Legend Full Face Mask

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Legend Full Face Mask

Post by Sequoia » Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:40 pm

Well I have a new full face mask which I have had a couple of weeks. The Legend. It's very comfortable and it doesn't have the head brace which is great since I also wear glasses and like to read in bed from time to time. Its entirely clear so for you claustrophobic out there is a plus. When it leaks all you have to do is either adjust the straps.

The headgear is also very comfortable. It doesn't need any added padding and best of all its cheap. The mask is $68.00 Us Dollars plus a 10% discount on the first order. You can order it at http://www.myrespiratorysupply.com

Heres what it looks like:

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Post by greyhound » Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:12 pm

Can you supply some links that describe the mask.

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Re: Legend Full Face Mask

Post by Sergey45 » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:49 pm

Looks not bad.
Question: is this mask quiet? If it is, comparing to which masks?
Thanks.

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Post by azaloune » Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:35 pm

As sequoia's wife, I can say, it is quieter than the hybrid, the UMFF and the mojo.
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Post by Snoredog » Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:43 pm

look nice, price is attractive and if works all the better. But like many masks you don't know until you try it.

From the picture, there is NO forehead support, while that may be nice for reading a book, so was Vista and it was horrible to sleep with. My experience trying masks without that feature had a tendency to either leak or apply too much pressure opposite where you wanted it. If you think about it, there are many FF masks with no forehead support, they are also not very popular.

-Forehead support allows you to pivot the mask parallel to the face to reduce pressure over the nose and/or stop leaks into the eyes of which you want to avoid at all costs if you value your vision.

Next comes noise, glad to see the comment it is quieter than the UMFF and the Hybrid, but I found the Hybrid much more noisy than the UMFF and both more noisy than Soyala of which I've found the be the quietest of any mask I've ever used.

Next comes comfort and ability to seal against the face, if you have to cinch down on the straps until your head turns blue to control leaks, the lower cost of the mask doesn't mean much.

But it looks like a nice simple design what is the intentional flow rate at 10 cm pressure? Did it come with a flow chart?

Headgear is headgear to me, that headgear looks fine, I assume those are quick release clips on the bottom? Those are a must, how about removing the top straps? Doesn't appear to have any quick release clips there, is there a hidden slot where the headgear can be completely removed for cleaning purposes without losing your strap tension settings.

I don't have insurance and buy all my own equipment, so that $68 price tag is nice, I could even get by with a few inconveniences for that price. But it would have to work and feel better than my Soyala to pull me away from it.

Thanks for the report, maybe after I hear a few more positive reports I'll order one and give it try. Maybe if I sell all the duds I have in my dud drawer I could buy one.

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Post by Sequoia » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:18 pm

Actually I don't have any trouble sleeping in it. It also handles the pressures well considering I use a Vpap with the pressure setting that range from 14-10. The top straps are Velcro attached so that they can be removed for cleaning. The only leakage problems I've had is when I first got the mask and the fine adjustments to get it to fit right. It comes with a flow and leakage chart to make sure everything is working right.

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Post by Snoredog » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:32 pm

Sequoia wrote:Actually I don't have any trouble sleeping in it. It also handles the pressures well considering I use a Vpap with the pressure setting that range from 14-10. The top straps are Velcro attached so that they can be removed for cleaning. The only leakage problems I've had is when I first got the mask and the fine adjustments to get it to fit right. It comes with a flow and leakage chart to make sure everything is working right.
Thanks, that is what it looked like from the pictures, top straps just velcro, no quick-release, no-release "slot". That means you will be ripping the velcro loose every time you need to clean the mask which isn't hard it just means you will be losing your strap tension settings. Velcro on some headgear give out prematurely when you do that.

Flow chart is to indicate the intentional leak rate or exhaust rate of the mask. Knowing what that particular mask flows @ 10 cm gives a person an idea how much leak can be expected compared to other masks they may have used.

For example, the first Hybrid that came out had such a high intentional leak rate it made for a noisy mask and machine, because the exhaust leak rate was higher than other masks, it made your machine rev up much higher to compensate which made overall therapy more noisy. Then that rate was so high that it caused problems with some autopap machines in providing optimal therapy.

Eventually the makers of the Hybrid came out with a new exhaust assembly to reduce the intentional leak rate, even they realized it was too high.

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Post by azaloune » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:24 pm

To make sure you get the info you asked for; Here is the leak rate chart that came with the mask.
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Sequoia is new at this. This is the first mask he has had success with, and has tried 4 in 2 titration studies and 2 + weeks on BiPAP. His biggest issue: he is a mouth breather with facial hair (Moustache and sometimes beard). We, as a couple have discussed the taping issue, and polident strips, and have decided it is not for us. I have no issue keeping my mouth closed and, due to previous medical issues, he can't breathe thru his nose well at all.

His comfort and nasal issues, means there is no sense trying a hybrid or a liberty, and he is limited to full face masks and the oracle. We had never heard of this mask, but, the sleep lab had it. It took us forever to find one to purchase. We wanted to make sure others didn't have the same problems.

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