sunrise Medical -- dead and buried.
Viasys -- more wasteland.

and then there's other brands in other countries that I've only heard of in test reports.

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:46 pm

Your "Rolls Royce" is whichever one meets your needs at a price point you can afford (or your insurer will allow). I guess for that exclusive 'Trump' touch you could have the case and electronics professionally disassembled then take the plastic case to an electroplate facility and have it gold plated. That'd be pretty cool.
Full disclosure: Here's where I got the idea from:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... nsion.html
2kittymom wrote: Before I get any new products, I check out all the reviews I can find. I especially like the YouTube reviews by The Lanky Lefty. He's a sleep tech who reviews all the new products.
Plus one for Lanky Lefty's reviews.

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by Janknitz » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:25 pm

D.H. wrote:Given that insurance pays for almost all CPAP machines, the Rolls Royce analogy doesn't work.

What insurance would pay for a Rolls Royce when a Toyota or Chevrolet would do? Thus, there's no market for a Rolls Royce.


Meanwhile, most of the machines on the market are good.
Your insurer pays one price they set for ANY CPAP machine. They don't care if it's a rolls Royce or a ford pinto. There's a single billing code for all (APAP and CPAP) machines and they pay for ANY machine but not a penny more or less than their set amount. Your fight to get a RR machine is with the DME, not the insurer. Your DME hopes to give you the cheapest brick they can. Read my "What you need to know BEFORE you meet your DME for tips on how to get at least a Cadillac. The machine models in my blog are out of date.
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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by TRzzz » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:46 pm

drduke49 wrote: [snip] Love to hear recommendations on full face masks as well. Thanks to all for your input - greatly appreciated!

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My wife tried a few FFMs before settling on the Fisher & Paykel Simplus. She still experienced a bit of misfit however (air leakage), but that's been taken care of using a fabric mask liner.

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by chunkyfrog » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:04 pm

Once your insurance pays for the state of the art every night machine,
you might want to start looking for a travel machine.
Start a collection; it seems to be a trend here.

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by JimW159 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:35 pm

Sir NoddinOff wrote: I guess for that exclusive 'Trump' touch ...
The only problem with that approach: would it release any data and if it did, would it be believable?

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:57 pm

JimW159 wrote:
Sir NoddinOff wrote: I guess for that exclusive 'Trump' touch ...
The only problem with that approach would it release any data and if it did, would it be believable?
That's a good zinger Jim. I wonder if Trump has a gold plated toilet like the Kardashians? TIP: see my previous reply and the link that's in there. And lovely, lovely people they are too.

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by mdemers800 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:50 pm

I used this forum and CPAP.com to do a lot of research about what machine to get. I concluded the best machine for my tastes was an Airsense 10 for Her (same as Airsense 10 with extra algorithm.)

When I went to see my doctor, he recommend the F&P. So I went home and researched it and concluded the Airsense was much better. I have posted the comparison,
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=113419&p=1094430#p1094430

I provided the same info to my doctor and asked him to write a prescription specifically for the Airsense. He did. My insurance assigned me to a local DME that did not carry the Airsense. I asked them to re-assign me to one that did. They did and I got the Airsense. I am happy with this machine so far.

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by palerider » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:02 am

mdemers800 wrote:I used this forum and CPAP.com to do a lot of research about what machine to get. I concluded the best machine for my tastes was an Airsense 10 for Her (same as Airsense 10 with extra algorithm.)
you got the Airsense10 AutoSet for her, which is the same as the Airsense10 AutoSet except with an extra mode. (to avoid any possible confusion with the Airsense10 Elite and the Airsense10 CPAP models)

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Re: So what is considered the Rolls Royce of CPAP Machines

Post by mdemers800 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:10 am

thanks, pretty important correction by PR.... Autoset is very different from the other two Airsense models.
palerider wrote:you got the Airsense10 AutoSet for her, which is the same as the Airsense10 AutoSet except with an extra mode. (to avoid any possible confusion with the Airsense10 Elite and the Airsense10 CPAP models)