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Updates: Please give initial feedback/ Sleep study failure

Post by marcnhl » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:47 am

UPDATE:

Guys, went for a 2nd study. ALSO slept like 3 hrs so they didn't titrate me (it was a split study).

The report should be in TODAY but they still told me some details on the phone: 6,7 events per hour, 17 per hour when in REM, and lowest oxygen 85%.

Just knowing that (will post details about report when I have those), do you believe that my symptoms (see below) could be relieved by CPAP, especially that 6.7/hr is considered borderline...??!!

Thanks, just looking for feedback! (so happy to at least have some results..)

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Hi guys,

My ENT refered me for a sleep study, having those symptoms:

extreme fatigue
depression for 2 months
waking up more fatigued than when going to bed
headaches
nasal congestion
deviated nose
sore throat
acid reflux

all blood tests were ok.

Went there last night. Slept only 2h00 total. Too nervous I guess. The lady told me that's not enough and I need to go back again....(they will cover the 2nd time).

Damn.

Could've she at least told me if she saw something or not during that 2h00...?! why not, it is frustrating
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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by oak » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:52 am

sorry to hear it went poorly. i am sure they will help you get to sleep with something like Ambien or Lunesta the next time.

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by marcnhl » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:54 am

I took (as usual) 25mg trazodone (I know it's not that much but usually it is, well at home).

I had to vent guys...

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by nanwilson » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:58 am

marcnhl wrote:I took (as usual) 25mg trazodone (I know it's not that much but usually it is, well at home).

I had to vent guys...
Sometimes being able to vent gets it off your chest and you feel better.... so vent away .
Started cpap in 2010.. still at it with great results.

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by marcnhl » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:01 am

nanwilson wrote:
marcnhl wrote:I took (as usual) 25mg trazodone (I know it's not that much but usually it is, well at home).

I had to vent guys...
Sometimes being able to vent gets it off your chest and you feel better.... so vent away .
so frustrating to go for 10hours there and go home to your wife saying...ill have to go back again..

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by chunkyfrog » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:03 am

Now that you are a little more familiar with the experience, it should be easier the second time around.
Additionally, check out the video -posted by our sponsors (and my favorite cpap supplier)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZTzrVGSOvw

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by Julie » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:04 am

Hi - I'm writing about the trazadone which was prescribed to me 25 yrs ago and which I only took for 2 wks because I ended up waking in the middle of the night with congestion and trouble breathing (known side effects). You might want to consider that though I don't otherwise know your history with it of course.

Acid reflux is present in very many people with apnea for reasons no one's sure about yet (lots of research being done), and can be addressed by raising the head of your bed 4-6" (no more) on bricks or something... works very well and is cheaper than all the prescription stuff.

Trazadone will also skew results of your sleep test I think so if you can get off it ahead of time you'll be doing yourself a favor... Ambien is what's used by most people for the test night if they're worried about staying asleep.

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by marcnhl » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:07 am

Julie wrote:Hi - I'm writing about the trazadone which was prescribed to me 25 yrs ago and which I only took for 2 wks because I ended up waking in the middle of the night with congestion and trouble breathing (known side effects). You might want to consider that though I don't otherwise know your history with it of course.

Acid reflux is present in very many people with apnea for reasons no one's sure about yet (lots of research being done), and can be addressed by raising the head of your bed 4-6" (no more) on bricks or something... works very well and is cheaper than all the prescription stuff.

Trazadone will also skew results of your sleep test I think so if you can get off it ahead of time you'll be doing yourself a favor... Ambien is what's used by most people for the test night if they're worried about staying asleep.
I am currently in depression (end of it). I don't think it is a good idea to stop it for the test...25mg is VERY Low dose, very. How much did you have?

Good advice for the acid reflux but my main problem is quality of sleep. I do NOT remember last time a night felt good in the morning...

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by oak » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:15 am

good luck with the next study. now you know what to expect. sounds like you are ready to make a commitment to CPAP, should that be the recommendation. can you get in soon for your sleep study? i got put on a wait list and got in a bit sooner when someone called and cancelled.

