Ever Notice how some threads. . .

[DawnTCB]

Especially since I'm not mean enough to win one.

Jen - I just have to say that it is really hard for me to picture you truly ticked off with that smiling avatar. It is very incongruous to read your angry words next to your smile!

Dawn

[roster]

...... Now, do you win by distance or is it based on volume? Is there a commitee than governs the rules of the contest? ...........

Weigh each contestant's pants before the competition and again at the end of the competition. Take the 'after' weight and subtract the 'before' weight. The contestant with the lowest value is declared the winner.

[oceanpearl]

I've have always wondered what the prize was for a pissing contest, since so many people want to get into them. Now, do you win by distance or is it based on volume? Is there a commitee than governs the rules of the contest? Are there leagues? If you you take diuretics is that considered doping? Do people with weak bladders have a natural advantage in the scoring?

Mike (Clearly in need of sleep)

What a sheltered childhood you must have had.
A PISSING CONTEST is when several teenaged boys whip it out and see who can piss the flongest distance.
Sometimes they stand in a large circle and pee inwards, taking a step forward on command, the first person that refuses to step forward is the first looser, The last person standing is declared the winner. Let's just say that I have never been peed on.

[socknitster]

You guys make me smile. MikeMoran, I was so pleased to see your humor in a thread I started--your book is on my wishlist at Amazon.

Yeah, it is uncharacteristic for me to let people tick me off. I'm a pretty mellow person. Just a moment of being too tired. My avatar is a pic from one of the happiest moments of my life--playing in a herd of sheep. Since I'm a "Knitting Nancy" I love wool and I love the sweet gentle but inquisitive nature of sheep. They are delightful, if dirty, companions. And I adore their fur. Someday I hope to have a few of my own, have a bucolic life for my son, like I enjoyed as a child--playing outside all day every day with only my imagination as my guide.

And, I can't believe, with the light of day, that I let a guy who cinches people up in tight belts around their abdomens and then asks them ever so sweetly to go to sleep so he can check for apnea events get my feathers in a fluff. I can't imagine what kind of person would volunteer for that kind of experiment, that they could possibly sleep, or that the data means anything since people don't sleep with tight belts around their waistes in any sense of reality known to man--no matter how fat they are.

Ooops, Rooster, maybe I should have weighed my panties before I logged on today?

I think coffee drinkers with large bladders would have the advantage in a pissing contest, but alas, being female, I don't have any aim!

Jen

[tangents]

dsm said:

Mike,

You left out taste

Someone always goes one step too far. Eeeewwww!

Thankfully, I have no sense of propriety, and found dsm's addition quite amusing. However, pissing contests are a sore spot with me, being female. For obvious reasons. It's just not fair that I've never been able to see my name in yellow on freshly fallen snow. One of my favorite expressions (don't ask where it came from, I have no idea, my husband taught it to me) is:

"Balls!", said the queen, "if I had two, I'd be king!"

Jen, I'm glad you feel better this morning. I love your Avatar, but I have to say that I have no trouble seeing you as a spitfire, too! Nothing wrong with that, IMO. Jennmary, it was nice of you to back her up, too. I would have jumped to both of your defenses if I had been on line last evening. It's that "last word" syndrome, though, that you can never win.

Have a great day, everyone,
Cathy

[DreamStalker]

Oh puh-leeezze. Gag me with a spoon!

Mr. Will …. I’m blown away by your originality -- turn down your PAP machine Will 'ya

It's what makes forums fun. Life with everyone agreeing and sticking to the norm would be dull. I'd rather see some feather ruffled every now and then than live with a bunch of phlegmatics.

Ain’t that for real?

Hey that split-city guy is always coming around here to ruffle feathers

One altercation with Snoredog constitutes always?

If you click on your Profile button, you can view all of your past posts.

with outrageous hypothesis.

Yep, just as outrageous as people believing that the Earth was flat, that the Earth was the centre of the universe and that the Moon was perfectly round?

