Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by Rob108 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:58 pm

Todzo... If you feel the need to help Dotyj so badly do it. No one has any control over your opening your wallet. You seem to want to link the majority of apnea suffers with also being afflicted with altzheimers. Where is YOUR data? (you posed this question to me on another matter) .
From dotyj's other thread postings on this forum they seem to have quite a bit of free time to allot to forum surfing. Oh just so you don't say I do the same.... I am retired (Involuntary through downsizing) I actively contributed to FICA for a couple of months longer than 45 years ever since I worked on a farm permit picking apples. It is not my first time around so I've found through empirical observation if it sounds like a con it usually is. Perhaps dotyj is real. I personally don't believe they are. My take, and no matter how much you try to make me believe by disparaging me through sparky innuendo it's not going to work.

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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by dotyj » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:17 pm

Bonsoir.

I am happy with the help I did not think to find here in this forum.

Being a Christian is faith based. I find my faith is that of a child and that is the strongest faith there is.
It is right that I forgive and have no animosity for those that would twist the truth of things.

No church in this world defines my faith what defines my faith is my love for you all and if I can help you I will.

No matter how you twist the word of Jesus or the holy spirit the truth is with me and my faith shall be my shoes in the snow; my coat in the winter wind.

So many of our sisters and brothers twist the old testament to fit their arguments. Had they faith and read the new testament you would know the laws of Moses became obsolete with the birth of Christ. It is right that you believe in what you want and God gave us the choice of making our own choice of paths in our lives.

I can no more change your mind with proof of what you will still deny as I can change the course of a river with my hand.

I did share with all of you my truth and take it for what you will. I will shake the sand/dust from my feet and move on.

I hope you, with no faith, can find it within yourselves to learn that you do not always need to see to find the truth of things.

Good luck to you. I will not subject you to something you will not believe any longer and with that I will bid farewell.

Faith of a child is the strongest faith in the universe. Remember when you had faith as a child and lost your innocence and faith?

Merci!

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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by Todzo » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:28 pm

Christine L wrote:
dotyj wrote:

Jesus tells us in the new testament to take care of the poor without question.

There are good people here on this forum the are with faith and do not judge me so. I thank then with all my heart for their help.

accept those that ask for help without question.
“Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”

You should seek help from those locally who can judge whether you are legitimate or just a moocher or joker.
I agree with you about local involvement and the need to see and hear to verify[1].

I think I should also make it clear that the executive functioning “muscles” I mentioned are indeed like muscles in that they do “recover”. But it depends on load. I mean the load of the last month, week, day, and hour. Diet is involved, exercise is involved, and the quality of sleep is very involved as well as the general health of the rest of the body.

Some days I get a lot done. Others I do not make it out of the house. The biggest problem is that I really cannot predict how I will be at any given time.

Well I would love to post more but I really need to get to the gym. Right now I consider my “job” getting better.

Take care!

Todzo


[1]: From another post:

Trust but verify.

Work with someone long distance – eyes, ears, nose, feet on the ground. You absolutely must find someone to vet the person in person!!

From my experience:

First choice – Salvation Army – best of the best no contest!!!

Second choice – Find a local mosque, synagogue, or church (or whatever) from your own familiarity and work with the local leadership and congregation.

Third (and distant) choice – local social worker government program connected.

First confirm the person (or people) you are working with independently – then let them vet the person face to face.

Truly there are people much closer to you that you should be helping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The greatest “time of need” for the up North poor begins January 1. the Holidays are over so people forget them. But it is the coldest time of year, the missions are full, and there is little help. Want to help the poor. Sign up locally when you are most the needed. Jan to April. Go for it!!
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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by Todzo » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:56 pm

49er wrote:
Jos,

I wanted with all my heart to believe your story in spite of the facts that were telling me that I shouldn't. I reread the thread several times in the hopes that I would prove everyone wrong and that I would be right as that is how desperate I was to want to think that you were telling the truth. Unfortunately, that was not to be.

