Cheapest CPAP Option For The (Effectively) Uninsured

palerider wrote:

Drowsy Dancer wrote:I've recently had two people tell me "that S9 vpap auto is soooo smoooooth!" after being used to a prs1 560 machine.

You're making it sound like a switch to vaping after rolling one's own.

Drowsy Dancer wrote:However, I'm Autoset-curious (EPR might feel better than Flex+, e.g.)

If you like AFlex...I would be really surprised if you didn't love EPR. When I got my first S9 it was the VPAP Auto which of course has the 2 bilevel modes but it also had the cpap mode so I tested cpap mode with EPR...it's pretty sweet.
Since EPR won't go higher than 3 cm (and I found I prefer a 4 to 5 cm difference) I did a trial in fixed bilevel mode with PS set to 3 just to see how it compared to cpap mode at 3 EPR and I really couldn't tell any real difference. Maybe a little bit of difference in the timing of the drop in pressure but not enough for it to be a make it or break it thing and for all I know it could have all been in my head.

Just wait until you get like me and start getting curious about the bilevels and the ultimate bilevel...the ASV type.

palerider wrote:I've recently had two people tell me "that S9 vpap auto is soooo smoooooth!" after being used to a prs1 560 machine.

they can step forward and comment if they like

I know TL was one...I knew she would love it.
The PR S1 BiPaps are just as smooth IMHO.

Pugsy wrote:

Drowsy Dancer wrote:However, I'm Autoset-curious (EPR might feel better than Flex+, e.g.)

If you like AFlex...I would be really surprised if you didn't love EPR.

Doggone it, now I have to learn another product line from another manufacturer. On the plus side, the skins available for the S9s are much prettier.

Drowsy Dancer wrote:

Pugsy wrote:

Drowsy Dancer wrote:However, I'm Autoset-curious (EPR might feel better than Flex+, e.g.)

If you like AFlex...I would be really surprised if you didn't love EPR.

Doggone it, now I have to learn another product line from another manufacturer. On the plus side, the skins available for the S9s are much prettier.

well, I'm pretty good with the resmed s9 and up line, I'll be happy to answer any questions.

palerider wrote:

Drowsy Dancer wrote:

Pugsy wrote:

Drowsy Dancer wrote:However, I'm Autoset-curious (EPR might feel better than Flex+, e.g.)

If you like AFlex...I would be really surprised if you didn't love EPR.

Doggone it, now I have to learn another product line from another manufacturer. On the plus side, the skins available for the S9s are much prettier.

well, I'm pretty good with the resmed s9 and up line, I'll be happy to answer any questions.

What's a fair price for an Airsense 10/For Her peddled on Craigslist? Hose may or may not be Climateline (I have to check CPAP.com to see what the Climateline fitting looks like).

InsomniacGuy wrote:So, about those Craigslist machine transactions, I'm finding that when I email people directly about smoking in the home, I often don't get an answer. They'll answer other questions, just not that one. Actually, the other question that is avoided is regarding amount of use. Avoiding questions is probably a red flag.

Is there any chance someone is selling me a rental? I see photos showing the machine with a sticker label on it -- maybe from the DME?

Re: Rental

DME's very often put a sticker on the machine even if it's a straight purchase. Also, most insurance requires rent to own for a few months. They want you to think of them for supplies and like you to think they own the machine (and you) even if they don't.

Anything is possible in terms of it being a multiple use rental, stolen, or smoking household, even if they say it isn't.

Other than smoking, too many hours, and a broken machine, it doesn't matter too much. The machine itself doesn't really tend to pick up and spread germs.

You might get someone else's machine that's still on rental. However, that should be their problem, not yours, unless you happen to take it back to the same DME for service.

Go somewhere with AC power, their house, hopefully, and know how to turn it on and check the correct actual usage hours. Resmed and Respironics machines have a non-resettable number of hours. Be sure it works and smell the air for smoker smell.

Drowsy Dancer wrote:What's a fair price for an S10/For Her peddled on Craigslist? Hose may or may not be Climateline (I have to check CPAP.com to see what the Climateline fitting looks like).

stlmark is selling a non-for her autoset for 675.

the climateline is a 90 degree fitting... so it sticks out sideways, instead if straight out the back.

*raises hand* I'm guilty. I hopped to the other side of the tracks. Don't get me wrong...the PRS1 60 series is a FINE machine. But I got curious...and...well...grayghost4 had this supercoolnifty S9 VPAP for sale and....well, damn...Im a believer (not to be confused with a belieber) now. Smoother breath changes than a newborn frog's butt...PR and Pugsy were right. But shhhh...don't tell them I said so.

Thanks, folks, for the helpful tips! Hadn't even thought of checking the humidifier...!

Tatooed Lady wrote:*raises hand* I'm guilty. I hopped to the other side of the tracks. Don't get me wrong...the PRS1 60 series is a FINE machine. But I got curious...and...well...grayghost4 had this supercoolnifty S9 VPAP for sale and....well, damn...Im a believer (not to be confused with a belieber) now. Smoother breath changes than a newborn frog's butt...PR and Pugsy were right. But shhhh...don't tell them I said so.

S of 9, tertiary adjunct of ResMatrix 10 says, "airway resistance is futile, you will be ventilated."

I admit I've become one with the ResBorg as well. However, I still say PRS1 vs. ResMed doesn't have a clear winner.

archangle wrote: I still say PRS1 vs. ResMed doesn't have a clear winner.

My thoughts also. Minor pros and cons differences but nothing that is a deal maker or breaker IMHO when it comes to cpap/apap.
For people with higher pressure needs who might benefit from exhale relief I think that ResMed might have a slight advantage because of the way EPR works....but not everyone needs or wants exhale relief.

The differences are even less once we step up to the bilevel devices (at least the plain non ASV type of devices).

In defense of the prs1 560 (even though PR says it damages my ResMed snob cred), my comparison is kind of apples to kumquats...the Respironics was an auto set, the ResMed is a bilevel autoset. Maybe the Resp bilevel would blow my mind, too.

Tatooed Lady wrote:In defense of the prs1 560 (even though PR says it damages my ResMed snob cred), my comparison is kind of apples to kumquats...the Respironics was an auto set, the ResMed is a bilevel autoset. Maybe the Resp bilevel would blow my mind, too.

I suspect that the Respironcs bilevel would also have blown your mind. I went from a model 550 (before the 60 series was released) to the 650 Respronics BiPap Pro (my first bilevel experiment) and when I tried that first 650...it took me all of about 15 seconds to say "I gotta get me one of these"....I was testing a used machine for a friend to make sure it was working properly.
I secretly hoped she would hate it so I could get it back but she told me over her dead body after her first night with it.
So then I had to go find my own.

Pugsy wrote:

archangle wrote: I still say PRS1 vs. ResMed doesn't have a clear winner.

My thoughts also. Minor pros and cons differences but nothing that is a deal maker or breaker IMHO when it comes to cpap/apap.
For people with higher pressure needs who might benefit from exhale relief I think that ResMed might have a slight advantage because of the way EPR works....but not everyone needs or wants exhale relief.

The differences are even less once we step up to the bilevel devices (at least the plain non ASV type of devices).

even me, a diehard resmed fanboy admits that my reasons for preferring resmed are just nitpicks.

though I think that the Ti control and trigger/cycle control on the bilevels from resmed trumps the variable ps on respironics... at least for people who aren't close to the middle of the bell curve.