The best CPAP device in the world

[rosacer]

The information the person gave us is not 100% accurate.

The noise is < 24 dB at 8.15 cmH2O but how much lower that 24 dB? 23.9 dB ? What about at higher pressures because 8 cmH2O is not much.

The HEPA filter is a good thing but you see it cost 160EUR in the place where I found it, maybe you can find one less expensive bu still I prefer my N95 home made filters

Yes it looks like a hotel coffee maker , imagine some folks thought the System One was ugly we haven't seen this one But maybe it is a marvel who last for ever, who knows.

Who want to try it ? I know some of our friends here like to try the new machines; OK who is the brave one ? show up

[DiverCTHunter]

What's it cost? Unless it's a lot cheaper, who cares?

I do keep hoping a Chinese or other manufacturer will start selling CPAP equipment for an honest price without all the BS of the current corrupt distribution system. The markup on this stuff is so obscene that someone could easily undercut the whole system.

An honest Chinese manufacturer Thanks, I needed that.

[archangle]

What's it cost? Unless it's a lot cheaper, who cares?

I do keep hoping a Chinese or other manufacturer will start selling CPAP equipment for an honest price without all the BS of the current corrupt distribution system. The markup on this stuff is so obscene that someone could easily undercut the whole system.

An honest Chinese manufacturer Thanks, I needed that.

You obviously don't have much experience with the current crop of CPAP manufacturers if you think they're honest.

[Randyp1234]

It does look like a Mr Coffee doesn't it?
I also thought the original post was a thinly disguised spam attempt but then wondered why someone would bother posting here because even if we wanted it and could afford it... we couldn't buy it anyway. Not many forum members here are in Germany and it surely isn't marketed here in the US. There are a lot of machine brands out there that we have never heard about.
Figured it wouldn't hurt to leave the post alone just in case it was a legit thing but I am always suspicious when a first post is all about the fine features of some whatever product.

Looking back with 20/20 hind site it's probably the awkwardness of English being a second language that made it seem like a troll.

To the original poster - if you return - I apologize.

[GumbyCT]

I would never reply to such obvious spam but I must say... It sure is UGLY!!!

Not sure I would consider it spam. It is a xpap machine. It is interesting to see other variations and prices.

Spam is ....ahem... unmentionable products for unmentionable acts as per the OMG a kid might see this post.

You described porn there gf.

Spam would be unsolicited unwanted sales emales

We are interested in learning so the curiosity continues.

The BMW was boxy looking the first time I saw one. Learned to love it.

I didn't see anything regarding software so that makes it a no deal for me.

Tho I think other mfg's can learn from this vendor as they make it 12/24V compatible so it can't be that hard now can it re$med?
Power Supply: 96 - 264 volts, 12/24 volt adapter
http://www.maxima.co.il/var/931/145604- ... PAP%20.pdf

[North_Moon]

I have no idea who what experience gained from this CPAP unit but maybe it is good to not fill the forum with an old or incorrect data.
For sure it is a high end manufacturer which does not produce cheap mass production for the Average Joe and does not seem the most clever to compare apparently seems Mercedes with K car .
Аnyway look what I found on the Internet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKm7AWj7JRk
It is true the device seems a little strange but as far as I know this is a medical device and German engineers probably know very well what they do as they have left the manufacturers of coffee makers to worry about design
Filter really worth 160€ but he needed a replacement after a minimum of 12up to 18 months ,animation uploaded by manufacturer shows that they have managed to control the pressure inside the mask rather than cheap mass production with sensor inside device .
Concerning the price it is comparable to the same class of products produced by ResMed and Respironics but in case they are more expensive a high quality always has a higher price.
Personally, I will gather more information about how and where to buy this unit as the price and shape at least concerns me.

[Suzjohnson]

I would never reply to such obvious spam but I must say... It sure is UGLY!!!

Like my dear mama said, "Pretty is as pretty does".

