transport-sleep-apnea-scam

[Trudger]

Yes, I refused to do something not backed by any law, rule or regulation. How dare anyone tell me what medical treatment I am to take, when they are a f'ing sales rep with no f'ing medical qualifications, all in the name of a f'ing company policy. F them, and F anyone who would lie down and just let people trample them in the name of making a a f'ing buck or being a forerunner for some f'ing possible regulation changes, which will never happen.

I got my new medical qualification, by a real M.D., and am back on the road, happy as a clam. F that company and F the people with tiny minds.

[Todzo]

In a post by chunkyfrog on Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:52 am:

Trudger is gone.
The truth is a light bulb switching on; as the cockroaches scurry under the sofa.

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In a post this thread by Todzo on Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:47 am

Trudger wrote: I'm still here, I have thick skin. lol

Ah, the wild wild web. Were you you before? Are you you now?? We have no way of knowing.

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This is the wild wild web. Anyone can pose as anyone.

Are there 50 people regularly posting here - or - are there three who each pose as 10 and 20 others? We do not know.

[mollete]

You have said this a number of times in this thread, but I fail to follow your logic. Feel free to ignore all of the posts made here under the Trudger name and just read what he wrote on the trucker's site. What he wrote there contains all of the admissions of his bad intentions, his refusal, and his deception.

Well, he also wrote about having 10 jobs in 8 years, and any little thing that goes wrong it's always "them".

Since that boy's got a wife and kids, "IMHO" he needs to wise up and make a priority list.

If "Pride" or "Me" show up anywhere in the first 10 items, he don't need CPAP, he needs an attitude adjustment.

[pootsie]

Are there 50 people regularly posting here - or - are there three who each pose as 10 and 20 others? We do not know.

I am Todzo's alternate identity.

[chunkyfrog]

I thought one of the cats caught him the other night; but it slithered under a rock.

[Todzo]

In a post by chunkyfrog on Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:52 am:

Trudger is gone.
The truth is a light bulb switching on; as the cockroaches scurry under the sofa.

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In a post this thread by Todzo on Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:47 am

Trudger wrote: I'm still here, I have thick skin. lol

Ah, the wild wild web. Were you you before? Are you you now?? We have no way of knowing.

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This is the wild wild web. Anyone can pose as anyone.

Are there 50 people regularly posting here - or - are there three who each pose as 10 and 20 others? We do not know.

Probably those who claim to be in the medical field should be required to identify themselves sufficient for us to take any concerns about their advice or conduct to those who oversee them professionally.

I am suspicious that a libelous fishing attempt, for example, would not be considered as professional behavior.

[Todzo]

CPAP does not work for most people.

We do not have a good answer for sleep apnea at this time.

still true

[BlackSpinner]

CPAP does not work for most people.

We do not have a good answer for sleep apnea at this time.

still true

Only in your tiny, OSA damaged mind.

[allen476]

I am suspicious that a libelous fishing attempt

I have yet to read anything on this thread that could even be construed as libel.

[NateS]

http://apt.rcpsych.org/content/13/5/336.full
Why don’t patients take their medicine? Reasons and solutions in psychiatry
http://apt.rcpsych.org/content/13/5/336.full

Over the course of a year, about three-quarters of patients prescribed psychotropic medication will discontinue, often coming to the decision themselves and without informing a health professional.

By this measurement, if we were to apply the argument made by the poster presently claiming to be "Todzo", pharmaceutical companies would be required to reduce the success rates reported out of clinical studies of psychotropic medications by 75%. For example, if a particular psychotropic medication was effective for 80% of those patients who took the medication, the companies would be required to report that the drug had a success rate of only 20% (1/4 of 80%), because only 25% of those who were sent home with the prescription actually took the medicine.

Also relevant to this discussion is the fact that:

The degree to which an individual follows medical advice is a major concern in every medical specialty (Osterberg & Blaschke, 2005). Much attention has focused on methods to persuade patients to adhere to recommendations, without sufficient acknowledgement that avoidance of sometimes complex, costly and unpleasant regimens may be entirely rational (Mitchell, 2007a). Equally overlooked is the influence of communication between patients and healthcare professionals. Put simply, if no clear agreement is formed with the patient at the onset of treatment then it should be of no surprise if concordance turns out to be less than ideal. In one study the chance of premature discontinuation was found to be less than half in patients who recalled being told to take the medication for at least 6 months compared with those not given this information (Bull et al, 2002b). This task is made more difficult when patients lack insight into their condition.

Respectfully, Nate

[pootsie]

By this measurement, if we were to apply the argument made by the poster presently claiming to be "Todzo", pharmaceutical companies would be required to reduce the success rates reported out of clinical studies of psychotropic medications by 75%.

