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Should Trump Drop Out

Yes
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No
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56%
What is Trump?
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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by Nin6 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:39 pm

"I bet you voted for Obama even though he had zero experience leading anything, right?"

Not true. To quote from Wikipedia, (Bolds are mine) ; Born in Honolulu, Hawaii, Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School between 1992 and 2004. While serving three terms representing the 13th District in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004, he ran unsuccessfully in the Democratic primary for the United States House of Representatives in 2000 against incumbent Bobby Rush.

In 2004, Obama received national attention during his campaign to represent Illinois in the United States Senate with his victory in the March Democratic Party primary, his keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July, and his election to the Senate in November.
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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by Nin6 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:43 pm

I doubt that you could even list ONE of Hillary's "accomplishments". Not the positions she's held, but actual accomplishments.


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How about this one for just a small one (also from Wikipedia). Lots of other ones for children and families, but you can read them yourself on Wikipedia, among other places.

In 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.[65] Under the guidance of Chief Counsel John Doar and senior member Bernard W. Nussbaum,[46] Rodham helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.[65] The committee's work culminated in the resignation of President Richard Nixon in August 1974.[65]

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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by flightco » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:47 pm

Nin6 wrote:I bet you voted for Obama even though he had zero experience leading anything, right?

Not true. To quote from Wikipedia, (Bolds are mine) ; Born in Honolulu, Hawaii, Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School between 1992 and 2004. While serving three terms representing the 13th District in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004, he ran unsuccessfully in the Democratic primary for the United States House of Representatives in 2000 against incumbent Bobby Rush.

In 2004, Obama received national attention during his campaign to represent Illinois in the United States Senate with his victory in the March Democratic Party primary, his keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July, and his election to the Senate in November.
I can see that he went to school and had a job.

No, I see it now.

LEADERSHIP:
President of school newspaper

Yeah, that qualifies him to be POTUS

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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by Nin6 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:47 pm

Wulfman... wrote:Labor unions?
Are you aware that the labor unions in California have been trying to avoid paying the new $15 minimum wage?
Look it up. Lots of documentation about their efforts to get exemptions.


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What does that have to do with the statements on Trump's not paying people he legitimately owes money to (or the price of tea in China for that matter)?

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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by Nin6 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:51 pm

flightco wrote:
Nin6 wrote:I bet you voted for Obama even though he had zero experience leading anything, right?

Not true. To quote from Wikipedia, (Bolds are mine) ; Born in Honolulu, Hawaii, Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School between 1992 and 2004. While serving three terms representing the 13th District in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004, he ran unsuccessfully in the Democratic primary for the United States House of Representatives in 2000 against incumbent Bobby Rush.

In 2004, Obama received national attention during his campaign to represent Illinois in the United States Senate with his victory in the March Democratic Party primary, his keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July, and his election to the Senate in November.
I can see that he went to school and had a job.

No, I see it now.

LEADERSHIP:
President of school newspaper

Yeah, that qualifies him to be POTUS

Sigh . . . I bolded it so you wouldn't miss it - 3 times in the Illinois Senate, 1 term in the US Senate.

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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by flightco » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:15 pm

Nin6 wrote:
flightco wrote:
Nin6 wrote:I bet you voted for Obama even though he had zero experience leading anything, right?

Not true. To quote from Wikipedia, (Bolds are mine) ; Born in Honolulu, Hawaii, Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School between 1992 and 2004. While serving three terms representing the 13th District in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004, he ran unsuccessfully in the Democratic primary for the United States House of Representatives in 2000 against incumbent Bobby Rush.

In 2004, Obama received national attention during his campaign to represent Illinois in the United States Senate with his victory in the March Democratic Party primary, his keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July, and his election to the Senate in November.
I can see that he went to school and had a job.

No, I see it now.

LEADERSHIP:
President of school newspaper

Yeah, that qualifies him to be POTUS

Sigh . . . I bolded it so you wouldn't miss it - 3 times in the Illinois Senate, 1 term in the US Senate.
Being a state senator is not leadership, it is creating laws other people have to follow. Here is a comment from Hillary about his time in the IL Senate, "On issue after issue that really were hard to explain or understand, you voted present . . . And anytime anyone raises that, there's always some kind of explanation," Clinton said in her most direct attack, during a Jan. 21 Democratic debate in South Carolina

I live in IL, Obama had no accomplishments other than getting elected, and if you think it is an accomplishment for a democrat to be elected in IL, well you just need to come here.

As far as being a US senator, he was a Senator for 2 years, of which more than 50% of the time the Senate was not in session. A Governor is an executive position, House and Senate no so.

I do not see any accomplishments for the American People

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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by Gasper62 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:20 pm

Nin6 wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:Labor unions?
Are you aware that the labor unions in California have been trying to avoid paying the new $15 minimum wage?
Look it up. Lots of documentation about their efforts to get exemptions.


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What does that have to do with the statements on Trump's not paying people he legitimately owes money to (or the price of tea in China for that matter)?
Save yer breath, Nin6. You'll never be able to penetrate the foil hats of the lemmings yer attempting to debate with. Facts and reason make them recoil with fear and loathing every time. I've yet to hear what Hillary's possible motives were for any email improprieties may have been. Or, any way that she might have derived any benefits from them. Or, any tangible/demonstrable negative results brought about by them. Not a peep about the war criminals of Bush-Cheney, the lives they ended by their acts, nor the monumental task Obama undertook to clean up the huge shitpile they left in their wake, all while overcoming blatant racism and obstruction from the Republican traitors that decided they'd rather tank America than cooperate for the common good. IMO any deluded wacko that thinks for one minute that Trump is an acceptable choice for POTUS is definitely not worthy of any further respect or consideration of mine. Remember the Alamo and B E N G H A Z I ! ! ! (just don't forget the MANY embassies attacked under G.W. Bushtard ) (Ronnie Ray Gun, too ) Here's some light reading for ya. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=em ... ush+cheney
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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by Wulfman... » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:21 pm

Nin6 wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:I doubt that you could even list ONE of Hillary's "accomplishments". Not the positions she's held, but actual accomplishments.


