BEER VS WINE

[cotech50]

I know that alcohol is not recommended B4 sleep but in my experience a nice glass of good red wine a couple hours prior to retiring helps me most of the time sleep straight through the night anywhere from 6-9 hrs. Now I can have 2 beers same time period and seems I have to get up anywhere from 1 to 2 times to pee. My AHI runs less that 2 most of the time. On nights with no wine seems if I wake after 4or 6 hrs many times cannot get back to sleep. JUST MY OBSERVATION!

[roster]

Glad you enjoy a glass!

I doubt one glass is enough to have a noticeable effect on the airway muscles and your experience is anecdotal evidence to support that.

[cotech50]

Well I have to admit sometimes it is a BIG glass not your small typical wine glasses.

[roster]

Yes, the trick is buying the right wine glass and you may have bought the same one I did.

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[kempo]

Played 18 holes of golf this morning. Went to the gym this afternoon for a hour and half workout. Just got through washing my Harley so I can splatter some fresh bugs all over it tomorrow. Just finished my first beer as I write this and plan on having a few more. I will sleep like a baby tonight.

[cotech50]

I was never a back sleeper until shoulder surgery but now go out on back wake up on back and sleep well even consuming the NECTAR.

[dbblet]

one good shot of vodka does fine for me !

[DennisG]

... nice glass of good red wine ... !

Not good wine = not good sleep.

Good wine =

[jnk]

"Avoid alcohol 4-6 hours before bedtime. Many people believe that alcohol helps them sleep. While alcohol has an immediate sleep-inducing effect, a few hours later as the alcohol levels in your blood start to fall, there is a stimulant or wake-up effect." http://www.umm.edu/sleep/sleep_hyg.htm

"Alcohol is a commonly used substance for sleep induction. However, it is a poor choice as a hypnotic because it can disrupt sleep even further, may lead to alcohol dependence and alcoholism, and may intensify sleep-related breathing disturbances." http://www.medscape.org/viewarticle/497982

"Low doses of alcohol may partially improve sleep, but there are reductions in slow wave activity, and disturbances in REM sleep are likely above 0.32 g/kg." http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve ... 9480904277

Even "if ethanol is drunk earlier in the day and has cleared the system, it still has the potential to disrupt sleep later in the night." http://www.chemcases.com/alcohol/alc-09.htm

"Although many people may feel alcohol helps them get off to sleep, it is also a major culprit for disrupting your night as it can interfere with the body's chemical processes needed for sound sleep." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8208212.stm

"People who said they used alcohol to get to sleep had a much higher rate of hazardous drinking." http://articles.latimes.com/2010/nov/10 ... p-20101110

"Sometimes individuals try to use alcohol to help them fall asleep, due to its sedative-like effects. And while it may help you fall asleep, it really can disrupt your sleep during the latter part of your sleep cycle. The reason for this is because as time progresses during sleep, the alcohol is metabolized, and so you lose the sedative benefit that it provides. In addition, alcohol can really disrupt a stage of sleep called as REM sleep, and the predominance of REM sleep occurs during the latter part of the sleep cycle. Therefore, alcohol disrupts that latter part of the sleep cycle. In addition, alcohol can reduce upper airway muscle tone, and cause snoring symptoms to become more pronounced. And also, if you're predisposed to having sleep apnea or have sleep apnea, then alcohol can potentially worsen this potentially serious sleep disorder." http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Sleep/alco ... id=6763654

"Alcohol is more disruptive to sleep than caffeine! Your body will produce adrenaline to compensate for the alcohol in your system. Alcohol also makes you thirsty. Both cause you to sleep fitfully." http://www.counselling.cam.ac.uk/selfhe ... s/insomnia

"Even in small doses, alcohol can cause early sedation or sleepiness, awaking during the night, and suppression of REM (rapid eye movement) sleep . . . Consider not having a ‘nightcap’ as one of the sleep hygiene steps for better slumber. Alcohol may help some people fall asleep, but it interferes with substances in the brain that allow for continuous sleep. The result is repeated waking (or partial waking) through the night, leading to fewer hours of truly deep restful sleep. Avoid drinking alcohol between dinner and bedtime. {"To eat, perchance to sleep," Washington Post Health, Aug. 29, 2000}. . . . If you suffer from other sleep disorders alcohol makes them worse, and sometimes actually causes them. In sleep apnea, when the throat muscles relax and cause a cessation of breathing, you ordinarily gasp for breath and startle yourself awake. If you have been drinking, you are more relaxed, and may be unable to awaken and start breathing again. {"Alcohol and sleep, no thanks, I’m sleeping," sleepdisorders.about.com, Nov. 2004}." http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcsleep.html

[kempo]