Explain why increased pressure in the abdomen is not a likely force to push the diaphragm and airways up towards the end, perhaps reduces tension in the upper airway, making it more collapsible. There is evidence to support that the airway becomes more collapsible if you reduce the amount of stretch on it and vice-versa. Diaphragm ascent may reduce tension on the airway. Is this really that outrageous??

Agreed, many known facts started out as outrageous hypothesis … but not all of them (ie. lobotomies no longer cure mental illness).

I’m not saying that being fat does not contribute to OSA … IMHO, to say that beer bellies (ie. implying that being fat) “causes” OSA is an outrageous hypothesis.

Although he may be a bright guy, he has no practical experience

So working in a sleeb lab, performing research studies on OSA patients infers no practical experience?

I think most on this forum will agree that working in a sleep lab, performing research studies on OSA patients does not constitute expertise/experience with OSA.

Have you ever been fat? … and I don’t mean just having a belly full of beer.
Have you ever had OSA?
Have you ever used a PAP machine?

his view of the journals that he reads is illuminated only by the reflections off the ivory tower and not the true light that shines upon the real world

You do realise that these same journal articles are the same ones which inform us about:

The risk of developing skin cancer following excessive exposure to the sun

Or the risk of lung cancer if you smoke

Or the risk of diabetes if you eat too much sugary food

Or the risk of having a car accident following a few too many to drink

Or the risk of OSA on cognitive function

Are these journal articles gibberish?

If I may borrow a quote … “Where have I ever said” that these journal articles are gibberish? Perhaps I was referring to the perspective of the reader?

Anyway, I’m all out of pee now … so I’ll excuse myself from this contest.


Jen – I’m sorry I peed on your thread … I just was not able to hold back. I’m sure you understand how those of us who have experienced OSA have a hard time controlling our bladders

[OwlCreekObserver]

The problem with pi**ing contests is that sometimes even the innocent bystanders get wet. Please 'scuse me while I take a quick shower.



OCO

[socknitster]

Roberto said;

Jen – I’m sorry I peed on your thread … I just was not able to hold back. I’m sure you understand how those of us who have experienced OSA have a hard time controlling our bladders

No prob, Rob. I already peed on it this morning too.

But at least I peed with a little more of my usual decorum and humor than I was capable of last night in my sleep deprived state!

So I declare we all just mark our territories today, like dogs! My female pekingese (who will take on a Rottweiler if you let her) will lift her little leg any chance she can. My more mild mannered male shih tzu just squats. I have to say I'm more amused by watching my Trixie pee on everything in site when I take her for a walk!

Although, after a while you just want to drag her home!

Jen

[roster]

The problem with pi**ing contests is that sometimes even the innocent bystanders get wet. Please 'scuse me while I take a quick shower.



OCO

You seem to be dressed appropriately for such a contest.

[Lepeu63]

I've have always wondered what the prize was for a pissing contest, since so many people want to get into them. Now, do you win by distance or is it based on volume? Is there a commitee than governs the rules of the contest? Are there leagues? If you you take diuretics is that considered doping? Do people with weak bladders have a natural advantage in the scoring?

Mike (Clearly in need of sleep)

Generally, eating 6 to 8 stalks of asparagas 1/2 hour before guarantees a win.

[DreamStalker]

with outrageous hypothesis.

Yep, just as outrageous as people believing that the Earth was flat, that the Earth was the centre of the universe and that the Moon was perfectly round?

Explain why increased pressure in the abdomen is not a likely force to push the diaphragm and airways up towards the end, perhaps reduces tension in the upper airway, making it more collapsible. There is evidence to support that the airway becomes more collapsible if you reduce the amount of stretch on it and vice-versa. Diaphragm ascent may reduce tension on the airway. Is this really that outrageous??

Agreed, many known facts started out as outrageous hypothesis … but not all of them (ie. lobotomies no longer cure mental illness).

