OT - It's the carbs stupid!

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Post by Country4ever » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:07 pm

We just love to cut up zuchinni, mushrooms, red pepper and onions and put them on skewers. You mix Italian dressing and some soy sauce and baste them while they're cooking on the grill. They are sooooo good.

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Post by Babette » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:34 pm

Very little basted with Italian dressing ISN'T delicious!

Maybe I'll try this.

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Post by Amontilado » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:57 pm

Country4ever wrote:We just love to cut up zuchinni, mushrooms, red pepper and onions and put them on skewers. You mix Italian dressing and some soy sauce and baste them while they're cooking on the grill. They are sooooo good.
Another good grillin' side dish is taking a 3' long sheet aluminum foil, double it over, cut up yellow squash, zuchini, a few pats of butter garlic, and some times halved new red potatoes. Fold everything up into a pouch, leaving a few small holes for steam to escape, then toss on the side of the grill. Yum, and if one limits the butter, pretty healthy.

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Post by Babette » Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:00 pm

And if one skips the potatoes, healthy.

My favorite veggie on the grill is corn. I shuck it clean, then rub some butter on it. I throw it bare on the grill with whatever else I'm cooking. Roughly 6 minutes and flip.

Corn doesn't need to be COOKED, it just needs to be warmed. Too many people overcook corn.

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Post by houltkin » Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:17 pm

Avoiding flour, sugar, and white potatoes almost ALWAYS results in weight loss. Don't ask me why sweet potatoes are allowed; but they apparently are digested as a complex carbohydrate despite their name. I guess there is a reason for testing the white potato for starch in our HS science class...that starch is easily converted to sugar
I have heard that there is a diet out there which bans all white foods, which would include white rice, potatoes, sugar, bleached flour, etc. Maybe that's a good way to start.

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Post by Babette » Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:55 pm

I've read this more than once in all the zillion diet books I've read.

Must be true.

Okay, I SWEAR, as soon as I finish this tub of potato salad and the ice cream bars I'll swear off white food.

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Post by houltkin » Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:59 pm

My daughter lost a lot of weight. When I asked her how she did it, she simply said she quit eating everything white. Now I don't know if I could do that.

One of my big problems is the food channel. I love it, but I am very suggestible. I have to have so many of the things they talk about. Especially on diners, drive-ins and dives. It's a good thing there isn't an all-night diner on the corner, or I'd be in big trouble.

Babette, now that you have mentioned ice cream, I'll have to go get some out of the freezer. I think I have some rainbow sherbet in there.

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Post by Babette » Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:16 pm

Two things that kill me - The Food Network and Rainbow Sherbet.

Quit being me. See what it got ME?

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Post by DreamStalker » Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:22 pm

Check out the nice beaver!

As long as this thread is turning into a recipe file, try this easy efficient way of adding healthy fast food protein to your diet and keeping the toxic corporate fast food out of your life:

Get yourself some skinless organic range fed chicken breasts (if you can't get organic, at least get natural without hormones or antibiotics). Also score some garlic infused olive oil (I really like Rinaldo's Organic Garlic Gold ... it is a bit pricey but the flavor really is golden).

Line a baking pan with foil (not necessary but makes for easy clean up).

Add about 1 teaspoon full of garlic infused olive oil for each breast you plan to cook to the bottom of the pan.

Add the chicken breasts and season to taste (I use fresh ground black pepper and cumin and what ever else I may have around but salt is never needed).

Cover the pan with foil a sheet of foil and bake at 350 for about 45 minutes plus about 5 additional minutes for every breast in the pan.

I usually make a batch of about 6 or 8 breasts and use them during the week for lunch with a side of broccoli or green beans or wild rice or quinoa or some healthy vegetable medly that does not include potatoes (I have a cabinet load of single-serving corningware I use for freezing and microwaving). I also chop some of the chicken breast up and keep it in the frig for adding to salad on evenings when I don't want to cook dinner.

The garlic infused olive oil really makes the difference ... try it!

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Post by Babette » Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:27 pm

Yeah, I love that t-shirt! I won it as a prize at a Rendezvous. Prize blankets get more and more interesting...

Baking? IN THIS HEAT??? Are you NUTS??? Maybe in the winter.... Or do you have AC, which I don't?

I do about the same with a load of skinless chicken breasts, some garlic, lime, cilantro, and spices, and a barbecue grill. Much cooler in the hacienda, and that nice burnt crust makes me all happy and skippy.

It's almost as good as KFC.