"Avoid alcohol 4-6 hours before bedtime. Many people believe that alcohol helps them sleep. While alcohol has an immediate sleep-inducing effect, a few hours later as the alcohol levels in your blood start to fall, there is a stimulant or wake-up effect." http://www.umm.edu/sleep/sleep_hyg.htm

"Alcohol is a commonly used substance for sleep induction. However, it is a poor choice as a hypnotic because it can disrupt sleep even further, may lead to alcohol dependence and alcoholism, and may intensify sleep-related breathing disturbances." http://www.medscape.org/viewarticle/497982

"Low doses of alcohol may partially improve sleep, but there are reductions in slow wave activity, and disturbances in REM sleep are likely above 0.32 g/kg." http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve ... 9480904277

Even "if ethanol is drunk earlier in the day and has cleared the system, it still has the potential to disrupt sleep later in the night." http://www.chemcases.com/alcohol/alc-09.htm

"Although many people may feel alcohol helps them get off to sleep, it is also a major culprit for disrupting your night as it can interfere with the body's chemical processes needed for sound sleep." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8208212.stm

"People who said they used alcohol to get to sleep had a much higher rate of hazardous drinking." http://articles.latimes.com/2010/nov/10 ... p-20101110

"Sometimes individuals try to use alcohol to help them fall asleep, due to its sedative-like effects. And while it may help you fall asleep, it really can disrupt your sleep during the latter part of your sleep cycle. The reason for this is because as time progresses during sleep, the alcohol is metabolized, and so you lose the sedative benefit that it provides. In addition, alcohol can really disrupt a stage of sleep called as REM sleep, and the predominance of REM sleep occurs during the latter part of the sleep cycle. Therefore, alcohol disrupts that latter part of the sleep cycle. In addition, alcohol can reduce upper airway muscle tone, and cause snoring symptoms to become more pronounced. And also, if you're predisposed to having sleep apnea or have sleep apnea, then alcohol can potentially worsen this potentially serious sleep disorder." http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Sleep/alco ... id=6763654

"Alcohol is more disruptive to sleep than caffeine! Your body will produce adrenaline to compensate for the alcohol in your system. Alcohol also makes you thirsty. Both cause you to sleep fitfully." http://www.counselling.cam.ac.uk/selfhe ... s/insomnia

"Even in small doses, alcohol can cause early sedation or sleepiness, awaking during the night, and suppression of REM (rapid eye movement) sleep . . . Consider not having a ‘nightcap’ as one of the sleep hygiene steps for better slumber. Alcohol may help some people fall asleep, but it interferes with substances in the brain that allow for continuous sleep. The result is repeated waking (or partial waking) through the night, leading to fewer hours of truly deep restful sleep. Avoid drinking alcohol between dinner and bedtime. {"To eat, perchance to sleep," Washington Post Health, Aug. 29, 2000}. . . . If you suffer from other sleep disorders alcohol makes them worse, and sometimes actually causes them. In sleep apnea, when the throat muscles relax and cause a cessation of breathing, you ordinarily gasp for breath and startle yourself awake. If you have been drinking, you are more relaxed, and may be unable to awaken and start breathing again. {"Alcohol and sleep, no thanks, I’m sleeping," sleepdisorders.about.com, Nov. 2004}." http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcsleep.html

jnk, a couple of beers would change your mind about all of them articles.

[jnk]

jnk, a couple of beers would change your mind about all of them articles.

No doubt!

As someone once said, 'the problem is when you have a drink and it makes a new man out of you, and then he wants a drink, too.'

Brooklyn Lager on tap is my beer of choice.

Just ain't sure it's ever helped my sleep, despite maybe feeling it has.

(Just so you know, I only quoted all those articles to irritate Ro(o)ster. He HATES it when I do that! )

[kempo]

jnk, a couple of beers would change your mind about all of them articles.

No doubt!

As someone once said, 'the problem is when you have a drink and it makes a new man out of you, and then he wants a drink, too.'

Brooklyn Lager on tap is my beer of choice.

Just ain't sure it's ever helped my sleep, despite maybe feeling it has.

(Just so you know, I only quoted all those articles to irritate Ro(o)ster. He HATES it when I do that! )

[mbmonkey1971]

Bushmills Irish whiskey does the trick for me !

[Starlette]

This is turning into a male thread. Dennis G, love your comment!

Coming from the female gender...I enjoy sharing a good brew with hubbs after work to unwind. I needed the "unwinding" today!
Hubbs, who does not use cpap, relaxes with a glass of wine. I share some sips from his glass.
My drink of choice before going to bed is a cordial of sherry.

@ Roster - Hubbs loves your wine glass

[jnk]

This is turning into a male thread.

To continue my pattern of irritatingness . . .

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/02/15/al ... index.html