Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by DreamStalker » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:34 am

PAP Police wrote:A PAP pressure is a prescription, just like you need a script for valium or any drug you need a script from your doc to change the pressure. A sleep professional will not change a pressure without a doctors consent or at least they shouldn't so in my opinion neiher should you. Of course everyone makes their own decisions, but definitely consult with a doctor at least before you make changes.
Don't quit your day job (certified WalMart greeter perhaps?) cuz your legal counsel is based on certified ignorance and stupidity ... or you could "show me" the legislative statute that specifically states "patients" shall not adjust their own pressure.

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by JoyD. » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:12 am

Oh Gawd . . . I have to put my 2 cents in too

The older I get I find that I do more of what I ____ well please! . . . Physicians are in a SERVICE profession, and I pay my "dues" whenever I go for this "medical advice" service. How much of that advice I follow is MY decision ... just like deciding what I will eat for lunch. I have great respect for the medical profession, but, NO, I don't believe they have the corner on what is best for me. I go to them for GUIDANCE only as I seek to achieve optimal health!

Some physicians -- and some papers in the medical literature are PROPONENTS of the patient being taught to change CPAP settings! God bless 'em!! That makes pure sense! Who else knows, from day to day, how the person on PAP "feels" on a particular setting? Only the CPAPer, the one dealing with ALL the little & big DAILY annoyances.

I'd like to know WHO is hassling the diabetic who daily monitors his/her blood glucose and adjusts insulin as needed . . . So what's the diff??

It's the RT/DME who are obligated to follow doctor's orders, not me!

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by Slinky » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:46 am

Right on, JoyD!

And jnk.

And .... all of us who know better .... for some ignorance is bliss ... and safer!!

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by LoQ » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:35 am

carbonman wrote: Sisters & Brothers of the Yahoo Hoserhood
I think we have a leader!

Papers, next time you visit your DME, take your machine, and reset it in front of them. Then walk out.

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by jnk » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:09 am

LoQ wrote:
carbonman wrote: Sisters & Brothers of the Yahoo Hoserhood
I think we have a leader!

Papers, next time you visit your DME, take your machine, and reset it in front of them. Then walk out.
Pushing buttons by pushing buttons--YEAH!

I could never do that though, myself, since it would require my stepping foot into a brick-and-mortar DME. You see, the thing is that I don't think the word "mortar" in "brick-and-mortar" means the same thing to me and to them. And I can't promise where the brick might land. So for the sake of their safety, my safety, and the safety of the public in general, I don't think I should initiate any local DME contact without first notifying the local authorities.

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by JoyD. » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:44 pm

I could never do that though, myself, since it would require my stepping foot into a brick-and-mortar DME. You see, the thing is that I don't think the word "mortar" in "brick-and-mortar" means the same thing to me and to them. And I can't promise where the brick might land. So for the sake of their safety, my safety, and the safety of the public in general, I don't think I should initiate any local DME contact without first notifying the local authorities.

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You totally crack me up, Jeff . . . and you've covered your arse well Have you done "Stand Up?"

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by jnk » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:50 pm

JoyD. wrote:
I could never do that though, myself, since it would require my stepping foot into a brick-and-mortar DME. You see, the thing is that I don't think the word "mortar" in "brick-and-mortar" means the same thing to me and to them. And I can't promise where the brick might land. So for the sake of their safety, my safety, and the safety of the public in general, I don't think I should initiate any local DME contact without first notifying the local authorities.

[NOTE: The sentiments expressed above were for entertainment and informational purposes only. Nothing said shall be construed as a suggestion, implied or otherwise, of any action to be taken, or not taken, physically or in one's imagination. No actual DME employees were harmed or threatened in the creation of any mental images a reader may have formed as a result of the above post. No malice or wish for harm for any individuals was involved, only the calmly controlled demolition of structures, systems, and other processes that are, in fact, already broken.]
You totally crack me up, Jeff . . . and you've covered your arse well Have you done "Stand Up?"

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by ChrisC » Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:56 pm

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by roster » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:37 am

Good one Chris!

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by nobody » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:18 am

The mask should have been one one of the guys in the line.

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by ChrisC » Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:07 am

Oh, don't worry.. he's just laying down the law. They'll be putting on their masks and not changing the pressure in short order!
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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by gasparama » Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:03 am

PAP Police wrote:A PAP pressure is a prescription, just like you need a script for valium or any drug you need a script from your doc to change the pressure. A sleep professional will not change a pressure without a doctors consent or at least they shouldn't so in my opinion neiher should you. Of course everyone makes their own decisions, but definitely consult with a doctor at least before you make changes.
My machine was set to 10 by doctor's orders before the titration. However, I titrated at 9 and the DDME (you know, the people you call the sleep professionals) refused to reset it. If it hadn't been for the good folks around here, I wouldn't have know how to reset the pressure. Fortunately, I have a sensible doctor who is happy that I've taken charge of my treatment because most patients are too passive with theirs.

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by ChrisC » Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:07 pm

nobody wrote:The mask should have been one one of the guys in the line.
Fixed - how's this?

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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by Wulfman » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:25 pm

Hmmmmm.....now I seem to be having some of the dialogue from the characters in "Stalag 17" in my head.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046359/quotes

Sgt. Schulz: [on seeing the men wearing Hitler moustaches] Bah! One Fuhrer is enough!

Oberst Von Scherbach: Nobody has ever escaped from Stalag 17. Not alive, anyway.


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Re: Is it Illegal to Change Settings on One's CPAP Machine?

Post by fuzzy96 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:03 pm

IN MOST STATES IT IS ALSO ILLEGAL TO COMMIT SUICIDE.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I READ THEY WERE GUNNA PROSECUTE THAT OFFENDER!!!!!!

NOT ADJUST AND GET INEFFECTIVE TREATMENT ISN'T MUCH DIFFERENT THAN SLOW SUICIDE NOW IS IT??????