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by 49er » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:23 am

marcnhl wrote:
Julie wrote:Hi - I'm writing about the trazadone which was prescribed to me 25 yrs ago and which I only took for 2 wks because I ended up waking in the middle of the night with congestion and trouble breathing (known side effects). You might want to consider that though I don't otherwise know your history with it of course.

Acid reflux is present in very many people with apnea for reasons no one's sure about yet (lots of research being done), and can be addressed by raising the head of your bed 4-6" (no more) on bricks or something... works very well and is cheaper than all the prescription stuff.

Trazadone will also skew results of your sleep test I think so if you can get off it ahead of time you'll be doing yourself a favor... Ambien is what's used by most people for the test night if they're worried about staying asleep.
I am currently in depression (end of it). I don't think it is a good idea to stop it for the test...25mg is VERY Low dose, very. How much did you have?

Good advice for the acid reflux but my main problem is quality of sleep. I do NOT remember last time a night felt good in the morning...
Totally agree marcnhi. Cold turkeying an antidepressant is a very bad idea even if it would be on a temporary basis. Also, doing so could affect your ability to sleep which obviously is the last thing you need.

I do agree with the advice about possibly using Ambien if you're still concerned about not being able to sleep. Of course, check with your doctor about the feasibility of doing this.

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by marcnhl » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:41 am

oak wrote:good luck with the next study. now you know what to expect. sounds like you are ready to make a commitment to CPAP, should that be the recommendation. can you get in soon for your sleep study? i got put on a wait list and got in a bit sooner when someone called and cancelled.
Next app next tuesday

Omg i would jump on the cpap bandwagon so bad. The 2 last years have been awful.

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by Julie » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:31 am

I never said to go cold turkey! But what's stopping you from cutting back slowly?

GERD (acid reflux) can be 'silent', disturbing your sleep like mad but not waking you. Do you take anything for it? Even a Tums before bed?

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by marcnhl » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:37 am

Julie wrote:I never said to go cold turkey! But what's stopping you from cutting back slowly?

GERD (acid reflux) can be 'silent', disturbing your sleep like mad but not waking you. Do you take anything for it? Even a Tums before bed?
I can't really take less than 25mg a day, it's actually the smallest dose (50mg) cut in half I read somewhere that for depression they start around 150mg so my dose is really low. And if I stop, my doc wont be happy. And you dont want that when youre in depression (you need every help you can). BTW, it was identified as a ''severe'' depression, whatever it means

For GERD, I do not take anything as it comes and go (some nights worst then others). I just realized I was having that...so I didnt put too much effort on it yet.

So many symptoms, don't know what to think... What made me think sleep apnea is the ENT saying my tougue is large and deep, my nasal passages are narrow, deviated septum and that he wouldn't be surprised if I had apnea...that's when I thought it might be that. My focus is 100% on getting quality sleep, as it is real tough on my life for a long long time. I feel like I should just buy a used CPAP and try it but ill wait for my 2nd study....BTW I am regular weight if not skinny and I don't snore a lot...

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by renatae » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:00 pm

Hi, Julie, I'm wondering in what way you think Trazodone skews test results? I've been on it for many years due to fibromyalgia. So, in addition to OSA, I also have a delta sleep issue. Actually have missed taking it a lot lately and seem to be sleeping more deeply.

Chunkyfrog, thanks for the PM info! Tapatalk won't let me respond, instead giving me error messages and too rushed to fire up the old PC.

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Re: Sleep study failure

Post by 49er » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:23 pm

Julie wrote:I never said to go cold turkey! But what's stopping you from cutting back slowly?

GERD (acid reflux) can be 'silent', disturbing your sleep like mad but not waking you. Do you take anything for it? Even a Tums before bed?
I apologize as I reread your post and you weren't advocating that.

However, I am still not sure it is a good idea to start tapering a sleep med before a sleep study test, particularly since the next appointment is Tuesday. That is not enough time to do it even slowly.

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Edit - Sorry Julie, I am doing a bad job of reading your posts in this thread today. I reread about your breathing difficulties with Trazadone and wondered if that could be having an effect with sleep which is a good point.

Hopefully not but if that is an issue, marcnhi needs to check with his doctor. If not, then I would stand by my comment about not tapering the med until after the sleep study.
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