I wish you nothing but the best.

49er
Ya know I see no reason to make such a judgment. I see an opportunity to bring up and start to deal with the issues that the many who are homeless with Sleep Disordered Breathing deal with and make others aware.

Indeed, before I would dare to make such a judgment I would need to place eyes on the ground as I have mentioned[1]. I believe that to do any less would amount to a lack of due diligence which could cause this individual harm. It might well turn out to be libel from me!! Perhaps his family would be right to seek help for his funeral from me!!

We are certainly good at oppressing our poor in America. I wish we would stop that!!!


[1]: From another post:

Trust but verify.

Work with someone long distance – eyes, ears, nose, feet on the ground. You absolutely must find someone to vet the person in person!!

From my experience:

First choice – Salvation Army – best of the best no contest!!!

Second choice – Find a local mosque, synagogue, or church (or whatever) from your own familiarity and work with the local leadership and congregation.

Third (and distant) choice – local social worker government program connected.

First confirm the person (or people) you are working with independently – then let them vet the person face to face.

Truly there are people much closer to you that you should be helping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The greatest “time of need” for the up North poor begins January 1. the Holidays are over so people forget them. But it is the coldest time of year, the missions are full, and there is little help. Want to help the poor. Sign up locally when you are most the needed. Jan to April. Go for it!!
May any shills trolls sockpuppets or astroturfers at cpaptalk.com be like chaff before the wind!

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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by Todzo » Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:01 pm

Todzo wrote:
Christine L wrote:
dotyj wrote:

Jesus tells us in the new testament to take care of the poor without question.

There are good people here on this forum the are with faith and do not judge me so. I thank then with all my heart for their help.

accept those that ask for help without question.
“Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”

You should seek help from those locally who can judge whether you are legitimate or just a moocher or joker.
I agree with you about local involvement and the need to see and hear to verify[1].

I think I should also make it clear that the executive functioning “muscles” I mentioned are indeed like muscles in that they do “recover”. But it depends on load. I mean the load of the last month, week, day, and hour. Diet is involved, exercise is involved, and the quality of sleep is very involved as well as the general health of the rest of the body.

Some days I get a lot done. Others I do not make it out of the house. The biggest problem is that I really cannot predict how I will be at any given time.

Well I would love to post more but I really need to get to the gym. Right now I consider my “job” getting better.

Take care!

Todzo


[1]: From another post:

Trust but verify.

Work with someone long distance – eyes, ears, nose, feet on the ground. You absolutely must find someone to vet the person in person!!

From my experience:

First choice – Salvation Army – best of the best no contest!!!

Second choice – Find a local mosque, synagogue, or church (or whatever) from your own familiarity and work with the local leadership and congregation.

Third (and distant) choice – local social worker government program connected.

First confirm the person (or people) you are working with independently – then let them vet the person face to face.

Truly there are people much closer to you that you should be helping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The greatest “time of need” for the up North poor begins January 1. the Holidays are over so people forget them. But it is the coldest time of year, the missions are full, and there is little help. Want to help the poor. Sign up locally when you are most the needed. Jan to April. Go for it!!
OOPS! my previous post. I got distracted. Some days I do not get back to the original thing I intended to do. Distraction is a real problem - a large part of the FOCUS I often do not have.

OK now -- off to the GYM!!!
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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by ems » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:13 pm

Just received a PM from someone on the Forum who said that around 4:30 today Dotyj was on line. Of course, he was in the snow and had the computer plugged into a tree.
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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by rosacer » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:56 pm

Big joke

Adieu ! Jos.

p.s I noticed he likes French

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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by Todzo » Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:36 am

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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by 49er » Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:55 am

Todzo,

Doubting the story of someone who posts on an Internet Forum is not bullying since none of us have threatened, coerced, intimidated or abused this person. There have been many reasonable questions asked in which the OP has avoided answering.

To imply that if he commits suicide because of us doubting his story is extremely outrageous and unfair. And by the way, people of varying political beliefs have come to the same conclusion that this story has holes in case you didn't notice that.

