IntelliPAP Auto 19, M Series Auto A-Flex 11

[SleeplessInNyack]

On IntelliPAP I believe the ramp feature is called "delay pressure"; The device only has this for CPAP mode. In APAP mode the lower range pressure becomes the "ramp" pressure.

My feature request is to have an additional pressure setting lower than the starting range pressure as the ramp/delay pressure in APAP mode.

[mindy]

Ramp pressure does start lower.....

Mindy

[SleeplessInNyack]

Ramp pressure does start lower.....

Mindy

Yes, and on the IntelliPAP you can set that pressure, but only in CPAP mode. I would like to be able to set that pressure in APAP mode, to something lower than the lower pressure of the APAP range.

[mindy]

Ah - I see your problem. The machines I've used have ramp even in Auto mode. If it doesn't degrade your results too much, you could try setting your APAP range starting at a lower setting. Or go to CPAP mode if your pressure stays pretty stable.

Mindy

[SleeplessInNyack]

Or go to CPAP mode if your pressure stays pretty stable.

Mindy

Which is what I did; if my range is something like 12 to 15, then I can't set a lower pressure of 4; I'd never get therapy. So that's my feature request.

[El Pap]

Which is what I did; if my range is something like 12 to 15, then I can't set a lower pressure of 4; I'd never get therapy. So that's my feature request.

While your feature request makes a lot of sense, I think it's primarily beneficial to new users acclimating to therapy or those titrated at a relatively high pressure. My guess is that if you tough it out a bit longer, you won't miss that ramp pressure starting at 4. When I first started therapy more than 10 years ago, I used the ramp feature every night. Within a month, I'd stopped using it. Now, if I try breathing at 4cm I feel like I'm suffocating.

[SleeplessInNyack]

Which is what I did; if my range is something like 12 to 15, then I can't set a lower pressure of 4; I'd never get therapy. So that's my feature request.

While your feature request makes a lot of sense, I think it's primarily beneficial to new users acclimating to therapy or those titrated at a relatively high pressure. My guess is that if you tough it out a bit longer, you won't miss that ramp pressure starting at 4. When I first started therapy more than 10 years ago, I used the ramp feature every night. Within a month, I'd stopped using it. Now, if I try breathing at 4cm I feel like I'm suffocating.

Good point. And I am new - just made it through week 1. I wanted to start with APAP, but right now I need both the low ramp, and the high range. I've been starting with 6 for 20 minutes, and am CPAPing at 12 (or more - haven't found it yet).

But you're right, down the road I may only be at the higher pressures and then not need the feature. But then there will be new newbies that might use it...

[charliemack]

Since Charlie obviously feels the views and opinions of other people are not important I am surprised he has registered and joined this board. Most people actually sign up here to get opinions and experiences others have had.

Well dieselgal, I did sign up to see what peoples experiences are (for your information) and, by the way, have purchased the Remzzz that have been an answer to my leakage problems. However, when cpaptalk.com says "The DeVilbiss IntelliPAP AutoAdjust has defeated the Respironics M Series Auto A-Flex by a score of 19 to 11. Congratulations to the DeVilbiss team on a most impressive performance!" it sounds as though DeVilbiss company had some input. It is all perception and my response to it is hogwash.

People today are too prone to jump to conclusions when they get information on the internet. My comments may be strong but then that is what this forum is about isn't it? I mean does everybody have to agree with what is said? Can't there be someone on the conservative and cautious side? Oh, that's right, this is the touchy feely generation where you don't say anything that may be offensive.

[-SWS]

People today are too prone to jump to conclusions when they get information on the internet.

Is that condescending characterization of people reading this thread based on some kind of sociological data or methodology you somehow garnered? Or was that just an ironic conclusion that you too jumped to?

Kind of like this incorrect and once-again insulting conclusion about what really happens around this message board:

Oh, that's right, this is the touchy feely generation where you don't say anything that may be offensive.

it sounds as though DeVilbiss company had some input. It is all perception and my response to it is hogwash.

Well, at the rate you throw around condescending generalizations and highly incriminating accusations, my guess is that readers here may understandably begin to formulate skeptical opinions of your own baseless conclusions.

[SleeplessInNyack]

Hi,

Question to the IntelliPAP challenge people. Now that it's over 30 days since you've made your choice, I wonder if you've all stuck with your choice or if there have been any shifts in the meantime. I figure after another 30 days you might have another perspective and either miss the old machine or decided to give the new one a second look.

Regards,
Slp_In_Nyk

[-SWS]

SleeplessInNyack, I also think hearing about any changes of mind, regardless of direction, would be highly useful feedback for readers following this thread.

[DeVilbiss Marketing]

I can assure this board that DeVilbiss Healthcare had no involvement with the CPAPtalk.com Product Challenge other than to select the competitive product to challenge and provide the product to CPAP.com to distribute to participants. We had no part in the participant vetting process or selection.

Simply put, we felt our IntelliPAP AutoAdjust was as robust as competitive units and decided to put it to the test. Clearly we were pleased with the results, however we still have more to glean from end-users. Each user of CPAP is unique, which is why this forum is critical. It allows users to exchange thoughts, questions and comments about all aspects of therapy. In addition it allows us to monitor the threads and ultimately consider your feedback when enhancing existing product or developing new product.

In the end CPAP therapy is about the benefits to the user. Some may prefer one brand over the other, but as long as individuals reap the benefits of therapy - its a win. It is our hope that we can continue to learn from your feedback, demonstrate that we are listening and prove to be a viable alternative to our competitors.

[zebrajeb]

SleeplessInNyack, I also think hearing about any changes of mind, regardless of direction, would be highly useful feedback for readers following this thread.

OK - I was a participant. "Overall" I rated the IntelliPAP better than the M Series. I'll not go into my reasons again. However, I continue to use the M Series primarily for one reason - the A-flex feature. The A-flex makes the M Series "more breathable" and natural as far as I'm concerned. Other than that one feature (a critical one) I liked the IntelliPAP and its features better especially for travel. I had planned to keep and use the IntelliPAP for travel (I travel a lot) but my son needed a CPAP and his insurance doesn't cover it so I gave him the IntelliPAP. If the IntelliPAP had an A-flex type feature it would be my primary machine.

John

[mindy]

When I first started with CPAP I don't know if I could have done without AFlex. Now that I've been using it for close to 2 years, I don't need it anymore. I suspect that, like so many things, we're all over the spectrum of comfort levels with different features.

Mindy

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I, like Ozij, was disappointed that I could not enter the challenge because I live in Canada and not the United States. Now I feel even more "left out" since I couldn't even get a discount coupon either!

I realize that cpap is a United States company but it does have lots of customers worldwide and cpaptalk is an International forum.

Dont be surprised. I remember when cpapdotcom wouldnt ship to Canada either. Consider yourself priviledge that cpapdotcom didnt block access to their site cuz you're outside the USA