Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

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Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by jlmoorekcmo » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:37 pm

Interesting story on military paying disability for Sleep Apnea.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/art ... ck_check=1

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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by Todzo » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:52 pm

would you please use a non disgusting avatar
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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by 49er » Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:01 pm

Todzo wrote:would you please use a non disgusting avatar
Sheesh Todzo, you get on people for being trolls and then you post this totally inappropriate message.

jlmoorekcmo, see this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=89786&hilit=Militar ... use+Claims

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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by Todzo » Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:54 pm

49er wrote:
Todzo wrote:would you please use a non disgusting avatar
Sheesh Todzo, you get on people for being trolls and then you post this totally inappropriate message.

jlmoorekcmo, see this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=89786&hilit=Militar ... use+Claims

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I simply do not like disgusting avatars.
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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by Todzo » Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:59 pm

Todzo wrote:
49er wrote:
Todzo wrote:would you please use a non disgusting avatar
Sheesh Todzo, you get on people for being trolls and then you post this totally inappropriate message.

jlmoorekcmo, see this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=89786&hilit=Militar ... use+Claims

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I simply do not like disgusting avatars.
Honestly, I am glad to see the subject brought up but using a disgusting avatar pain tags the message.
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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by sleepinow » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:06 pm

Lol I find the avatar funny and not disgusting at all. Which is the purpose of it

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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by Todzo » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:26 pm

From the article - “if a sleep study confirms apnea on active duty, or the condition can be linked back to time in service, and a CPAP (continuous positive airway pressure) machine is prescribed, then the current VA rating schedule requires a 50 percent disability rating.”

In my case (severe sleep apnea with extreme hypoxia) I found that I was only able to work half time effectively and that my earning power dropped by a factor of more than four.
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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by nanwilson » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:30 pm

Todzo wrote:would you please use a non disgusting avatar
Actually, it doesn't really matter what anyone thinks of another's handle or an avatar, its none of anyone's business what another person likes or dislikes....,.its their choice.
Its not your name or avatar.. perhaps there's someone out there that doesn't like yours ...
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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by Todzo » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:46 pm

From the article: “Webster said he knows of retired Air Force pilots diagnosed with sleep apnea who have passed rigorous flight physicals to be able to fly commercial aircraft.”

Which would you rather have. A person can run fast and do many chin ups or one whose brain is sharp as a tack.

It is the excessive daytime sleepiness, working memory problems, lack of problem solving abilities, inability to suppress the first response, lack of focus, lack of affect, and inability to maintain vigilance that make the person unable to get the job done. While a person with Obstructive Sleep Apnea may be able to start the day with all of the above they will likely leave him sometime during the day. Since the ability to self monitor is also affected it will likely be his supervisor who notes that he is in trouble.

My experience is that CPAP treatment reduced but did not solve any of the above.
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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by BlackSpinner » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:49 pm

Todzo wrote:would you please use a non disgusting avatar
I don't see any genitals or breasts or mutilated animals/people. I see a doll in the possible form of a troll with a smile.

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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by Todzo » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:57 pm

From the article - “Ironically, physicians who treat the disorder say that if a CPAP provides relief, vets no longer should be viewed as disabled, a nuance ignored by the Veterans Affairs Schedule for Rating Disabilities (VASRD).”

Well we know that at least half of them will not be able to use CPAP for more than four hours a night at the one year mark.

And I know that even with treatment you will not be back anywhere near to 100%.

I think that the 50% disability is probably conservative.
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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by Zomglawlz » Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:59 pm

50% is really not 50% either. VA math is jacked up. If a vet has 5 conditions rated at 50, 20, 10, 10, and 10% you would assume that would make them 100%. But, the VA says no.

50+20=60
60+10=64
64+10=67.6
67.6+10=70.84

The VA would rate the vet at 70%

So if a vet was rated for anything that was the same or higher then the 50% from apnea, it would significantly drop it or even eliminate it. I really wish people would not read some persons opinionated article and take it as gospel without knowing facts or at least ow the system works.

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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by jencat824 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:21 pm

First - I like the avatar!

Second - how is sleep apnea 'service related'??? This statement makes no sense to me. I think everyone here would agree that our OSA was NOT caused by our employment.

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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:33 pm

Funny avatar! It indicates a sense of humor; often a commodity in short supply. (as we have been made painfully aware)
Remember, military definitions are baffling, and a lot of other weird things.
In the civilian world, a duck -is a duck -is a duck, ad infinitum.
In the military, a duck -is some random object -is a different random object, etc.
Every iteration can be different. Just the way things work.

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Re: Military Sleep Apnea Abuse Claims

Post by BlackSpinner » Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:35 pm

jencat824 wrote:First - I like the avatar!

Second - how is sleep apnea 'service related'??? This statement makes no sense to me. I think everyone here would agree that our OSA was NOT caused by our employment.

Jen
That is the difference between a desk job and military service. You are not crawling through deserts/swamps, getting shot at, blown up and exposed to dangerous chemicals all at the same time - any physical or mental degradation during that time should be considered service related.

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