Additionally, for once, I would love to see you walk away from a thread without the need to have the last word in a heated discussion. I find it very upsetting that you always have to chime in last and be the person who always one ups the last poster.

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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by Stormynights » Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:57 am

This thread is breaking my heart. No one knows for sure what is really going on here. Either he is a real scumbag or a person really in a bad situation. I wish I could just quit clicking on it and quit reading all of this. What is wrong with me?

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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by Todzo » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:01 am

Stormynights wrote:This thread is breaking my heart. No one knows for sure what is really going on here. Either he is a real scumbag or a person really in a bad situation. I wish I could just quit clicking on it and quit reading all of this. What is wrong with me?
likely you have a heart and hate oppression as i do
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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by 49er » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:06 am

Stormynights wrote:This thread is breaking my heart. No one knows for sure what is really going on here. Either he is a real scumbag or a person really in a bad situation. I wish I could just quit clicking on it and quit reading all of this. What is wrong with me?
Hi Stormy,

Nothing is wrong with you at all as I think you are engaging in normal behavior.

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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by Todzo » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:12 am

49er wrote:
Todzo,

Doubting the story of someone who posts on an Internet Forum is not bullying since none of us have threatened, coerced, intimidated or abused this person. There have been many reasonable questions asked in which the OP has avoided answering.

To imply that if he commits suicide because of us doubting his story is extremely outrageous and unfair. And by the way, people of varying political beliefs have come to the same conclusion that this story has holes in case you didn't notice that.

Additionally, for once, I would love to see you walk away from a thread without the need to have the last word in a heated discussion. I find it very upsetting that you always have to chime in last and be the person who always one ups the last poster.

49er
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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by 49er » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:24 am

Todzo wrote:
49er wrote:
Todzo,

Doubting the story of someone who posts on an Internet Forum is not bullying since none of us have threatened, coerced, intimidated or abused this person. There have been many reasonable questions asked in which the OP has avoided answering.

To imply that if he commits suicide because of us doubting his story is extremely outrageous and unfair. And by the way, people of varying political beliefs have come to the same conclusion that this story has holes in case you didn't notice that.

Additionally, for once, I would love to see you walk away from a thread without the need to have the last word in a heated discussion. I find it very upsetting that you always have to chime in last and be the person who always one ups the last poster.

49er
"Every man's way is right in his own eyes..."
You did it again Todzo, you just have to have the last word come heck or high water.

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Re: Homeless W/Severe Sleep Apnea

Post by Todzo » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:30 am

dotyj wrote:Bonjour good people.

I have been called may things in life such as the growing list of doubters here are doing.

I can not judge you for what you do and worry, for that burden is what my God and the Christ that died for my sins carry.

I attempt to share my life with you but you reject what is in front of your face as fact. I simply feel sorry and pray for your souls. How can I have anger with you my brothers and sisters?

Jesus tells us in the new testament to take care of the poor without question. It is for the final judgement of Jesus and not for man to punish those who deceive amongst other sins.
I am not without sin as I confess to my lord father.

My biological father resides in my heart and always a day would hand out to the poor in the life. He is gone some thirteen years now and I miss him so as he was the best of friend to me.

There are good people here on this forum the are with faith and do not judge me so. I thank then with all my heart for their help.

Something I learned as a child is that you must be willing to ask for help when needed to accept those that ask for help without question. In other words, you need to have not only a heart but an understanding of people and yourself.
Ignorance causes much grief in this world.

I think it is time to close this thread and move on. Maybe open a thread about deceit or is this it.

I want to thank those that trust and have a heart.

Thank you and peace (merci et paix).

jos
I have no desire to try to pick what you say apart and try to see if you are “real”. I can easily relate to much of what you say from my own homeless experience.

I do hope that you find a good space, a warm space, with the warmth of other people who love you strengthening your heart. May it be far away from all the haters out there.
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