That is also why I firmly believe that diet and exercise do not help with weight loss.

[mollete]

Oh, man!

I think I had some bad fish for lunch!

Now I've got a bad case of the Todzos!

[Todzo]

In a post by chunkyfrog on Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:52 am:

Trudger is gone.
The truth is a light bulb switching on; as the cockroaches scurry under the sofa.

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In a post this thread by Todzo on Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:47 am

Trudger wrote: I'm still here, I have thick skin. lol

Ah, the wild wild web. Were you you before? Are you you now?? We have no way of knowing.

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This is the wild wild web. Anyone can pose as anyone.

Are there 50 people regularly posting here - or - are there three who each pose as 10 and 20 others? We do not know.

Probably those who claim to be in the medical field should be required to identify themselves sufficient for us to take any concerns about their advice or conduct to those who oversee them professionally.

I am suspicious that a libelous fishing attempt, for example, would not be considered as professional behavior.

examples abound

[Todzo]

If 100 people are prescribed a medication that is known to work well, and only 20 people continue to take it, did the medication really fail?

It did not work for the people regardless of the reason.

CPAP does not work for most people.

We do not have a good solution for Obstructive Sleep Apnea at this time.

Truckers and the rest of us need a solution that actually works at least most of the time.

Much work to do for the medical professionals here!!!

[NateS]

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Truckers and the rest of us need a solution that actually works at least most of the time.

Friend, you need to get a grip. Your posts are becoming extremely bizarre, especially when you start quoting yourself as an authority for your further remarks!

I am wondering what happened to the Todzo who previously was reporting his excellent progress and results with cpap here on cpaptalk, and who was greeting new members with detailed advice and encouragement and suggestions! Have you given up on advice and encouragement to the newly diagnosed? Do you want to discourage them and push them to fail? If the rate is 50% as you claim, or any other percentage, which group do you want people who come here for help and advice to fall into? What are you doing to help people succeed or fail?

As for your buddy the truck driver called Trudger, while he expresses shock and surprise at his Marten experience with the sleep apnea issue in the year 2013 and imagines himself as some kind of a crusader off on a "new" cause, he is in fact at least two and a half years late to the crusade/parade. His fellow truckers were discussing this about Marten and the sleep apnea equipment two and a half years ago! Here is a sampling of direct quotes from the year 2010 of a discussion between various truck drivers, from the very same website where he attempts to pour a very old "whine-whine-whine" into a new bottle:

Yes that's true. To me it's not fair to the driver and honestly an invasion of his/her privacy. There is many people out there that snore but don't have sleep amnia. And if the driver is found to snore he/she will fail the test.

You are incorrect about everything you just said. What is not fair and an invasion of privacy? It's there company policy to give a sleep study test, if you do not like it, then don't fill out a app. and go else where. You also stated that if a driver is found to snore that he/she will fail the test. again you are wrong. I just took a sleep study test on my own accord and it is done on two parts. First when you sleep you are checked for any sleep disorders. The second part is IF they find any episodes of sleep apnea or disorder they wake you up and fit you with a mask and check you again for the rest of your sleep study. If you snore and have no sleep apnea or disorders which the test will verify how is a driver going to fail? You should get your facts together before you come on the internet and talk with misinformation, it will help you, not people like me in the know,and that goes with anything in life. A company that i had a talk with said that if a new hire went to a sleep study and had sleep apnea, he/she would have to get a cpap and have a chip put in it to have it checked for compliance as in to see if you are useing it. If Martin does not hire because of apnea then that's there policy.
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…If it is found that you have sleep apena, then marten foots the bill. So, bottom line, if your fat and have sleep apena, that does not prevent you from getting hired at marten. Getting treated for it is a good thing cause you'r gonna live alot longer!
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That is a good thing that Martin will still hire a driver with sleep apnea. It seems all the big carriers are jumping on the band wagon with this. I was told today that i have it and have to get fitted with a mask. I have put on weight through out the years and this is getting me to get serious about getting in shape. The only problem with this is i think some companies will not hire you as i read about a new hire that got turned down at Schneider. Don't know all the facts with that one. Companies should not turn a driver away as long the driver is

That is a good thing that Martin will still hire a driver with sleep apnea. It seems all the big carriers are jumping on the band wagon with this. I was told today that i have it and have to get fitted with a mask. I have put on weight through out the years and this is getting me to get serious about getting in shape. The only problem with this is i think some companies will not hire you as i read about a new hire that got turned down at Schneider. Don't know all the facts with that one. Companies should not turn a driver away as long the driver is compliant with the cpap use.

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Good that you are getting a c-pap machine. You are going to feel better for it.

This is old, old news!!! These truckers were discussing this in 2010!

Some crusader!

Regards, Nate