Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by macewa » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:07 pm

It might be, --- my computer printer's manual said the same thing, but I had no choice but to plug it in a surge protector with a bunch of other things (computer, monitor, etc) and and so far it's part of a group now without any problems. Tomorrow I will ask my DME. I live in an old house and only the living room has been upgrade with electrical sockets. Plugging things in around here is a challenge. I have plugged the consentrator in another room. So the problem is resolved for tonight.

Thanks for your input.
Slinky wrote:Check your manuals. I've read that we should NOT put our CPAPs (or concentrators) on a surge bar. I'm not sure which it was we aren't supposed to use a surge bar for but I'm pretty sure it is our CPAPs. Its in the manual.

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by Madalot » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:37 am

I just noticed this thread and thought it might be relevant for me to share (re-share) my setup.

Because I sleep during the day and HATE getting back into bed, my husband has all my equipment on a rolling cart. We have a power strip on it and everything is plugged into that - my ventilator, oxygen concentrator, ipod docking station (I sometimes listen to music when I nap) --

My DME has seen this and said it's fine.

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by ChrisT » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:46 am

Slinky,

In my manual I only find two references: One states don't plug the BIPAP into an outlet controlled by a light switch. The 2nd states don't use extension cords. A surge progtector is not the same thing as an extension cord. If I don't use a surge protector the BIPAP will fry when we have outages and surges. We have lost many appliances to such here in the mountains.
Also I did find a reference to unplugging the oxygen before turning off machine....and turning on machine before turning on oxygen. There is also a Respironics one way valve available for protection from a backup of oxygen in the machine. I am asking my medical equipment provider about that. I don't have any additional information about the concentrator but again will ask my supplier.

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by ChrisT » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:11 am

Madalot,

Thanks for the picture! This is a wonderful idea. I love the portability.

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by davidtc1@sbcglobal.net » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:47 pm

I have a Bipap machine and I was sleeping with just the machine , however I did not seem to get the so that I needed . I tried to hook it up to the Quarto full mask but it didn't seem to work . I then used the o2 with the standard hose to the nose with the mask over it . It is better but air leaks wake me up . What can I do . The hi pressure on my Bipap is set at 22 . Any suggestions ?

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by palerider » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:58 pm

davidtc1@sbcglobal.net wrote:I have a Bipap machine and I was sleeping with just the machine , however I did not seem to get the so that I needed . I tried to hook it up to the Quarto full mask but it didn't seem to work . I then used the o2 with the standard hose to the nose with the mask over it . It is better but air leaks wake me up . What can I do . The hi pressure on my Bipap is set at 22 . Any suggestions ?
you use an o2 inline port, or you use the ports on your mask, that's what they're there for, or, if you had one of the many resmed s9 models, you could get a climateline max with o2 port built into the hose.

all methods are better than sticing a hose through the mask seal, and none of them affect the o2 flow, which you can verify on the o2 concentrator flowmeter.

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by JDS74 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:24 am

Just checked on my provider manual and the following comment is made:
• When using oxygen with this system, a Respironics Pressure Valve must be placed in-line with the patient circuit between the device and the oxygen source. The pressure valve helps prevent the backflow of oxygen from the patient circuit into the device when the unit is off. Failure to use the pressure valve could result in a fire hazard.

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by palerider » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:05 pm

JDS74 wrote:Just checked on my provider manual and the following comment is made:
• When using oxygen with this system, a Respironics Pressure Valve must be placed in-line with the patient circuit between the device and the oxygen source. The pressure valve helps prevent the backflow of oxygen from the patient circuit into the device when the unit is off. Failure to use the pressure valve could result in a fire hazard.
another small plus in my book for resmed which doesn't recommend adding another doodah.

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by JDS74 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:55 pm

In 2003, ResMed received initial approval from the FDA for a "Oxygen Diverter Valve" which has as it function the prevention of backflow of oxygen and / or water into the cpap machine during times in which the cpap machine if off.
Here is a link to the doodad in question.
http://www.resmed.com/uk/assets/documen ... ow_eng.pdf

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by palerider » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:47 pm

JDS74 wrote:In 2003, ResMed received initial approval from the FDA for a "Oxygen Diverter Valve" which has as it function the prevention of backflow of oxygen and / or water into the cpap machine during times in which the cpap machine if off.
Here is a link to the doodad in question.
http://www.resmed.com/uk/assets/documen ... ow_eng.pdf


that's nice, so?

as long as we're doing archaeological digs of irevelant documents, have at page 5 on this one

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by BleepingBeauty » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:21 pm

ChrisT wrote:My doctor ordered 2L of O2 to be added to my BIPAP. Long story short I have the connector and tubing and concentrator to do this but am not sure if the connector should go between my mask and tubing or between my machine's humidifier and tubing.
Also how long can the O2 connector cord be? I like having the concentrator in the living room not my bedroom so it doesn't make so much noise.
I've been on supplemental O2 with my xPAP for a few years now. I keep the concentrator in my bedroom, as I don't mind the noise, but you can attach a long piece of O2 tubing and keep it in another room without a problem.

I have my O2 adapter on the humidifier output (between that and my hose) and have never had a problem with it. I don't have anything else attached to my system regarding the O2. (FWIW, I tend to "walk on the wild side" when it comes to my therapy and don't pay much attention to what I consider to be overkill warnings about doing this or that. I'm not stupid; just reasonable. )
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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by squid13 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:35 pm

If your using an S9 you can use the heated hose with the oxygen port built into it. https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... rt-S9.html

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by archangle » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:18 pm

Slinky wrote:Check your manuals. I've read that we should NOT put our CPAPs (or concentrators) on a surge bar. I'm not sure which it was we aren't supposed to use a surge bar for but I'm pretty sure it is our CPAPs. Its in the manual.
That's probably out of lawyerly concerns about someone turning off the power strip, the breaker tripping, the cord getting pulled out, someone tripping over the cord, etc.

As for hooking up oxygen, there is some fire risk if you don't do it right. There can even be problems like Vaseline on your face combusting, so let the "pros" do your oxygen setup. Unfortunately, the O2 DME isn't the one who burns to death, so it doesn't hurt to learn a little bit about O2 therapy yourself.

Do pay attention to the fire hazard warnings, especially about smoking. Even after you turn of the O2 wait a few minutes before playing with fire. You might even have O2 buildup in your hair, clothes, bedding, etc.

The long hose on the O2 line probably won't make much difference other than as a trip hazard, or risk of getting it pinched and cutting off airflow.

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Re: Where to add oxygen to BIPAP

Post by archangle » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:21 pm

squid13 wrote:If your using an S9 you can use the heated hose with the oxygen port built into it. https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... rt-S9.html
Neat. I wonder if it has a check valve in it?

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