How to stop back Straps from "sliding up".... for Men?

I've been researching how to stop my CPAP harness back straps from moving up at night which causes issues, mostly.
Somebody's mentioned wearing a Baseball Cap, or a "Beanie" hat or similar thing.
I think someone mentioned a woman's "Stocking" to put over head?
My concern with all those is they won't seem to reach the back straps?

What else can I do, cause it's one of the biggest issues atm?
Cutting my hair might help so it doesn't slide as well, but not fully I think because I move alot.

I'm on a second mask trying it out.
First was the Mirage Quatro, now trying the Amara View.
I really like the potential of the Amara View but it has several issues and one fairly big one that I didn't discover when I tested it for a week.
They don't make the bottom width and bottom wide/long enough. The mask seems like it's designed as a small when it should be a large. The edges of my mouth are almost not covered, and if I open my mouth much my bottom lip will pop out.
It has other livable improvements needed, but those are the biggest. I frankly don't get what they were thinking when they designed it so small.

Anyway, when the strap slides up in the night, I wake up alot of course and pull it down, but also my bottom lip will pop out.
Really disappointed in the design but it has potential, it just needs lot's of fixes.
So, what do I do..... do I have to find one of the above, none of which I have atm, or is there another way? The velcro method might work, but again another thing I'll have to get, but if I cut my hair which I will as I start getting better or soon here to try and stop the slidding, that won't work.

Have you looked into a different headgear size? And if you talk to the people at Cpap.com they might know of headgear from one mask that will fit others - worth asking about I think.

Try the strap covers from padacheek. They solved that problem for me plus they provide extra cushion.

Sheriff

I have never tried this but I think you should be able to anchor that back strap to a cervical collar with just a piece of ribbon or something. I wear a collar but my long hair anchors back straps. It is just a thought.

How long is your back hair? Is it oily?
Have you tried "butch wax"? Or is that still made?

1. I'll maybe look into the strap covers from padacheek, but trying to find a no cost solution, I've gotten so bad my church is taking care of me fully for the last 2 years because I've become physically non-functional due to years of having Sleep Apnea, and a little depression from a abusive marriage, unjust divorce/family lost. Just being constant tired can't even showing very often and other problems.

2. Cervical collar? I'll see if I can find info about that.

3. ATM there's some length, but I don't want to have length. Last night I did pull everything up as possible, and I got one of the best sleeps yet on CPAP 7 hours and only waking a few times very brief.
But, can't keep my hair long as I get better, so I need a better solution. I was just thinking about the "caps" thing. Just realized one of those might work if the bottom of the cap basically pushes down.
But I need something that doesn't feel like you're wearing, like a baseball cap wouldn't work cause it cut's off my head circulation, so I've never worn baseball caps. A "nitted" hat might work.

4. Ya, the Amara View only has one size of strap, I got large headgear and mask, and yet they both are so poor designed they are more like a small.
I was having the same problems with the headgear with the Mirage Quatro.

Lee, I have a very cheap solution for you.... Just get a cheap bit of Velcro (I use the small dots with a sticky back) stick the hard side, not the soft fuzzy side to the back of your strap and it will stick to you hair and keep it from sliding up. I have short hair and my strap always crept up during the night until I discovered this fix. I just buy the cheapest package I can find from Walmart and it works like a charm . Even cheaper for you would be to find one of the ladies in your church that sews with fleece and get her to make you a strap cover from one of her scraps. Good luck
Nan

I don't use nasal pillows any more but I did use them a few years ago and I had the same problem. I tried the velcro trick but my hair was too fine for that to work. Out of desperation I finally looped a 4" long piece of 3M NexCare mulitpore tape around the lower back strap (you can use white athletic tape too), then ran the tail end down the back of my neck. Finally at the bottom of the tape I put another 2" piece of tape horizontally and on the middle/back (nape) of my neck, thereby securing the vertical tape. To sum up, basically all I did was stick the back strap of the headgear to the back of my neck with a strip of tape. I'd take a picture but I don't have that setup anymore.

Shave your neck if you have to. If you've got long hair, just split it to the sides in two bunches and proceed. You don't have to replace the tape down the back of your neck every day (I used to replace that about once every two weeks), but obviously you do have to replace horizontal piece that sticks to your neck every night. Works like a charm for men or women, however is a PITA to do every night... but, hey, it works. BTW, Supine sleeping made my back strap slide up.

I solved my mask riding up by wearing my top strap just over my ears. The headgear never fits correctly no matter how you adjust it, I have found after getting the top as stated, I take the bottom strap and roll it on itself, making it closer together in the back. That stops the mask from riding up, it doesn't need to be sewed or stapled in place. Easy fix. Jim

Goofproof wrote:I solved my mask riding up by wearing my top strap just over my ears. The headgear never fits correctly no matter how you adjust it, I have found after getting the top as stated, I take the bottom strap and roll it on itself, making it closer together in the back. That stops the mask from riding up, it doesn't need to be sewed or stapled in place. Easy fix. Jim

Hmmm, interesting...

I'm new to this forum. Are you able to post pics here? I also had trouble with my strap, I cut it and moved the top and bottom straps closer together, Mrs. sewed it and that helped me.

Guest wrote:I'm new to this forum. Are you able to post pics here? I also had trouble with my strap, I cut it and moved the top and bottom straps closer together, Mrs. sewed it and that helped me.

Basically, that's what I do but the cutting and sewing isn't required. In the beginning I stapled the strap in place, but found out it would stay folded on its own with the correct adjustment. Jim

Guest wrote:I'm new to this forum. Are you able to post pics here? I also had trouble with my strap, I cut it and moved the top and bottom straps closer together, Mrs. sewed it and that helped me.

you have to become a member, then you can post links to pics hosted elsewhere.

I actually sewed my headgear to make it fit my smaller head. It took an act of G-d to get Crapria to send me smaller headgear and it was still too big.

LOL. Reading some of the solutions in this thread has me envisioning other more creative solutions:

One idea is to wear a strap around your neck and then use suspenders that connect the headgear to the strap! This should be very functional if you can get used to the strap around your neck. Some might even find it kinda sexy.

Another idea is to let your hair grow and put it in a pony-tale before bed. If strung-through the headgear straps, the pony tale should act to keep them in place for the night.

Actually, I too suffer from this problem of ride-up with my Activa LT mask. Typically, I just live with it. A semi conscious tug easily pulls it back into place in the same way that I need to flip the position of the hose whenever I roll over.

BTW, this issue of ride-up is a major contributing reason that I've never liked nasal pillow masks. My experience with nasal pillow masks is that they are far too sensitive to positioning of the pillows. The Activa LT is much more forgiving.