Suz

[Goofproof]

What's it cost? Unless it's a lot cheaper, who cares?

I do keep hoping a Chinese or other manufacturer will start selling CPAP equipment for an honest price without all the BS of the current corrupt distribution system. The markup on this stuff is so obscene that someone could easily undercut the whole system.

An honest Chinese manufacturer Thanks, I needed that.

You obviously don't have much experience with the current crop of CPAP manufacturers if you think they're honest.

And you also don't know where your XPAP is made or the parts are made. jim

[brucifer]

Vacuum cleaners suck air. xPAP machines blow air. This German xPAP model is the Dyson Ball of xPAP machines. It has some nice extra features, but you are going to pay a premium for them even compared with current DME provider prices!

I'm with you, Rosie; my S9 is just fine like it is.

[zoocrewphoto]

What's it cost? Unless it's a lot cheaper, who cares?

I do keep hoping a Chinese or other manufacturer will start selling CPAP equipment for an honest price without all the BS of the current corrupt distribution system. The markup on this stuff is so obscene that someone could easily undercut the whole system.

An honest Chinese manufacturer Thanks, I needed that.

You obviously don't have much experience with the current crop of CPAP manufacturers if you think they're honest.

I'd be worried that the chinese version has something with deadly vapors in it. They don't seem to be health friendly with lead in kid's toys, melamine in baby formula and cat food (I've got a dead cat from that), and there are always recalls for cat and dog treats with something bad in it. I just saw a new one because the dog treats are made in the USA, but the bags are from china and have lead in them.

I would not trust medical equipment from China.

[Conrad]

A lot to be said for German engineering.

[SockPuppet]

I already found a company in Europe that will deliver it to the U.S. and if anyone is interested in further details can write to my e-mail.

I am surprised how naive some of the fellow members are. This dude is clearly a spammer and likely a scammer. Even the ID he chose, "seelinks", is a not-so-clever play on the phrase, "see the URLs I am posting". (Although he did not actually post any links.)

The machine is a legitimate machine made by a legitimate company, FLO Medizintechnik GmbH. However it is not FDA approved and import into the U.S. is illegal.

Is the machine any better than what we already have available in the U.S.? It possibly has some unique features that some would benefit from, but it's no world-beater.

Beware of scammers.

[SleepDepraved2]

What's it cost? Unless it's a lot cheaper, who cares?

I do keep hoping a Chinese or other manufacturer will start selling CPAP equipment for an honest price without all the BS of the current corrupt distribution system. The markup on this stuff is so obscene that someone could easily undercut the whole system.

I don't. With as many scandals about lead and other toxins being in Chinese-made toys and even dog food, I would rather not have a Chinese-made CPAP machine if I can help it.

[archangle]

What's it cost? Unless it's a lot cheaper, who cares?

I do keep hoping a Chinese or other manufacturer will start selling CPAP equipment for an honest price without all the BS of the current corrupt distribution system. The markup on this stuff is so obscene that someone could easily undercut the whole system.

I don't. With as many scandals about lead and other toxins being in Chinese-made toys and even dog food, I would rather not have a Chinese-made CPAP machine if I can help it.

Then don't. However don't try to stop those of us with a different point of view.

[old64mb]

While the first post may or may not be astroturfing (rather than spam), don't knock the European machines as a group.

I know several people who have had really good experiences with these machines:

http://www.hoffrichter-gmbh.de/122.html?&L=1

along with these:

http://www.breas.com/breas_templates/Pr ... __741.aspx

It's a real shame they don't have better US/Australian presence. Respironics and Resmed could use some competition, especially since F&P is so far behind in market share. Keep in mind F&Ps Sandman series was literally half the size of the S8s and M series and probably was a factor in prompting the big two to work on the System One and S9. Duopolies tend to keep prices high and innovation low.

Thus, always nice to hear of a new player in the market, even if the motivation may be sketchy.