Vitamin B-12

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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by archangle » Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:55 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:
BlackSpinner wrote: . . . The only way to get B12 naturally is by eating meat and other animal products.
I wonder how much meat and what kind. I love beef!
Don't worry. Flies are an excellent source of B-12.

- B12 Overdose

My understanding is that the body usually doesn't have a problem with excess B-12 unless you go really nutzo on the megavitamins. Some people with certain medical conditions may need to be more careful about excess vitamin B12.

Wikipedia has a fairly good article on B-12.

BTW, while B-12 is pretty safe, some other vitamins have bad side effects if you take too much. Some are REALLY serious if you OD too much.

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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by LSAT » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:09 pm

Jay Aitchsee wrote:
LSAT wrote:I think a reading of over 95 is considered very high and should be a warning to stop any supplements.
LSAT, could you provide a reference please? What units of measure are you referring to in "over 95"?
For comparison, see the references earlier provided by myself and JDS74
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency ... 003705.htm
http://www.mayomedicallaboratories.com/ ... etive/9154[/quote

Sorry...I meant 950...not 95

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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by postitnote » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:12 pm

Good Lord, I need to call my doctor's office and find out what my last B12 reading was. Did I mention I think my doctor may have passed his boards by the skin of his teeth? I really need a new doctor but don't want to to through the process of finding one. The last ENDO I saw insisted I had to go on BP and cholesterol meds before seeing my test results. I refused and of course my results back me up.
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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by Julie » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:18 pm

I suggest you all do some googling because it's almost impossible to have too much B12 - literally. Nothing will happen if you take a regulated dose.

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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by LSAT » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:44 pm

Julie wrote:I suggest you all do some googling because it's almost impossible to have too much B12 - literally. Nothing will happen if you take a regulated dose.

http://abouttesting.testcountry.com/201 ... -b-12.html

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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by Bill44133 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:57 pm

I found this interest reach article on B-12 it says: High Levels of Vitamin B12 May Be Linked To Increased Cancer Risk
it is from November 2013.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/high-levels ... isk-263123

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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by palerider » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:58 pm

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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by Julie » Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:11 pm

You (not PR tho') find me legitimate medical journal articles (like those from NIH, Lancet, etc) of the last decade that say B12 has an upper limit beyond which bad things will happen to you and I'll stop writing here for a week. Maybe even a month. How about forever?
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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by bwexler » Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:04 pm

I have been taking 1000 Mcg of B12 for almost 20 years. For the last 4+ years my blood test is off the charts at >2000 pg/ml.
I talked to my doctor about it at my last visit and he said he is unaware of any side effects of too much B12.
I am aware that too little B12 can be a problem. So I have no plans to reduce the dose any time this century.

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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by Morbius » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:06 am

Julie wrote:You (not PR tho') find me legitimate medical journal articles (like those from NIH, Lancet, etc) of the last decade that say B12 has an upper limit beyond which bad things will happen to you and I'll stop writing here for a week. Maybe even a month. How about forever?
http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/19/6/1632.full

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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by Huh? » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:13 am

Morbius wrote:
Julie wrote:You (not PR tho') find me legitimate medical journal articles (like those from NIH, Lancet, etc) of the last decade that say B12 has an upper limit beyond which bad things will happen to you and I'll stop writing here for a week. Maybe even a month. How about forever?
http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/19/6/1632.full

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Given current controversies over mandatory fortification, further research is needed to determine whether these are causal associations.
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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by Morbius » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:14 am

Huh? wrote:
Morbius wrote:
Julie wrote:You (not PR tho') find me legitimate medical journal articles (like those from NIH, Lancet, etc) of the last decade that say B12 has an upper limit beyond which bad things will happen to you and I'll stop writing here for a week. Maybe even a month. How about forever?
http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/19/6/1632.full

Bye!
Given current controversies over mandatory fortification, further research is needed to determine whether these are causal associations.
Bye!
Damn!

I was really hoping you were dead!

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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by Morbius » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:21 am

Morbius wrote:
Huh? wrote:
Morbius wrote:
Julie wrote:You (not PR tho') find me legitimate medical journal articles (like those from NIH, Lancet, etc) of the last decade that say B12 has an upper limit beyond which bad things will happen to you and I'll stop writing here for a week. Maybe even a month. How about forever?
http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/19/6/1632.full

Bye!
Given current controversies over mandatory fortification, further research is needed to determine whether these are causal associations.
Bye!
Damn!

I was really hoping you were dead!
And maybe if you read (you DFB) you'd see that:
The only studies to date of dietary B12 intake and prostate cancer risk both reported positive associations: Vlajinac et al. (12) found 2-fold higher odds (OR = 2.07; 95% CI, 1.08-3.97; Ptrend = 0.02) for the highest versus lowest tertile, and Weinstein et al. (among smokers; ref. 14) found 36% higher odds in the highest versus lowest quintile (OR = 1.36; 95% CI, 1.14-1.62; Ptrend = 0.01). Both studies reported that these results withstood adjustment for dietary covariates: Vlajinac et al. (12) for intake of total energy, protein, total fat, saturated fatty acids, carbohydrate, total sugar, fiber, retinol equivalent, α-tocopherol, folate, sodium, potassium, calcium, phosphorus, magnesium, and iron, and Weinstein et al. (14) for total energy, total protein, animal protein, total fat, animal fat, folate, B6, methionine, iron, and specific foods that are correlates of B12 intake (fish, organ meats, sausages, cholesterol, fatty acids, vitamins, and minerals). Hence, there was no confounding by other nutrients that cooccur in foods high in B12 and which may be associated with prostate cancer risk. Both studies also adjusted for nondietary covariates.

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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:26 am

Additionally, an older (2001) study concluded that the combination of folate, vitamin B6, and vitamin B12 for the reduction of homocysteine had a detrimental effect on the prevention of restenosis after stent implantation for the treatment of coronary artery disease, leading to at least one of the cautions listed here: http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplem ... b-20060243

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Re: Vitamin B-12

Post by Julie » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:28 am

Thanks, learn something new every day!

PS - Will never visit this thread again.