PR S1 software options..Warning a Novel..

[Pugsy]

Both bones off at the wrist. They wanted to do surgery but I didn't want to do it so we set it. Few days later in doctors office xray showed it had come out of place and had to be reset there. OMG, talk about pain.

Before surgery they did try to reduce the fracture in the office. They gave me shots (many of them) directly into the fracture site... OMG that was awful. There are only a couple of people in this world that I would wish that sort of pain on. I do hold a grudge forever for some offenses.

Anyway..other than loss of grip strength in that hand and some range of motion..it all turned out well. I saved the pins that were removed for posterity. When it rains or thinks about raining now my wrist aches along with the rest of my old injuries.

[macewa]

Oh yes, the shots didn't even touch the pain! That experience (the whole thing) was the worst pain I've ever had, possibly because it lasted so long. Fortunately, the only problem I had from it is that if I go to get change at a store, I have to use my left hand as my right hand tilts slightly downward in that position. And, I guess a slight reduction in side to side range. But hey, I use it to type and make jewelry . . . so I'm a happy camper.

Both bones off at the wrist. They wanted to do surgery but I didn't want to do it so we set it. Few days later in doctors office xray showed it had come out of place and had to be reset there. OMG, talk about pain.

Before surgery they did try to reduce the fracture in the office. They gave me shots (many of them) directly into the fracture site... OMG that was awful. There are only a couple of people in this world that I would wish that sort of pain on. I do hold a grudge forever for some offenses.

Anyway..other than loss of grip strength in that hand and some range of motion..it all turned out well. I saved the pins that were removed for posterity. When it rains or thinks about raining now my wrist aches along with the rest of my old injuries.

[Pugsy]

I have edited page one of this thread to include the options for the new PR S1 60 series machine.
Right now your only software options are EncoreBasic and Encore Pro 2.8. SleepyHead is not yet compatible with the new models. It is being worked on though. Encore Pro 2.8 is typical PITA bloated pig PITA to use. I am recommending EncoreBasic. It gives every bit the same data (including waveform) that Pro does and is much smaller and less of a PITA to install and use. It also will install on 32 bit or 64 bit computers without a problem. Still Windows based software though.

Pro 2.8 still has separate downloads for 32 or 64 bit computers. It still has the PITA log in and password stuff and is still a huge bloated piece of software. Basic is much smaller and easier to manage. It is still slow though.
Since Basic does the same job and Pro is such a PITA if someone wants to try Pro they are on their own. I don't do any hand holding for Pro anymore. It was a lot of work, time consuming and I just don't want to do it anymore.

[stipton]

This is more my normal night. With maybe small pressure spike occasionally besides the probes seen here.
Leaks are rarely an issue.
Software set for unintentional leak only.

Wow Pugsy! This looks like a very clean report. Is it possible that mine can get this clean with adjustments to the machine?

[Pugsy]

Wow Pugsy! This looks like a very clean report. Is it possible that mine can get this clean with adjustments to the machine?

Yep, entirely possible. Might not be an every night occurrence but yes, it can be done.
Remember I had 2 years under my belt when I got that report. I had a lot of ugly nights too. I still have some ugly nights. Some nights I need much higher pressures and some nights I don't. That is why I use auto adjusting pressure mode on my machine.
BTW that report is with the software set up to show only unintentional leaks.
You can do that too if you wish.
In EncoreBasic click on the Utilities arrow...then Settings...Page will come up and in lower right you can click on edit...then change the leak reporting to show unintentional leaks..then save.
My baseline for my mask and my pressures happens to be at zero. Not everyone's will be at zero but it will be close.
It seems like full face mask users that use higher pressures have a baseline around 10 to 20 L/min so don't freak out if your baseline isn't quite at zero. Your pressures aren't high but just look at whatever the leak line is during the very first part of the night when you know you are likely awake and no leaks and that gives you the starting baseline.
Remember that there will be some upward trend on the leak line due to pressure increases when in APAP mode.
More pressure means more vent rate even with zero excess leak.

[m3rcy]

Pugsy,

So far with EncoreBasic, I'm only able to view waveform for the last day only. I read the entire thread but it was not clear to me if this was confirmed to be normal.

[Pugsy]

So far with EncoreBasic, I'm only able to view waveform for the last day only. I read the entire thread but it was not clear to me if this was confirmed to be normal.

This appears to be the way EncoreBasic does things. Pro will let you view the older ones but ONLY if you download daily or it only gives you the last waveform.
My suggestion is if you want to review the waveform again then just save it to a folder on your desktop used to store the older waveform reports. So with either software you have to download daily anyway. Might as well save the pdf of the waveform at the same time.

I haven't been able to figure out how to get to the older waveforms. I tried not long ago when I realized that Encore was only allowing the last waveform. This software was designed for DMEs and doctors and I suppose they figure that most of the time only the most recent waveform will be reviewed (if there is any data review).

Pro is more difficult to install, requires passwords and log in and is more of a PITA than saving a pdf is. IMHO

[m3rcy]

Thank you for confirming. I thought it was me because after clicking on the waveform icon, a date drop box is selectable but only one day is displayed (last day).

[howkim]

Hi, Pugsy,

Great thread! I haven't been around here in several months. I tried to catch up on posts that might be relevant to myf question, but got only bits and pieces, and old threads that didn't quite provide the information that I need.

