Honey, what are your numbers . . .

j.a.taylor · Post by **j.a.taylor** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:30 pm

This has been a particularly rough week as far as sleep goes, but like anything else this treatment has its ups and downs.

There are good weeks, and there are bad, but since I've started CPAP, there are more good ones than bad.

Especially since I got my AutoPAP in August. I don't have software, but everyday, I read my screen, write my info on a 3 x 5 card, and once I'm up and around, I record that information in an Excel spreadsheet.

I've learned some amazing things:

Initially, my original machine was set at 10. I still didn't feel good, and felt like my pressure needed to be higher. That's why I asked my Doc for the AutoPAP.

My average pressure: 13.5

AHI: 4.4
AI: O.6
HI: 0,6

It's important that I know this information. It helps me manage my own treatment. I appreciate having the information.

But all that is not as sweet as the words I heard this morning. My wife, knowing that it has been a rough week, heard me get up to get ready for work, and while I was checking the numbers, she said, "Honey, what are your numbers?"

She's been learning what this information means, and having those numbers gives her peace of mind. For me, there's nothing sweeter.

AdmiralCougar · Post by **AdmiralCougar** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:07 pm

That's a totally cool story.

Best my husband does is pester me about wearing my mask. Which is good, but what would be better would be to stop his night time flailing and hitting me in the face making my face hurt to much to keep the mask on... He does this at least once a week most of the time I can continue wearing my mask but not last night. One of these days I think he's gonna end up breaking my nose. He usually "wakes" up enough to apologize profusely then falls right back to sleep and in the morning has no recollection.

I'm so glad you're wife cares you enough to be interested in your treatment.

Christy

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:35 pm

[quote="j.a.taylor"]This has been a particularly rough week as far as sleep goes, but like anything else this treatment has its ups and downs.

There are good weeks, and there are bad, but since I've started CPAP, there are more good ones than bad.

Especially since I got my AutoPAP in August. I don't have software, but everyday, I read my screen, write my info on a 3 x 5 card, and once I'm up and around, I record that information in an Excel spreadsheet.

I've learned some amazing things:

Initially, my original machine was set at 10. I still didn't feel good, and felt like my pressure needed to be higher. That's why I asked my Doc for the AutoPAP.

My average pressure: 13.5

AHI: 4.4
AI: O.6
HI: 0,6

It's important that I know this information. It helps me manage my own treatment. I appreciate having the information.

But all that is not as sweet as the words I heard this morning. My wife, knowing that it has been a rough week, heard me get up to get ready for work, and while I was checking the numbers, she said, "Honey, what are your numbers?"

She's been learning what this information means, and having those numbers gives her peace of mind. For me, there's nothing sweeter.

AdmiralCougar · Post by **AdmiralCougar** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:55 pm

Snoredog wrote: Glad you feel better, but you probably won't when you realize your machine failed basic 3rd grade math

When you add up the following indices, it should come out to (taking off my socks):

AI: O.6
HI: 0,6
------------
Tot:1.2 <---this is what your individual AHI works out to be when doing the math.

Your machine reported AHI=4.4? or are you missing some toes?

ROFL Snoredog I totally didn't catch that.

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:27 am

AdmiralCougar, I so had to laugh. But its a case of misery loves company. I'm running into the same thing! But to make it even funnier I have to give you a bit of our history.

When we first go married, the two of us slept TOGETHER on a fold-up, roll away cot. Now, in case you aren't familiar with them, they are the size and width of a TWIN BED. (Ain't love grand?). We slept quite well, thank you.

Eventually we graduated to a double bed. (Queens and Kings weren't available back then except maybe to the Rich and Famours). We slept on that double bed for YEARS with no problems. (Ahhh, good sleep, good marriage). But eventually, altho we replaced the mattress twice the springs gave out. The mattress stayed firm due to a 4'x8' sheet of plywood between mattress and springs. It got to the point sleeping on a mattress over that spring was like sleeping in an active water bed! Every little move and we ROCKED! Since hubby outweighs me by about 70 lbs it wasn't always fun. (Ain't love grand?). Other than the Rock and Roll we slept together just fine.

Ahhh, finally I buy us a Queen size bed with pillow top mattress. Ahhhhh! ROOM to sleep right? WRONG! I still have the same narrow space on the new mattress. Hubby enjoys the entire rest of the mattress and now when he flops over on his side towards me, FLOP! I get a hand in my face, my ribs, my back, etc. I'm thinking I shouldda bought TWIN BEDS!

But after all these years? Twin beds? On the other hand, there has been more than one night I've had the urge to PUNCH him! I have GOT to somehow convince him to have a sleep evaluation. He snores, he stops breathing, he has the rhythmic, gentle leg and foot movements that can ALSO drive me crazy. He has high BP for which he takes medication. I've threatened to trade him in on a goat and shoot the goat if he won't go in for a sleep evaluation but so far .... hey, I've got 43 years invested in this guy. And then there's that darn "ain't love grand?" bit .... *sigh* I just talked to my sleep doc about him the other day and he says he will understand if I make an appointment for my hubby and my hubby stands him up. So ....

msheda · Post by **msheda** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:12 am

At least your incidents are accidents.

My first wife would have a dream, then wake up and punch me. I asked what that was for and she would answer that she dreamed I had been running around with someone else.

Gerald · Post by **Gerald** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:21 am

Slinky......

Can you get your man to use your oximeter and test his O2 levels for a couple of weeks?

I bought an oximeter so that I could verify that my therapy was working.....and also for my soul-mate to use (because I think she has a mild sleep apnea problem).

I've used it 3-nights....and she's used in 21-nights!

Sure enough.......the Oximeter is confirming that she has a problem. We're now planning "self-titration". She knows that Rested Gal did her own analysis....so, she's comfortable with the idea of doing the same thing.