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How about this one for just a small one (also from Wikipedia). Lots of other ones for children and families, but you can read them yourself on Wikipedia, among other places.

In 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.[65] Under the guidance of Chief Counsel John Doar and senior member Bernard W. Nussbaum,[46] Rodham helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.[65] The committee's work culminated in the resignation of President Richard Nixon in August 1974.[65]
Yeah, there's more to that story, too.

http://jacksonville.com/reason/fact-che ... estigation

Here's another one of her "accomplishments"........getting a rapist off. (Wasn't Bill, either.)

http://jacksonville.com/reason/fact-che ... -rape-case


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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by Nin6 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:35 pm

Gasper62 wrote:
Nin6 wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:Labor unions?
Are you aware that the labor unions in California have been trying to avoid paying the new $15 minimum wage?
Look it up. Lots of documentation about their efforts to get exemptions.


Den

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What does that have to do with the statements on Trump's not paying people he legitimately owes money to (or the price of tea in China for that matter)?
Save yer breath, Nin6. You'll never be able to penetrate the foil hats of the lemmings yer attempting to debate with. Facts and reason make them recoil with fear and loathing every time. I've yet to hear what Hillary's possible motives were for any email improprieties may have been. Or, any way that she might have derived any benefits from them. Or, any tangible/demonstrable negative results brought about by them. Not a peep about the war criminals of Bush-Cheney, the lives they ended by their acts, nor the monumental task Obama undertook to clean up the huge shitpile they left in their wake, all while overcoming blatant racism and obstruction from the Republican traitors that decided they'd rather tank America than cooperate for the common good. IMO any deluded wacko that thinks for one minute that Trump is an acceptable choice for POTUS is definitely not worthy of any further respect or consideration of mine. Remember the Alamo and B E N G H A Z I ! ! ! (just don't forget the MANY embassies attacked under G.W. Bushtard ) (Ronnie Ray Gun, too ) Here's some light reading for ya. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=em ... ush+cheney
You're right. Ah well, it was a fun exercise. Luckily we still live in a US where everyone can have their own opinion EVEN IF IT'S WRONG!!!

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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by Wulfman... » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:37 pm

Gasper62 wrote:
Nin6 wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:Labor unions?
Are you aware that the labor unions in California have been trying to avoid paying the new $15 minimum wage?
Look it up. Lots of documentation about their efforts to get exemptions.


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What does that have to do with the statements on Trump's not paying people he legitimately owes money to (or the price of tea in China for that matter)?
Save yer breath, Nin6. You'll never be able to penetrate the foil hats of the lemmings yer attempting to debate with. Facts and reason make them recoil with fear and loathing every time. I've yet to hear what Hillary's possible motives were for any email improprieties may have been. Or, any way that she might have derived any benefits from them. Or, any tangible/demonstrable negative results brought about by them. Not a peep about the war criminals of Bush-Cheney, the lives they ended by their acts, nor the monumental task Obama undertook to clean up the huge shitpile they left in their wake, all while overcoming blatant racism and obstruction from the Republican traitors that decided they'd rather tank America than cooperate for the common good. IMO any deluded wacko that thinks for one minute that Trump is an acceptable choice for POTUS is definitely not worthy of any further respect or consideration of mine. Remember the Alamo and B E N G H A Z I ! ! ! (just don't forget the MANY embassies attacked under G.W. Bushtard ) (Ronnie Ray Gun, too ) Here's some light reading for ya. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=em ... ush+cheney
Holy smokes!!!
Talk about tin foil hats!!!!

For the record, I was against the "incursion" into Iraq. I still remember the moment I heard that news and I said "Well, there's payback for Daddy." Saddam Hussein was a brutal SOB, but he kept a multitude of factions in line.
Things were going OK there until a few years ago........ But, at this point, it's worse, thanks to BHO.

Similar stories with Libya and Egypt.


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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by Nin6 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:41 pm

Gasper62 wrote:Another perspective ...........http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... 213157?o=1
Very good! Better than mine.

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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by Gasper62 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:44 pm

Still waitin' , you highlighted it, now cough it up. No Breitbart drivel will be accepted, either.

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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by Goofproof » Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:21 pm

Nin6 wrote:"I bet you voted for Obama even though he had zero experience leading anything, right?"

Not true. To quote from Wikipedia, (Bolds are mine) ; Born in Honolulu, Hawaii, Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School between 1992 and 2004. While serving three terms representing the 13th District in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004, he ran unsuccessfully in the Democratic primary for the United States House of Representatives in 2000 against incumbent Bobby Rush.

In 2004, Obama received national attention during his campaign to represent Illinois in the United States Senate with his victory in the March Democratic Party primary, his keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July, and his election to the Senate in November.
You are right, he had done pretty will for someone with a valid birth certificate. Jim
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Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Post by Wulfman... » Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:45 pm

Gasper62 wrote:Still waitin' , you highlighted it, now cough it up. No Breitbart drivel will be accepted, either.
Not a problem.
Actually, since there is SO MUCH information on the crooked Clinton corruption, the "problem" was picking the most current links. Actually, there were surprisingly few Breitbart links in my searches.

Here are just a smidgen.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/26/opinions/ ... inion-cox/

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/a-guid ... ns-emails/

http://getoffthebs.com/clinton-produced ... l-address/

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... zi/396182/

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... ing-intent

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/ca ... mpany.html

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/t ... cks-224178


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