Should Trump Jump Up?

Wulfman... wrote:...any vote that's NOT for Donald Trump is a vote for Hillary Clinton.

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Any vote that's not for HC is a vote for DT.

Lucyhere wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:...any vote that's NOT for Donald Trump is a vote for Hillary Clinton.

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Any vote that's not for HC is a vote for DT.

Technically, a vote for a 3rd party candidate goes to neither of the major candidates, but is in effect "wasted" on allowing yourself to feel good about throwing your vote away.

Been there, done that and regretted it in the long run......even though at the time I thought I couldn't vote for Bush 41 again after "Read my lips.......".
On the other hand, the radical policies and scandals of the Clintons led to the takeover of the House and Senate by the Republicans back in the 90's.
"Politicians are like diapers.......and need to be changed periodically........and for the same reasons."


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MyIdaho wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:Interesting thought, but...........any vote that's NOT for Donald Trump is a vote for Hillary Clinton.

I learned that lesson with Ross Perot.


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Actually, your assertion is not true. A vote for a third party candidate is merely a vote for that candidate. It does not add or subtract a vote from Trump's or Clinton's total. Rather, it will show up in the third party candidates total or in the total for "write-in". Both D and R candidates are crap sandwiches this year, we need a reset button!

I am so glad to hear this, this is great news. I encourage at least half of the democrats to vote for Jill Stein. You now know it will not effect HRCs count so you can vote for Jill and Hillary will still get elected

Go Jill...

MyIdaho wrote:Trump cannot be trusted to do what he says. Multiple times he has said one thing and switched. His word means nothing at this point. He has the debating skill of a fifth grader, assuming one puts emphasis on name calling rather than actual substance. I can't see any reason to vote for him. Trump will soon be the answer to a trivia question, "which presidential candidate received the lowest electoral vote in US history?". Goodness, Trump is gonna make Ted Mondale and George McGovern look like rockstars!

The fact that you made the stupid comment about voting for a 3rd party not affecting votes of the 2 parties does not lend credibility to your comment about Trump. The fact is, we already know for a fact Hillary cannot be trusted and will lie to us several times in a week. You might be right about Trump, but I know it is right about Hillary, Trump gets my vote although I think both are a huge risk.

Lucyhere wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:...any vote that's NOT for Donald Trump is a vote for Hillary Clinton.

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Any vote that's not for HC is a vote for DT.

Not true, ask Idaho, vote for Jill Stein, it will not affect HRC at all.

Nin6 wrote:

LSAT wrote:Let's get back on topic.....I'm not a supporter of either candidate. I don't know what I'm going to do on election day....However....
Trump talks about what Clinton "actually did"......Clinton talks about what Trump "said". Saying stupid things doesn't put our country at risk or cost americans their lives.....What Clinton "did"...does.

Yes, but Trump hasn't DONE ANYTHING in politics before, so he couldn't DO anything that would cost American lives. If he did only a small portion of what he SAYS, the US is in big trouble. If you count what he's done in business, he's claimed a LOT of bankruptcies which has shorted a lot of people a lot of money and probably ruined a lot of lives. That should count if you're comparing the two.

I bet you voted for Obama even though he had zero experience leading anything, right?

You can criticize Trump for his bankruptcies and even Trump U, but in the whole of his business it is a very small portion and like it or not, he is following the rules mostly set up by democrats to help out their buddies (whom I believe Trump WAS one) How many jobs has Hillary created with her money? Trump has employed 10s of Thousands paying them and their benefits with his money.

Everyone wants Trumps Tax Returns without insisting Hillary release the transcripts of her speeches to wall street where she was paid more than half a million dollars for a 30 minute speech. Hillary has Trumps taxes, he emailed them to her

Wulfman... wrote:

Nin6 wrote:

LSAT wrote:Let's get back on topic.....I'm not a supporter of either candidate. I don't know what I'm going to do on election day....However....
Trump talks about what Clinton "actually did"......Clinton talks about what Trump "said". Saying stupid things doesn't put our country at risk or cost americans their lives.....What Clinton "did"...does.

Yes, but Trump hasn't DONE ANYTHING in politics before, so he couldn't DO anything that would cost American lives. If he did only a small portion of what he SAYS, the US is in big trouble. If you count what he's done in business, he's claimed a LOT of bankruptcies which has shorted a lot of people a lot of money and probably ruined a lot of lives. That should count if you're comparing the two.

The policies of the current administration have put MANY businesses OUT OF BUSINESS or into bankruptcies. They have ruined lots of peoples' lives. There are 90-some million people out of work in this country and they're trying to let in more illegal aliens to do cheap work (?).