So, my question to you is whether SH works with the PRS1 Series 60 yet. My sleep doc (who demonstrated today that he can actually learn) is ordering me an auto PRS1-60. He wants me to bring in the efficacy reports from the new machine when I see him next. If SH doesn't provide them, what are my options?

Thanks,

[Pugsy]

So, my question to you is whether SH works with the PRS1 Series 60 yet. My sleep doc (who demonstrated today that he can actually learn) is ordering me an auto PRS1-60. He wants me to bring in the efficacy reports from the new machine when I see him next. If SH doesn't provide them, what are my options?

Hey there, long time no see.

Good to have to drop in.

Yes, SleepyHead will work with the 60 series APAP machine now. A special "Patch" file is needed.
It's all explained here. viewtopic/t83551/SleepyHead-Series-60-Patch-Avail.html
I think on maybe page 3 I have some instructions with screen shots for those who don't quite understand the process for applying the Patch.
Won't work on the 60 series BiPaps yet though.

Don't stay away so long next time.

[howkim]

Thanks! I appreciate the quick reply.

[mikehol]

Hello all.... I just recently got my CPAP machine and am struggling to get used to it. I'd like to see the data from the machine and see what's going on and see how much sleep I'm actually getting. I just downloaded and installed SleepyHead v0.9.1 (the self installing executable). I have Windows 7 64bit FYI. It installed ok but told me their was an update available. I tried the update and it failed. The software is running so I tried to import data from my card for the first time. It said it finished importing data 1 but there is no data in SleepyHead. It does show the make, model, and serial number of my machine but it does not list a First Use or Last Use. On the statistics page at the very top it says "No CPAP Machine Data Imported". I would really like to see the data. I've seen people say that you need a special card reader to use Encore. I'm just using the card reader that is built into my computer, do I need to get one of these readers even to use SleepyHead?

So I don't know what to do next in order to see the data. Please help. I would like to get a hold of Encore basic and pro to try out (I have an extensive background in computers). So if I could get a link to both of those I'd realy appreciate it.

Here is my machine info:
Philips Respironics, System One RemStar Pro with C-Flex+ (460P)

Thanks in advance for any help.

[Pugsy]

Philips Respironics, System One RemStar Pro with C-Flex+ (460P)

SleepyHead v0.9.1 (the self installing executable). I have Windows 7 64bit FYI. It installed ok but told me their was an update available. I tried the update and it failed.

Uninstall SleepyHead and lets install so the update will install easier...saves work later.
Go back to the setup files and right click the mouse on those setup files and from the little pop up menu choose "run as administrator"...this will allow SH to automatically update to the 9.2-1 version when you open SH.

This should allow SleepyHead to automatically update to version 0.9.2-1. If you didn't have a 60 series machine you could stop there but you don't so you have to go do the Patch file thing. See this thread 1st post for Patch file and pages 3 and 4 for steps with pictures.
viewtopic/t83551/SleepyHead-Series-60-Patch-Avail.html

Do the steps outlined in that thread to replace the old application exe file with the new application exe file.
You may need to reboot the computer..you may not...you also may need to open SleepyHead again with administrator privileges to get the last update that should make the final Sleepyhead version 0.9.3...once you have that version you should be able to import the data.

[mikehol]

Ahhhh.... I was soooo close! I had it all working except I didn't realize I needed the Patch. Installed the patch and poof... Data imported perfectly.

FYI, You don't need to do a re-install. You just need to change the program shortcut to "Run as asministrator". For those who are on windows 7, just right click on the program shortcut, click on the Advanced button (bottom right), check the "Run as administrator" check box, click on the Ok button, and then click on Ok button.

Thanks again for the help!!! Now I just need to go back and read your post about how to intemperate the results.

[Pugsy]

FYI, You don't need to do a re-install. You just need to change the program shortcut to "Run as asministrator". For those who are on windows 7, just right click on the program shortcut, click on the Advanced button (bottom right), check the "Run as administrator" check box, click on the Ok button, and then click on Ok button.

Yes, I know about opening SH with the right click of the mouse and choosing Run as Administrator thing when SH is already installed.

If someone either hasn't already installed SH or has only made it to first version....I try to get them to install under the Run as administrator umbrella from the beginning and it means they don't have to remember to open SH with that command later if another update comes out.

Right now not many updates but if another one comes out in 2 months...I guarantee a bunch of people will have forgotten that step and come back here with "help, SH says it needs to update but I can't get it to take"...and we have to tell them all over again about the open SH and choose run as administrator all over again.
Saves times and hassle later.

So anyone reading this...it doesn't matter which way you give SH administrator rights...but it is simplest to give SH the rights from the very beginning...saves aggravation if you forget that one little detail later and updates fail. Right now there is really only 1 update for the Basic SleepyHead to get you to version 9.2-1...and then the Patch file update to get to 9.3 but there likely will be future updates at some time.

Also if you do uninstall SleepyHead and you already have data in there...the uninstall doesn't affect the old data at all because all that stuff is stored in MyDocuments folder under Sleepy App folder and the uninstall doesn't touch that.
I did it myself to test it. Had data from 4 different machines in there when I did it. Didn't lose a thing.