Costco sells fresh skinless chicken breasts pre-packed in little baggies of 3 each, then groups those into about 6 baggies in a bundle. I rip off two baggies and cook them fresh, then freeze the rest and thaw and cook them as I go along. If you read the packaging, freezing them yourself is healthier than buying pre-frozen breasts. Why they have to add all those chemicals in order to freeze the breasts is beyond me.

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Post by birdshell » Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:37 pm

houltkin wrote:My daughter lost a lot of weight. When I asked her how she did it, she simply said she quit eating everything white. Now I don't know if I could do that.

One of my big problems is the food channel. I love it, but I am very suggestible. I have to have so many of the things they talk about. Especially on diners, drive-ins and dives. It's a good thing there isn't an all-night diner on the corner, or I'd be in big trouble.

Babette, now that you have mentioned ice cream, I'll have to go get some out of the freezer. I think I have some rainbow sherbet in there.
houltin,

What could you do about that? It is almost ALWAYS a matter of priorities, isn't it?

And besides, you only have to take care of things for right now, this minute: not for forever, just right now.

If this sounds a bit familiar to the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous...well, IT IS! There is much wisdom in their program and it is no surprise; some alcoholics MUST be carbohydrate-sensitive as alcohol has such a great amount of carbs.

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Don't eat white colored foods?

Post by Captain_Midnight » Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:51 pm

Poster Houltkin writes...I have heard that there is a diet out there which bans all white foods, which would include white rice, potatoes, sugar, bleached flour, etc. Maybe that's a good way to start.

It's true. As a generalization, banning white and also beige food works quite well. (Dairy, which is also white, is a critical component of the list.)

One author of such a diet banning white-colored food is Steven Gundry M.D. who has a recent book titled Diet Evolution. It's quite good. The author, who is a noted heart surgeon, describes how his diets (there are three phases in sequence) have helped his patients lose lots (really, large amounts) of weight, and how it's also made significant reversals of serious coronary heart disease.

I normally shy away from these types of claims, but the author's credentials are unusually persuasive.

In essence, it starts off with Atkins, then stabilizes in the Zone diet for a several months, then off to vegetarian-land (but with a strictly selected, leafy list of approved vegetables

The author has an interesting thesis behind his dietary succession; and, that is that his ultimate diet most closely approximates what we were evolved to eat and be healthy. A corollary is that much of the (usually light colored, or fructose-laden) carbohydrate food that is currently in the human diet sends hormone signals that (essentially) confuses our genes into doing us in.

As a Zone adherent, I'm already in the second of the three stages. And, interestingly, I did find myself feeling significantly better and maintaining weight with greater ease when I recently stopped dairy (my last remaining white food).

Sorry to make a book report here, but I suspect that the book would help almost anyone who reads it. I currently have no desire to go completely to his third phase, but I have modified the second phase with some components of the final phase, and feel just great.


As always, I'll point out that there are many, many approaches to successful dieting and good health. If you are doing well, I wouldn't change what you are doing. If you are searching for a diet, consider the ones with the most science and the best-credentialed authors.

Regards all.


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Post by Babette » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:50 pm

Are eggs a white food? Still waiting for my Zone books to come.

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Post by alnhwrd » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:42 pm

One would think that being able to stick with CPAP and make it work for ourselves would indicate that we have more than enough will power to make the dieting work, but it doesn't seem to work that way.

The "don't eat anything white" may refer to the "No Flour No Sugar" diet by Dr. Peter Gott.

http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Gotts-Flour-Su ... 1884956521

Bought and read the book, couldn't stick with it. Story of my life. Atkins is the only thing I have been able to stick with for any length of time. Lost almost thirty pounds, then fell off and BOOM, all came back and some change. Ornish really is the healthiest. Stuck with that one for a month after my mom had her stent put in, but that was too much work.

But thanks for the thread, you are all prompting me to give it another go.


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Post by kteague » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:51 pm

Just adding one of my favorite ways to cook just about anything...

I've got one of those skillets with the ridges and use it for meats and veggies. Have used it for skinless chicken breasts, steak, and pork chops, and asparagus is great in it. But the method for getting flavor into the meat will work with any skillet.

When cooking the meat, put just enough water in the skillet to simmer the seasoned meat till done (1/4"?). (No, this will not taste like boiled meat.) Just as it's about to simmer dry, guard it like a watchdog, allowing it to brown, and flip the meat. Just before the browning can turn to burning add a little more (few spoonfuls?) of water and it will sizzle and simmer up a wonderful broth that will evaporate quickly and the leave the meat looking browned and soooo flavorful. After removing the meat, add a tad bit more water and saute' your veggies. No fat added and everything tastes great.

Kathy (not responsible for any burned kitchens and not recommended for anyone whose sleepiness from SA is not under control)

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