If you truly like devastating policies, vote for HER. It'll guarantee the ruination of this country. (which is teetering on the brink right now)


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And Trump is one of the main people to use cheap labor and shyest people out of money. And one of the biggest liars of all time. He will guarantee the ruination of this country and more laws so big business can make money and the little guy gets the shaft. Unless he gets us into a major war to revive the economy. I keep hearing negative things about Clinton, but Trump has actually DONE the things to hurt the little guy. Take a look at his business history. And don't say that all business men are like him. There are plenty of ethical businessmen out there who take care of their workers and pay their bills, but Trump is NOT one of them! I can't understand how "the little guy" can support the very person who has been stepping on him and somehow think he's going to change his stripes and suddenly help him. Trump uses cheap labor and doesn't pay people if he can get away with it.

Nin6 wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:

Nin6 wrote:

LSAT wrote:Let's get back on topic.....I'm not a supporter of either candidate. I don't know what I'm going to do on election day....However....
Trump talks about what Clinton "actually did"......Clinton talks about what Trump "said". Saying stupid things doesn't put our country at risk or cost americans their lives.....What Clinton "did"...does.

Yes, but Trump hasn't DONE ANYTHING in politics before, so he couldn't DO anything that would cost American lives. If he did only a small portion of what he SAYS, the US is in big trouble. If you count what he's done in business, he's claimed a LOT of bankruptcies which has shorted a lot of people a lot of money and probably ruined a lot of lives. That should count if you're comparing the two.

The policies of the current administration have put MANY businesses OUT OF BUSINESS or into bankruptcies. They have ruined lots of peoples' lives. There are 90-some million people out of work in this country and they're trying to let in more illegal aliens to do cheap work (?).

If you truly like devastating policies, vote for HER. It'll guarantee the ruination of this country. (which is teetering on the brink right now)


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And Trump is one of the main people to use cheap labor and shyest people out of money. And one of the biggest liars of all time. He will guarantee the ruination of this country and more laws so big business can make money and the little guy gets the shaft. Unless he gets us into a major war to revive the economy. I keep hearing negative things about Clinton, but Trump has actually DONE the things to hurt the little guy. Take a look at his business history. And don't say that all business men are like him. There are plenty of ethical businessmen out there who take care of their workers and pay their bills, but Trump is NOT one of them! I can't understand how "the little guy" can support the very person who has been stepping on him and somehow think he's going to change his stripes and suddenly help him. Trump uses cheap labor and doesn't pay people if he can get away with it.

Any facts to back this up or do you prefer talking points from CNN

Nin6 wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:

Nin6 wrote:

LSAT wrote:Let's get back on topic.....I'm not a supporter of either candidate. I don't know what I'm going to do on election day....However....
Trump talks about what Clinton "actually did"......Clinton talks about what Trump "said". Saying stupid things doesn't put our country at risk or cost americans their lives.....What Clinton "did"...does.

Yes, but Trump hasn't DONE ANYTHING in politics before, so he couldn't DO anything that would cost American lives. If he did only a small portion of what he SAYS, the US is in big trouble. If you count what he's done in business, he's claimed a LOT of bankruptcies which has shorted a lot of people a lot of money and probably ruined a lot of lives. That should count if you're comparing the two.

The policies of the current administration have put MANY businesses OUT OF BUSINESS or into bankruptcies. They have ruined lots of peoples' lives. There are 90-some million people out of work in this country and they're trying to let in more illegal aliens to do cheap work (?).

If you truly like devastating policies, vote for HER. It'll guarantee the ruination of this country. (which is teetering on the brink right now)


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And Trump is one of the main people to use cheap labor and shyest people out of money. And one of the biggest liars of all time. He will guarantee the ruination of this country and more laws so big business can make money and the little guy gets the shaft. Unless he gets us into a major war to revive the economy. I keep hearing negative things about Clinton, but Trump has actually DONE the things to hurt the little guy. Take a look at his business history. And don't say that all business men are like him. There are plenty of ethical businessmen out there who take care of their workers and pay their bills, but Trump is NOT one of them! I can't understand how "the little guy" can support the very person who has been stepping on him and somehow think he's going to change his stripes and suddenly help him. Trump uses cheap labor and doesn't pay people if he can get away with it.

Maybe it's the Stockholm Syndrome.

