Variable Breathing always 60%+ - Concerned

[StillAnotherGuest]

...as echo noted, the NPSG graphs, particularly the one that correlates positions against sleep state.

And which SSRI are you taking?

SAG

[dsm]

<snip>

And dsm, stop sending me those crybaby PMs (appropriately termed, it's like non-stop PMS). A good gauge to resume posting is when the ankle swelling goes down.

oxoxoxoxox

SAG

SAG, Sorry for the PM - it was an attempt to sort things out outside Browsers thread. So yes I'll respect your request here & send you no more PMs.

Again, if you see something that I say that is factually wrong - just say so politely, I promise you it is not a hard thing to do. I respect your practical experience & value your comments particularly when they are in understandable English.

I would like to believe we are all here to learn what we can (yes even you). As a return favor (pretty please) do drop the constant refs to the 3-stooges such as presently in Banned's thread. That kind of 'payback' surely has to end sometime - 6+ months of it is wearing thin.

Also I want to compliment you and the rapid and distinct improvement in the clarity of your posts - That is a great step forward for us all

DSM

[rested gal]

..as echo noted, the NPSG graphs, particularly the one that correlates positions against sleep state.

Browser, here are a couple of examples (sleep stage and body position) of the kind of NPSG (Nocturnal Polysomnogram) graphs SAG is asking to see from your sleep study:



The more graphs from your study you can provide him, the better.

[Snoredog]

yeah I know its a clinic!

It's a center!

SAG

Like a Shopping Center?

[StillAnotherGuest]

As a return favor (pretty please) do drop the constant refs to the 3-stooges such as presently in Banned's thread. That kind of 'payback' surely has to end sometime - 6+ months of it is wearing thin.

Good point. Since SAG prides himself on "originality" and "freshness", he will start using "The Marx Brothers" as his metaphor instead.

Like a Shopping Center?

Exactly. A place where you can get EVERYTHING in one spot.

As opposed to a "Garage Sale", where all you can find is other people's worthless junk.

Why don't you wait and figure out exactly what this boy has before you start selling him another machine? This could just as easily be a case where Browser and Harpo need to exchange machines. Think about the other guy around here with a VB% that high.

Or a sleep maintenance issue. You can only blame so much on "lab effect" in explaining the poor sleep efficiency, and that last part of the Encore download could be Wake (or for that matter, position change). But if that VB% is due to Wake/Sleep transition, that would be one rotten night, and further, a lot of stuff needs to be rethought (rethunk?) before an approach like ASV enters the picture.

Hey Browser, won't don't you register so you can PM me?

I enjoy getting PMs.

SAG

[StillAnotherGuest]

dsm, please stop PMing me!!

And no, you can't have sex with me!

SAG

[Browser]

I take 20mg of Lexapro in the morning and 300 of Lebatelol for BP morning and night. I slept entirely on my right side for the diagnostic portion of PSG and Entirely on my back for the CPAP portion and the lab really was that bad. I had to argue about what mask to use,argue about the fan freezing my rear off and that I wanted it off,argue that I couldn't breathe at a pressure of 7cm and I almost walked out and should have. I have had several PSG and this was the worst and was in the Dr's office in an area converted to a lab.

I don't know why but I fell asleep watching a show last night and didn't strap on the mask and I am paying for it. If I don't mask up I wake up with that thing in the back of my mouth swollen to double and laying on the back of my tongue like a goober and sore and red also my eye hurts and I feel like crud. So now I got a reminder what it is like without Cpap and it is much better with it!

I am making an appointment to see my original sleep specialist from many years ago who did all my previous studies. She is well respected in the area. She also does the studies in a hospital and it is much more professional. Besides I have paid for great coverage this year 95% with 5% copay so maybe I can use it before it expires because next year it is 80/20 with big deductible because the cost of this years 95/5 almost doubled to over $250 every 2 weeks. I may not even have a job very soon due to the downturn and loss of business. I may be layed off very,very soon.

Thanks

So for SAG it was 55% VB during the posted night and as I stated that sudden drop in pressure in the morning was because I awakened when everyone else was getting up and turned the machine off and back on to drop the pressure so I could fall back asleep - I could have just hit the ramp. I slept entirely on my right side during the diagnostic portion of PSG and entirely on my back during titration. The thing in the back of my mouth/throat Uvuula? is huge and red and laying on my tongue today cause I fell asleep last night without the hose so tonights report will probably be a mess.

[Browser]

SAG - who is the three stooges and who is Harpo. You said Harpo has a high VB% so I would like to search for their posts. Oh yea, I scored 18 on that HSP test.

Man what a freaking soap opera. Reminds me of those clicks at work.

So if this were leave it to beaver Restedgal would be MOM and Snoredog would be DAD and -SWS would be Wally and DSM would be The Beaver and Snoredog would be Eddie...

Sorry,back on track here... Thanks for the help... I respect all your opinions and as Restedgal said it is up to me to sift through them...

[dsm]

dsm, please stop PMing me!!

And no, you can't have sex with me!

SAG

PM ? - only sent the one ? (another mystical meaning)
Re the sex, agreed you don't need me, you are doing very well on your own.

D

[Browser]

CORRECTION SORRY -

So if this were leave it to beaver Restedgal would be MOM and SAG would be DAD and -SWS would be Wally and DSM would be The Beaver and Snoredog would be Eddie...

Sorry,back on track here... Thanks for the help... I respect all your opinions and as Restedgal said it is up to me to sift through them...

[-SWS]

Funny stuff IMO...

Can we also have a cameo appearance by ozij as the family psychologist---since her real-world PhD happens to be in psychology? The Cleaver family and friends obviously need some serious help...

[MrSandman]

I am now a member ! YEEE HAAA ! I'M DEBT FREE - Just kidding - a reference to a show I like

[dsm]

I am now a member ! YEEE HAAA ! I'M DEBT FREE - Just kidding - a reference to a show I like

Browser,

What else is there to say - The PM system seems to only work sometimes
But, back to your therapy - actually we are providing laughter therapy - 'laughter the best medicine'

When you stop laughing (which I truly hope you have been doing), can you confirm (sorry if already posted), your weight & height & general build & age (PM me if you prefer).

The obvious conclusion from your chart is that VS is pushing your pressure up & that as has been pretty well explained by others, possibly the mask or possibly neck shape & condition.

Am confident the comedy act will now fall away to all parties focusing on your data & what help we can provide

DSM

[-SWS]

Browser
Posts: 1
Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:11 pm
Gender: None specified

Welcome to the Cleaver Matrix, Mr. Browser!

[MrSandman]

Weight 250 (was 235 at PSG)

72 inches tall

Neck - 17ish

40ish

General build - Have been called "Big Guy" not because of weight.... Medium build, very skinny my entire life - too skinny - problem started as I gained weight and got worse with more weight. I think the last 15 pounds really made it bad because if I don't use the machine the thing that hangs in the back of my throat swells up and turns red due to the snoring.

I think I need another and a better PSG because it has gotten much worse since last PSG. The last PSG was only for 1.8 hours on CPAP,not enough time for changes in sleep stages if you ask me.