Rain Out

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Re: Rain Out

Post by IsrvChrist » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:09 pm

ozij wrote:There are two types of rainout:
Hose rainout
Mask rainout.

Both of course end up in your nose/on your face.

Mask rainout is a result of water condensing on the cold mask surface.
It is not affected by machine placement.
It happens far more when person uses a nasal pillows mask
It happens far more when your pressure is lower.
It is affected by the amount of humidity supplied by the humidifier.


O.
I use a nasal pillow mask, and have a low pressure or 7.

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Re: Rain Out

Post by WearyOne » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:18 pm

I've used the SleepZone "Aussie" heated hose for three years and it's wonderful. The price if you're in the U.S. is $139.00 rather the $160.00 someone else mentioned. I never have water in my mask or the hose and I even added a regular two-foot hose between the heated hose and the mask because I needed a longer hose. (The heated hose is six feet.)

"Model Name: SleepZone Tube (USA /Canada UK/ EU Orders)
Model Number: SZ4
Price: $139.00"

http://www.sleepzone.com.au/showitems.a ... PAP%20Tube

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Re: Rain Out

Post by IsrvChrist » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:20 am

Well I went with the Repti Heat Cable last night, and it was rather enjoyable. Nice warm air, and the humidifier on 3! And almost no rain out. (the only place I had rain out was the first 1 or 2 feet of the hose that had the cold lead of the cable.) The whole system including the timer strip was US$42! That should hold me over till Jan. when I get the S9.

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Re: Rain Out

Post by Gerald » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:45 am

Osij is giving you good info.

Nearly all of my rainout problems are "exhaled breath" related....mask oriented. I solved the problem by inserting a thick, cotton string wick inside my nose-piece...to catch the pesky drip or two before they can "get me".

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Re: Rain Out

Post by IsrvChrist » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:55 am

Gerald wrote:Osij is giving you good info.

Nearly all of my rainout problems are "exhaled breath" related....mask oriented. I solved the problem by inserting a thick, cotton string wick inside my nose-piece...to catch the pesky drip or two before they can "get me".
My rain out was all up and down the hose. I would get a good 1/8 to a 1/4 cup water accumulating in the hose. With my new system I am getting moister but not accumulation.

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Re: Rain Out

Post by rested gal » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:58 am

Glad you got the rainout problem solved, Isrv.

For new readers who'd like to dig into a ton of discussions about keeping the main air hose warm to reduce the chance of rainout:

LINKS to discussions about the Aussie heated hose - to prevent rainout
viewtopic.php?t=5305

Aussie heated hose is what I've used for years. If I didn't have it or needed another one, I'd go with the Repti heat cable.
ResMed S9 VPAP Auto (ASV)
Humidifier: Integrated + Climate Control hose
Mask: Aeiomed Headrest (deconstructed, with homemade straps
3M painters tape over mouth
ALL LINKS by rested gal:
viewtopic.php?t=17435

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Re: Rain Out

Post by IsrvChrist » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:21 am

rested gal wrote: Aussie heated hose is what I've used for years. If I didn't have it or needed another one, I'd go with the Repti heat cable.
I am really surprised and pleased at how well the Repti cable worked. Another nice thing about it is, when I need to replace the hose I don't have to invest any more money into it. They need to come up with a cover like the Aussie Hose, but that you can slip onto any hose.

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Re: Rain Out

Post by DreamOn » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:24 pm

Good to read that the Repti Cable is working well for you, IsrvChrist! You may find that you get mask condensation when the weather's cooler. To help with that, you may want to get a cover for the small hose on your Swift LT nasal pillows mask. Karen at Pad A Cheek sells them: http://padacheek.com/PAC_Hosecover.html (bottom of page).
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Re: Rain Out

Post by IsrvChrist » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:29 pm

DreamOn wrote:Good to read that the Repti Cable is working well for you, IsrvChrist! You may find that you get mask condensation when the weather's cooler. To help with that, you may want to get a cover for the small hose on your Swift LT nasal pillows mask. Karen at Pad A Cheek sells them: http://padacheek.com/PAC_Hosecover.html (bottom of page).

For anyone interested in the SleepZone (Aussie) heated hose, I do see them occasionally on eBay and cpapauction. I purchased mine on eBay for about $60 as I recall. It was brand new, never opened.
I will have to check them out. My wife is also an awesome knitter and sewer, so I need to see also what she could do for me.

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Re: Rain Out

Post by WearyOne » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:17 pm

DreamOn wrote:Good to read that the Repti Cable is working well for you, IsrvChrist! You may find that you get mask condensation when the weather's cooler. To help with that, you may want to get a cover for the small hose on your Swift LT nasal pillows mask. Karen at Pad A Cheek sells them: http://padacheek.com/PAC_Hosecover.html (bottom of page).

For anyone interested in the SleepZone (Aussie) heated hose, I do see them occasionally on eBay and cpapauction. I purchased mine on eBay for about $60 as I recall. It was brand new, never opened.
Wow, great price on the SleepZone heated hose! Since mine is three years old, I would like a backup. I'll have to keep watch eBay. Thanks!

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Re: Rain Out

Post by DreamOn » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:58 pm

IsrvChrist wrote:I will have to check them out. My wife is also an awesome knitter and sewer, so I need to see also what she could do for me.
Homemade is always nice! I knitted my hose cover. It's made from very thick yarn, so it's a bit heavy, but I have a hanging system that suspends the hose so it works well. I'm using it with my new S9 Autoset right now. I've posted the picture here before, but you probably haven't seen it:

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I've also made small tubing covers using fleece fabric and made a special one for my Headrest nasal pillows mask.
WearyOne wrote:Wow, great price on the SleepZone heated hose! Since mine is three years old, I would like a backup. I'll have to keep watch eBay. Thanks!
A SleepZone heated hose recently sold on eBay for around $90. That one was new, as I recall. A few months ago, one sold on cpapauction for about $60. That one had been used one night. Search different ways, like "SleepZone," "Sleep Zone," "Aussie heated hose," etc. They turn up every once in a while.

I had thought about getting the heated hose for a few months, but I really didn't want to pay $140 for it. I had already spent a lot on masks, etc.! It was around 1 a.m., as I recall. It was one of those nights when I didn't feel sleepy yet, so I was just browsing at CPAP supplies on eBay, not looking for anything in particular. And there it was! With only minutes until the auction ended, I had to think quickly! I think there were only two other bids on it. It probably helped me that the auction ended at such an odd hour.

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Re: Rain Out

Post by oscar98 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:02 pm

IsrvChrist wrote:I know we all have it, and the cure to it is probably lying with the missing link, but how does one try and combat this problem? I tried a hose wrap, didn't work. Shorted hose, didn't work. Tried the hose both down, and now up, even turning down the humidifier to 1, and it is still there. Getting a new machine is out of the question until Jan. because my DME flat out refuses to work with me, and since it will be totally out of pocket I need to wait until the new flex spending year. It is hard to maintain both the temp and the humidity in the room, due to the fact it is a room in the "attic" the When I got a nose full of water today, I about had it with the heated humidity, but I really need it because of my asthma. Any help or ideas would be welcomed.
I'm sorry to hear your DME is refusing to work with you. Did you have any luck with your insurance company and finding out if a new DME is an option?

Make sure you check out the auction site when you are ready to buy. The S8 Elite are usually very reasonable on there if you keep an eye out for a deal. Also I've seen S9's complete with humidifier go for under $500.