I’m not saying that being fat does not contribute to OSA … IMHO, to say that beer bellies (ie. implying that being fat) “causes” OSA is an outrageous hypothesis.

Ok, I noticed that you added to the other thread (the one that initiated this one) and I now see that perhaps there has been a miscommunication of your view/hypothesis.

You are not hypothesizing that obesity (or belly fat) “causes” OSA but that indeed it “contributes” to it. If that is correct, I apologize for my statement that your hypothesis is outrageous … my bad. I thought it was already known that being fat contributes to OSA (how do you get a PhD for a study on that?). My one other observation however, is that you omitted a comparison to neck fat from your hypothesis.

[jennmary]

What the hell is wrong with you spit-city? Some of us came to this thread to get AWAY from you and your arguement.....then you come to an anti fighting thread and start a fight. Jen started this thread because she was tired or YOU. Grow up.

I am going to work now....but am sure than when I get home I will find more of your imature stupidity. Please prove me wrong.

[Goofproof]

I've have always wondered what the prize was for a pissing contest, since so many people want to get into them. Now, do you win by distance or is it based on volume? Is there a commitee than governs the rules of the contest? Are there leagues? If you you take diuretics is that considered doping? Do people with weak bladders have a natural advantage in the scoring?

Mike (Clearly in need of sleep)

I think it's just another form of show and tell. Hold the Lasix, no doping allowed. Jim

Does the XPAP treatment give us a advantage in range due to the added pressure, not if you are mouthbreathing.

[Snoredog]

Hey that split-city guy is always coming around here to ruffle feathers

One altercation with Snoredog constitutes always?

with outrageous hypothesis.

Yep, just as outrageous as people believing that the Earth was flat, that the Earth was the centre of the universe and that the Moon was perfectly round?

Explain why increased pressure in the abdomen is not a likely force to push the diaphragm and airways up towards the end, perhaps reduces tension in the upper airway, making it more collapsible. There is evidence to support that the airway becomes more collapsible if you reduce the amount of stretch on it and vice-versa. Diaphragm ascent may reduce tension on the airway. Is this really that outrageous??

Although he may be a bright guy, he has no practical experience

So working in a sleeb lab, performing research studies on OSA patients infers no practical experience?

his view of the journals that he reads is illuminated only by the reflections off the ivory tower and not the true light that shines upon the real world

You do realise that these same journal articles are the same ones which inform us about:

The risk of developing skin cancer following excessive exposure to the sun

Or the risk of lung cancer if you smoke

Or the risk of diabetes if you eat too much sugary food

Or the risk of having a car accident following a few too many to drink

Or the risk of OSA on cognitive function

Are these journal articles gibberish?

..... it all sounds more like


to me

[socknitster]

Or the risk of diabetes if you eat too much sugary food

There is absolutely no correlation between how much sugar you eat and whether or not you get diabetes. THAT is an old wives tale. Diabetes is a metabolic disorder that regulates insulin which converts sugar in the bloodstream. Type one diabetes occurs in children and has NOTHING to do with how much sugar they consume, their pancreas just don't produce enough insulin, usually from birth.

Type II diabetes is a metabolic disorder related in part to body weight and other health factors. You can control it by eating foods with a lower glycemic index that part is true if you are already a diabetic, but you can't CAUSE diabetes itself by eating sugar.

Calories in/calories out--if you eat too many calories, period, in any form--fat, protein, or carb, for your personal metabolism, you may gain the extra pounds that could contribute to the metabolic disorder. It is complex and has to do with hormones stored in body fat disrupting the production of insulin.

It is far more complicated than eating too much sugar. You are going to have to use better arguments if you really want to win the pissing contest, S_C.

I could sit here and quote studies from WebMD, but it isn't worth wasting my time.

Here is a link that you might find educational:
http://www.mydr.com.au/default.asp?article=3989


jen