M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by GumbyCT » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:16 pm

I didn't realize that OP was in UK either. That makes a diff.

Depends on how soon after turning off the machine the card is removed. IIRC this smart card has a 60 minute delay to closing the sessions.

I do remember there is a way to change the way the day runs so it's midnight to midnight instead of noon to noon.

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by sleepinglass » Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:57 pm

How do I download graphs and things from my card reader to the posts?

Is it easy to do?

All my downloads are backed on to my computer.

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by Pugsy » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:15 pm

sleepinglass wrote:How do I download graphs and things from my card reader to the posts?
I use screen shots of my reports and put them on Photobucket.

Here is how I do post images of reports.



Open the image to full size so it is easily read.
I use Vista snipping tool to create a screen shot and crop the image at the same time.
Prt/scr key will also take a screen shot if using XP. If laptop is used sometimes the Fn key has to be pushed at the same time as the prt/scr key
I think windows 7 Home Premium has the snipping tool, Basic may not.

Once the screen shot is created save it in jpg format.
Upload the image to a host site. I use Photobucket it is free, there are others.
Once the image is uploaded then copy the ENTIRE IMG address. Be sure to include the opening and closing IMG in brackets. Paste that copied address into a post here.
Use the preview button. If you can't see the image try again because if you can't see it we can't.

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by GumbyCT » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:34 pm

Be sure to let us know how soon after waking you have been downloading the data from the card.

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by sleepinglass » Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:33 am

Regarding the question of how quickly I download the data, Perhaps I am not waiting long enough!

I shall in future wait 60 mins before downloading data.

Yesterday I lost 2 full days! so now my machine is 2 days out so instead of saying the 9th April it gives the results for the 7th.

I always make sure that the data card bleeps when I return it to the machine.

Pugsy thank you for the info about data I shall attempt it soon.

Many thanks

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by sleepinglass » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:02 am

Another problem with my machine is if I leave the machine on auto bipap setting surely it should adapt like an autopap and adjust the pressure depending on my needs.

What ever I set the parameters to it will always go to maximum,so I am wondering if I have a faulty machine.

To explain further, last night instead of usinfg my M Series bipap auto I used my old resmed auto set on min 9 max 16 cm H2O.

My average AHI was 2 and my 90% pressure was 12 cm H2O.

However on my Bipap (the previous night) set on 'auto bipap' I set the ipap setting to 18 and epap 10 on the auto setting it is saying that my 90% ipap is 18 and 90 % epap is 14.

I am just wondering if my bipap auto could be faulty because 18 is much higher than my auto pap which states I need just 12!!???

Can anybody who has actual experince with both an auto and an aoto bipap offer any expalnations for the differences between the two autos?

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by GumbyCT » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:18 am

sleepinglass wrote:Yesterday I lost 2 full days! so now my machine is 2 days out so instead of saying the 9th April it gives the results for the 7th.
Losing 2 days is a common problem in the M series. It has been written about many times here. IIRC, I think the conclusion I came to was that it is caused by sleeping longer, I don't remember the exact number, and the way it is stored on the card.

More than 8hrs sleep seems to ring a bell, I know it doesn't seem like much but that I think is what I remember. Feel free to search this forum using the words Data Loss.

Some got by using 2 cards others by formatting the card every week BEFORE the card max'd out. Or I guess you could leave the card out after a bathroom break IF you are sleeping more than 8hrs?

Don't forget a bipap generates more data than a cpap too.

IF you can ever get a System One the data loss problem is gone tho I do wish they had used a thumb drive but it is a far better machine.

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by GumbyCT » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:01 am

sleepinglass wrote:Can anybody who has actual experince with both an auto and an aoto bipap offer any expalnations for the differences between the two autos?
When using a bipap it is the epap pressure which suppresses or eliminates most events such as Obstructions. So it would not be unusual for the epap to equal your cpap pressure.

If you look at your Encore chart to the left it will show what events each pressure affects.

