rooster wrote:BlackSpinner wrote:I don't see the point of napping with a monitor to wake you up if you desat. Who sleeps with interruptions - the cpap is supposed to take care of that problem?
You won't get any rem sleep that way so there is no point to the whole exercise.
Mars,
To BS's point, I took my strenuous trail run this morning and wanted to nap after lunch to rest up for tonight's high school football opener. I put the mask on, lay down in the Falcon position, and the next thing I knew 90 minutes had passed and I was awakening from a sweet dream. Anytime I awaken naturally (no alarm or wife) from a dream, I feel great and it carries well into the day. If I am awakened by apneas, I feel terrible, sometimes for the entire day.
You might try alternating naps with CPAP and naps with the oximeter only and compare how you feel each time upon awakening.
Regards,
Rooster and All
I thought I had explained all this, but will try again.
The Concise Oxford Dictionary defines nap as -
1. Sleep lightly or briefy
and
2. Short sleep, doze,esp. by day.
My posts make it clear I am using the first definition, and your post above indicates that you are using the second definition. So you are not actually responding to what I have posted. If I was to go to bed, I would use my cpap machine.
For me, a nap is something that happens when I am relaxing in the recliner. I could be reading, watching TV, or listening to music, or just allowing my mind to wander. I find myself closing my eyes, and know I now want (need) a nap. I reach down for my oximeter, put it on and close my eyes, and slowly drift off to sleep, doze or what you will. An hour can pass before I wake up, no alarm has gone off, and I have had a refreshing sleep.
I do not have to get up, I do not have to move my recliner (and cause back pain - not conducive to a nap). I can continue to be relaxed and drowsy, and just nap with my oximeter. If I was having apneas or hypopneas I would desaturate. I do not desaturate, I nap, peacefully and restfully.
This is my reality, why anyone would want to knock this I have no idea. I see no reason to force myself to keep on trying what you do when I have a perfectly good method of napping already, which I originally explored because the cpap machine was not a viable option for naps on my armchair. But now you tell me that you do not use the armchair - you go to bed. Not the same thing at all. The body position, and the position of the throat would be quite different.
You will notice I do not advocate you trying my method 50% of the time, or any % of the time. You are happy with what you do, and there is no reason for me to advocate you change it. I am obviously happy with what I do, so why go on about wanting me to change.
This whole argument against what I am talking about is getting more and more difficult to follow, as the arguments basically totally ignore what I have said. You talk about feeling great after your machine aided nap, but it seems that my feeling great after my oximeter aided nap is not valid, and is continually ignored by some posters.
So we have to ask the question - is this a supportive forum, or a venue to knock people down who come up with a new idea. What I have been talking about bears no relation to what you have been posting about.
So why do you keep trying to get me to stop doing it?
Your help to so many people over the short time I have been in the Forum makes it difficult to understand what you are trying to achieve.
cheers
Mars
PS I knew when I started this post that I would get the gainsayer's, but I never thought that I would have to turn into some kind of advocate for a particular way of napping. The thought of all this energy being expended over a simple suggestion that cpapers can try, or not, as they wish, is mind-boggling.