Like my lady, your man must make up his own mind. He must be intellectually honest enough to take action when he sees evidence of a problem.

It's hard to see something self-destruct after you've invested so much.

One can bring a horse to water, but...........you know the rest of the story. It's even harder when the critter is a mule.

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:27 am

A bull-headed Frenchman is more like it. With just enough English in him to give him the tenacity of a d*amn bulldog!!!

The oximeter is a good idea tho. Mebbe I'll try that BEFORE I make the appointment w/the doctor that he might well not keep.

Thanks! Gotta run!! HATE mornings like this!

Sal_In_Ga · Post by **Sal_In_Ga** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:39 am

When we replaced our mattress recently, my husband really wanted a queen size, but after a short discussion we decided to stay with the full size. We have slept on queen size when traveling - hotels usually only offer queen and king size- we both start and ended up in the middle! Why bother with the expense and crowding our bedroom? Love is grand!! 40yrs. and counting.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:12 am

Snoredog wrote:
Glad you feel better, but you probably won't when you realize your machine failed basic 3rd grade math

When you add up the following indices, it should come out to (taking off my socks):

AI: O.6
HI: 0,6
------------
Tot:1.2 <---this is what your individual AHI works out to be when doing the math.

Your machine reported AHI=4.4? or are you missing some toes?

Not missing any toes, Snoredog (everyone has 4 on each foot right?), but the averages didn't come from the machine, they came from the Excel spreadsheet that I enter the daily data into. Probably a minor mistake in one of my formulas (or else Microsoft is now failing 3rd grad math).

AdmiralCougar · Post by **AdmiralCougar** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:28 pm

Slinky wrote:AdmiralCougar, I so had to laugh. But its a case of misery loves company. I'm running into the same thing! But to make it even funnier I have to give you a bit of our history.

When we first go married, the two of us slept TOGETHER on a fold-up, roll away cot. Now, in case you aren't familiar with them, they are the size and width of a TWIN BED. (Ain't love grand?). We slept quite well, thank you.

Eventually we graduated to a double bed. (Queens and Kings weren't available back then except maybe to the Rich and Famours). We slept on that double bed for YEARS with no problems. (Ahhh, good sleep, good marriage). But eventually, altho we replaced the mattress twice the springs gave out. The mattress stayed firm due to a 4'x8' sheet of plywood between mattress and springs. It got to the point sleeping on a mattress over that spring was like sleeping in an active water bed! Every little move and we ROCKED! Since hubby outweighs me by about 70 lbs it wasn't always fun. (Ain't love grand?). Other than the Rock and Roll we slept together just fine.

Ahhh, finally I buy us a Queen size bed with pillow top mattress. Ahhhhh! ROOM to sleep right? WRONG! I still have the same narrow space on the new mattress. Hubby enjoys the entire rest of the mattress and now when he flops over on his side towards me, FLOP! I get a hand in my face, my ribs, my back, etc. I'm thinking I shouldda bought TWIN BEDS!

But after all these years? Twin beds? On the other hand, there has been more than one night I've had the urge to PUNCH him! I have GOT to somehow convince him to have a sleep evaluation. He snores, he stops breathing, he has the rhythmic, gentle leg and foot movements that can ALSO drive me crazy. He has high BP for which he takes medication. I've threatened to trade him in on a goat and shoot the goat if he won't go in for a sleep evaluation but so far .... hey, I've got 43 years invested in this guy. And then there's that darn "ain't love grand?" bit .... *sigh* I just talked to my sleep doc about him the other day and he says he will understand if I make an appointment for my hubby and my hubby stands him up. So ....

Yeah that's how my husband and I started 7 years ago. We were living in a Motor Home and the bed in the back was a twin.
We then when we moved to France for a study abroad, we had 2 twins that we pushed together.
When we moved back home a friend's parents gave us an old Double mattress when we moved in with her.
We graduated to a Queen size when we moved home with my parents. and it's exactly the same way. Between him and the dog I sleep hanging over the edge of the bed.

msheda wrote:At least your incidents are accidents.

My first wife would have a dream, then wake up and punch me. I asked what that was for and she would answer that she dreamed I had been running around with someone else.

Now this hasn't happened since I started on BiPAP, but I would hit the guy back... I'd wake up in the process of hitting him. I would have some kind of dream and it wouldn't necessarily be about him. But he's been hitting me kicking me elbowing me for a while before I started punching him. My mom insists I was subconsciously getting him back.

By the way we've been married for almost 7 1/2 years. We had dated in High School, so we've been together since spring of 1994 for a total of 13 1/2 years. We even got married the same weekend that we started dating, which was a band trip down to Disneyland for band days.

Christy

OwlCreekObserver · Post by **OwlCreekObserver** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:00 pm

msheda wrote:At least your incidents are accidents.

My first wife would have a dream, then wake up and punch me. I asked what that was for and she would answer that she dreamed I had been running around with someone else.

All of which confirms Murphy's 14th Law on Sex: Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself.

OCO

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:27 pm

Right on, OwlCreekObserver. By the way, love your uniform!

floppysleeper · Post by **floppysleeper** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:39 pm

My hubby is convinced we need a "sleep number bed" I have told him "I already have your number baby"

MRH · Post by **MRH** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:28 pm

It is funny how spouses can be! My wife is a bit hard of hearing and never noticed my stopping breathing, she did complain about the snoring though! Anyway after my sleep study she was always (And still does) putting her hand on my chest to see if I am breathing Wakes me up! One night I was already awake (Before I had the CPAP) and she put her hand on my chest to see if I was breathing or not, since she didn't hear me snoring. I couldn't resist, my ornery streak came out, I just kept quiet, until she started kicking my leg Then I told her I was awake!!

Mark

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