Nin6 wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:

Nin6 wrote:

LSAT wrote:Let's get back on topic.....I'm not a supporter of either candidate. I don't know what I'm going to do on election day....However....
Trump talks about what Clinton "actually did"......Clinton talks about what Trump "said". Saying stupid things doesn't put our country at risk or cost americans their lives.....What Clinton "did"...does.

Yes, but Trump hasn't DONE ANYTHING in politics before, so he couldn't DO anything that would cost American lives. If he did only a small portion of what he SAYS, the US is in big trouble. If you count what he's done in business, he's claimed a LOT of bankruptcies which has shorted a lot of people a lot of money and probably ruined a lot of lives. That should count if you're comparing the two.

The policies of the current administration have put MANY businesses OUT OF BUSINESS or into bankruptcies. They have ruined lots of peoples' lives. There are 90-some million people out of work in this country and they're trying to let in more illegal aliens to do cheap work (?).

If you truly like devastating policies, vote for HER. It'll guarantee the ruination of this country. (which is teetering on the brink right now)


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And Trump is one of the main people to use cheap labor and shyest people out of money. And one of the biggest liars of all time. He will guarantee the ruination of this country and more laws so big business can make money and the little guy gets the shaft. Unless he gets us into a major war to revive the economy. I keep hearing negative things about Clinton, but Trump has actually DONE the things to hurt the little guy. Take a look at his business history. And don't say that all business men are like him. There are plenty of ethical businessmen out there who take care of their workers and pay their bills, but Trump is NOT one of them! I can't understand how "the little guy" can support the very person who has been stepping on him and somehow think he's going to change his stripes and suddenly help him. Trump uses cheap labor and doesn't pay people if he can get away with it.

How much more absurd can you get? Total nonsense.
You must be listening to the MSM (MainStream Media) and actually believing their garbage.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/trumps-bu ... le/1031022

I doubt that you could even list ONE of Hillary's "accomplishments". Not the positions she's held, but actual accomplishments.


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flightco wrote:

Nin6 wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:

Nin6 wrote:

LSAT wrote:Let's get back on topic.....I'm not a supporter of either candidate. I don't know what I'm going to do on election day....However....
Trump talks about what Clinton "actually did"......Clinton talks about what Trump "said". Saying stupid things doesn't put our country at risk or cost americans their lives.....What Clinton "did"...does.

Yes, but Trump hasn't DONE ANYTHING in politics before, so he couldn't DO anything that would cost American lives. If he did only a small portion of what he SAYS, the US is in big trouble. If you count what he's done in business, he's claimed a LOT of bankruptcies which has shorted a lot of people a lot of money and probably ruined a lot of lives. That should count if you're comparing the two.

The policies of the current administration have put MANY businesses OUT OF BUSINESS or into bankruptcies. They have ruined lots of peoples' lives. There are 90-some million people out of work in this country and they're trying to let in more illegal aliens to do cheap work (?).

If you truly like devastating policies, vote for HER. It'll guarantee the ruination of this country. (which is teetering on the brink right now)


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And Trump is one of the main people to use cheap labor and shyest people out of money. And one of the biggest liars of all time. He will guarantee the ruination of this country and more laws so big business can make money and the little guy gets the shaft. Unless he gets us into a major war to revive the economy. I keep hearing negative things about Clinton, but Trump has actually DONE the things to hurt the little guy. Take a look at his business history. And don't say that all business men are like him. There are plenty of ethical businessmen out there who take care of their workers and pay their bills, but Trump is NOT one of them! I can't understand how "the little guy" can support the very person who has been stepping on him and somehow think he's going to change his stripes and suddenly help him. Trump uses cheap labor and doesn't pay people if he can get away with it.

Any facts to back this up or do you prefer talking points from CNN

A small businessman's viewpoint who seems to be a decent guy. http://aflcio.shpg.org/48/174102?link_i ... -his-bills

By the way, it's the Democrats and the Chamber of Commerce who are trying to flood this country with cheap (slave) labor and have been for many decades.

Trump is trying to get good-paying jobs back into this country and get rid of the horrible trade agreements. The previous administrations have been the ones trying to stab our workers and industries in the backs. The high corporate taxes have been driving business out of this country.


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Silly humans!

They'll never figure out that they're ALL wasted votes!!

She managed to break the law concerning the handling of government classified information and not get punished. When I was working in aerospace (which required a security clearance and special program access), that was an automatic loss of program access, loss of security clearance, loss of job and possible jail time.

Labor unions?
Are you aware that the labor unions in California have been trying to avoid paying the new $15 minimum wage?
Look it up. Lots of documentation about their efforts to get exemptions.


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