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by sleepinglass » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:02 pm

Hi GumbyCT

Interesting that you say that it is quite common to loose 2 days of data on the m series!
I don't have bathroom breaks at night,so can't really take the card out. But what you say makes absolute sense.

Maybe I should try to delete what is on the card each time I down load the data to see if that makes any difference.

I am totally new to the concept of Auto bipap and still trying to get my head round it.

Interesting that you say that it is not unusual for the epap to equal cpap pressure. I had got that completely wrong.
Are you experienced with auto bipaps and do you think that it is a good idea to leave the ipap at its default setting of 20?

I have searched for information as to how to start off experimenting with pressures with my bipap auto, but i have not found anything.

I sufferered really badly from debilitating hayfever which stared very early spring and carried on right through to the end of the summer, causing me to live like a hermit to live indoors for those months as everyantihistamine under the sun did not work for me.
Amazingly, cpap therapy pretty much cured it! I found the filters on the Remstar auto very effective indeed.
However not effective at all on the m Series. So I wonder if in the new series One if the filter is as effective as the M Series, which for me is not very good at all, from the hayferver point of view.

Would appreciate any thoughts, thank you.

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by sleepinglass » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:10 pm

Hi GumbyCT

Sorry but what is a thumb drive?

If you look at your Encore chart to the left it will show what events each pressure affects.[/quote]

Do you mean on the Encore chart to the left the 'daily events per hour'? Is that what you are referring to?

Thanks

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by 2 B Sleeping Soundly » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:27 pm

sleepinglass wrote: Amazingly, cpap therapy pretty much cured it! I found the filters on the Remstar auto very effective indeed. However not effective at all on the m Series. So I wonder if in the new series One if the filter is as effective as the M Series, which for me is not very good at all, from the hayferver point of view.
This might be a dumb question to ask, but do you use both filters, the re-usable grey foam grey filter and the disposable fine white filter in your M series? At first, I was using just the grey foam filter, but it was letting too much of the stuff that irritates my nose/sinuses through. Since I started using both of the filters together, and changing them out more frequently than most of the hose heads here probably do, it has greatly helped me with the allergens that affect me the most, dust and seasonal plant pollen (at least during the night while I have the mask on ). Your allergy triggers might be different and tougher to control at night then by just using both filters on your M series, but in case you haven't tried using both filters I just thought I would mention it in hopes that it might help in some way.

John

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by GumbyCT » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:36 pm

Going to bed so this will be fast....
sleepinglass wrote:Do you mean on the Encore chart to the left the 'daily events per hour'? Is that what you are referring to?
YES.

Filters are the same in both machines but as mentioned you should use both the gray & white filters.

Have you ever tried a nasal rinse for pollen?

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by sleepinglass » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:25 am

Hi John

Yes thank you I only ever use both filters and change white wash foam frequently.

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by sleepinglass » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:30 am

Hi Not familiar with nasal rinse?

Worried about using anything in the nose for fear of damaging the lining of the nose.

My specialist said many moons ago that any sprays used can cause long term damage to the nose.

Can you suggest any that you personally have used or a brand name that others have used successfully without causing damage??

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Re: M Series Auto bipap 2 Questions

Post by Pugsy » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:29 am

Nasal washes or rinses are using use saline water based. No other chemicals added.
Some people like to do the Neti Pot thing...not me..I am too chicken but I do use a solution called Simple Saline to hydrate my nasal mucosa during the day. I just use a few squirts as needed during the day.
Nasal rinses involve a lot more than a few squirts.

It is the chemicals in nasal sprays like Afrin which artificially shrink the nasal mucosa (so we don't have the congestion) that when used over time can harm the nasal mucosa and make it so the only time the mucosa will shrink is when the chemical is used. Been there and done that and breaking the Afrin habit is not pleasant at all.

You can google Neti Pot and see what those encompass.
NeilMed Rinse is another
http://www.neilmed.com/pdf/ppnasalirrigation.pdf
http://www.neilmed.com/usa/index.php

Using a saline solution is not harmful to the nasal mucosa like chemical sprays are.

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