New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside compatible with SleepyHead

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New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside compatible with SleepyHead

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:17 am

Woodinblack has just posted a beta version of a Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside units. I've been working with it for a while and I think it's very good. It is based on the 30 sec hypnogram rather than the 5 min hypnogram of the old Zeo, so it offers a little more detail. It also offers a number of views presenting historical statistical data in a variety of selectable ways. The monitor is designed for both windows and mac applications and I have tested it on Win 7. The author states it will display both encrypted and decrypted Zeosleep.dat file data, although I have only used it with decrypted.

See a thread about it here: https://forum.quantifiedself.com/thread ... ep-monitor

See the author's comments and download it here: http://www.alienrat.net/software/zeomonitor.html

edit 11/06/2014: Now compatible with SleepyHead. See: Compatible

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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by Cowboy Casey » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:00 am

Question for you? Do you have to buy new headbands or can you use the one that comes with it?

Interesting...
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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:49 pm

Cowboy Casey wrote:Question for you? Do you have to buy new headbands or can you use the one that comes with it?
If you have a bedside unit, the headband that came with it will work unless it has been damaged or the sensors pads are worn out. If the sensor pads are worn out, there are a couple of suggestions on the web for DIY replacement.
Note that this viewer is not intended to work with Zeo mobile units.

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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by Cowboy Casey » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:53 pm

Thanks Jay, I found one of the bedside units on amazon But I read the "headband" may have to be replaced and I was wondering if it was worth it.... Thanks, I will do some research..
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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:09 pm

Yes, it can be a little confusing. The "headband", if you will, is actually two pieces. A hard plastic piece (transmitter) which contains a rechargeable battery and the electronics to transmit data to the bedside unit and a soft elastic head band which has snaps with which to connect to the transmitter and cloth sensors with which pick up the signals from the forehead.
When Zeo was a going concern, replacing the headband usually meant just replacing the soft part which included the sensors. Over time (3 months plus), the cloth sensors begin to loose the ability to pickup the brainwaves from the forehead. Replacement headbands (just the soft part with sensors) were relatively inexpensive, IIRC, about $10 apiece and, for most people, lasted far longer than the 90 days recommended by Zeo. Mine, for example, always last at least 6 months before I replace them.
The typical life of the transmitter is unknown. I've had mine since 2011 and it's still working fine. Eventually, I suppose, the battery will loose the ability to recharge and I'm not sure it could be replaced. So far, I've not heard of anyone replacing one.

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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:21 am

Jay Aitchsee wrote:Woodinblack has just posted a beta version of a Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside units. I've been working with it for a while and I think it's very good. It is based on the 30 sec hypnogram rather than the 5 min hypnogram of the old Zeo, so it offers a little more detail. It also offers a number of views presenting historical statistical data in a variety of selectable ways. The monitor is designed for both windows and mac applications and I have tested it on Win 7. The author states it will display both encrypted and decrypted Zeosleep.dat file data, although I have only used it with decrypted.

See a thread about it here: https://forum.quantifiedself.com/thread ... ep-monitor

See the author's comments and download it here: http://www.alienrat.net/software/zeomonitor.html
In case you missed it the first time around. This viewer works great! It's a test build, but pretty full featured. If you have a bedside unit, you should try it. It will read both encrypted and decrypted data so you don't have to fool with Bedside firmware updates and you don't need Java!

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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:32 am

Jay Aitchsee wrote:
Jay Aitchsee wrote:Woodinblack has just posted a beta version of a Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside units. I've been working with it for a while and I think it's very good. It is based on the 30 sec hypnogram rather than the 5 min hypnogram of the old Zeo, so it offers a little more detail. It also offers a number of views presenting historical statistical data in a variety of selectable ways. The monitor is designed for both windows and mac applications and I have tested it on Win 7. The author states it will display both encrypted and decrypted Zeosleep.dat file data, although I have only used it with decrypted.

See a thread about it here: https://forum.quantifiedself.com/thread ... ep-monitor

See the author's comments and download it here: http://www.alienrat.net/software/zeomonitor.html
In case you missed it the first time around. This viewer works great! It's a test build, but pretty full featured. If you have a bedside unit, you should try it. It will read both encrypted and decrypted data so you don't have to fool with Bedside firmware updates and you don't need Java!
New version, 0.2.6, now available @ http://www.alienrat.net/software/zeomonitor.html

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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:52 am

For wilsonintexas:
After installing the viewer, go to file > export records > select CSV and date range, if desired > export > designate a location and file name for the exported file and save. The saved file will be in nearly the same format as that originally exported by the Zeo website.
(EDIT) I see you got this, but I'll leave it in case anybody else is interested.

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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by wilsonintexas » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:34 pm

I just uploaded that version yesterday and it works great. (I upgraded my firmware to have unencrypted files..... but that is ok)

I

problem with the csv file, it crashes sleepyhead...upgraded it to veersion (0.9.6) and it still crashes.. I think it is the 30 second data vs the 5 minute data........

I sent a pm to the sleepy head author on another forum to see if he can get it in his que to update, but have not heard back.

It would be really nice to upload my zeo data, 02, and machine data all at once...... sleepy head use to be do it, but the change is not his fault.

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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by palerider » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:40 pm

wilsonintexas wrote:with the csv file, it crashes sleepyhead...upgraded it to veersion (0.9.6) and it still crashes.. I think it is the 30 second data vs the 5 minute data........
0.9.6 is old, and unsupported.

try 0.9.8-1 or better.

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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:06 pm

wilsonintexas wrote:It would be really nice to upload my zeo data, 02, and machine data all at once...... sleepy head use to be do it, but the change is not his fault.
Yeah, I followed up on your post on the other site. I haven't gone back and checked to see if SleepyHead chokes on the original CSV, now. I've only been using Sleepyhead (9.6) for a little while since my equipment wasn't compatible and I've gone completely to this new viewer. I know it chokes on it this CSV output. I'm sure SleepyHead is looking for the 5 min hypnogram and when it doesn't find it, it crashes.
It would seem it would be fairly simple to use the 30 sec hypnogram instead of the 5 minute - just more data points, but then, I'm not a programmer. It would be nice if Mark could work it in, but I know he is busy and I don't know how many are still using their Zeo. As I mentioned on the other site, I did send him samples of the old and new CSV files so he could take a look. I'm like you, I think it would be great if he could do it.
When Woody was working on his viewer, I asked if he could provide a CSV output to match the original in the hope Mark could incorporate it into SleepyHead. I think he came pretty close. At the same time, I sent Woody a SleepyHead CSV to see if he could incorporate it into the viewer. I know he's working on being able to import data to be able to display along with the hypnogram, but I'm not sure where he's at with that. One thing though, his viewer is really great compared to what we had.

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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by wilsonintexas » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:11 pm

just upgraded sleepyhead to 0.9.8.1 and same result, sleepyhead does not like the 30 second data in the csv file.... I like the look of 9.8.1

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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by palerider » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:01 pm

wilsonintexas wrote:just upgraded sleepyhead to 0.9.8.1 and same result, sleepyhead does not like the 30 second data in the csv file.... I like the look of 9.8.1
now, that warrents a bug report

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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by wilsonintexas » Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:58 pm

I thought that this was a test version and that bugs could only br reported by the beta group.........
(I am half serious) If I need to submit a bug report, where or how should I do it?

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Re: New Zeo Sleep Monitor for Bedside Units

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Thu Nov 06, 2014 6:55 pm

See this thread to use this Viewer with SleepyHead: Compatible

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