essential oils

[Motoapco25]

anyone having problems with ordering a starter pack from the website?

[bookwrm63]

Moto,

Try this page:

http://www.pur-sleep.com/products/

It seems there is a problem with the home page but others work fine.

Good luck.

Mary

[SleepGuy]

The website (and ebay store) are closed and nothing will be available for sale pending completion of another round of R&D process. Stay posted.

[Guest]

What happened?

[SleepGuy]

What happened?

I decided to pause the business and turn the project over to an outstanding medical product developer/consultant to revisit the R&D process (cross all the Ts etc.). That's all.

[Sleepy-eyes]

Good for you! It's a shame, but some doubt the effectiveness and safety of your product, Bret. Hope the results will put to rest the issues brought to focus by just a few on the forum.

[SleepGuy]

Good for you! It's a shame, but some doubt the effectiveness and safety of your product, Bret. Hope the results will put to rest the issues brought to focus by just a few on the forum.

Thanks, Chris. From my point of view, all of the questions as to safety and effectiveness are completely fair and should be and need to be fully asked, evaluated, considered, answered, and resolved. I have found all of the discussions on the boards to be helpful, useful, and relevant.

Every technical person I've worked with on this project think that the ideas have a great deal of merit. I just need to be certain that the implementation is completely sound. And for that I have to rely on the right people to help out (after all, I'm just a dumb lawyer--what do I know about any of this?).

[-SWS]

Good luck, Bret.

APAP algorithms interpret subtleties in flow wave shape in highly proprietary ways. I would suggest having your R&D team look at any diffuser-introduced subtle wave shape alterations as being potential APAP "signal skewers".

Hope Pur-Sleep makes it back soon, safe and sound.

[dsm]

Dr B,

Speaking systematically from a fundamental point of view I'm forced to conclude that your fundamental facilities are insufficiently sophisticated to combasticate with your espoused personal philosophy. Therefore according to my extensive calculations you're bound to come up with some humorous anecdotes and clangers from time to time!!



Peter

Fair dinkum, mate. Don't want to come across as a complete drongo!
http://tinyurl.com/ypexfy

Jeeze Dr B,

Yer Aussie speech is right-on mate! - that drongo bit was a corker not too many septics could ave spoken a sent'nce like that - ya must be from Oz - are yer ?

Cheers

Dsm

[Ric]

Dr B,

Speaking systematically from a fundamental point of view I'm forced to conclude that your fundamental facilities are insufficiently sophisticated to combasticate with your espoused personal philosophy. Therefore according to my extensive calculations you're bound to come up with some humorous anecdotes and clangers from time to time!!



Peter

Fair dinkum, mate. Don't want to come across as a complete drongo!
http://tinyurl.com/ypexfy

Jeeze Dr B,

Yer Aussie speech is right-on mate! - that drongo bit was a corker not too many septics could ave spoken a sent'nce like that - ya must be from Oz - are yer ?

Cheers

Dsm

You QUACK ME UP !!!



What started with mere HYSTERICS is now HYSTERICAL! (that's progress)

I would like to remind Bret that this is the same one-germ-is-one-germ-too-many audience that tried to convince us that applying Chapstick® would lead to an agonizing and horrific death by lipid pneumonia (tons of "data" to back it up), the same folks that tried to convince us that new and strange lifeforms were evolving in our HH reservoirs and crawling up our heated hoses to invade our nasopharyngeal passages and (eventually) gain control of the planet, (this may have already happened, I can't tell for sure), the same people who knit sweaters for their poodles, believe the planet is simultaneously freezing and melting, and absolutely SCREAM at the sight of a mosquito !



It's not right to humor them, they are absolutely well-intentioned, good-hearted, and have our best interests in mind.

I confess I tuned in late to this thread, although I was aware of the product early on. I declined to "test drive" it, not because I could think of any flaws in the design or purpose. It is after all "downstream" from the xPAP, and needs to be regulated by the FDA, same as my nose. Rather I am prone to allergies, and I kind of like the 7 or 8 hrs of "olfactory-neutral" state, breathing doubly filtered and humidified air that the APAP provides. When I ditch the mask in the morning I experience an enhanced sense of smell, everything from my socks somewhere in the next room (not a challenge) to someone making coffee three blocks over. I'm pretty sure I could locate my car keys ANYWHERE just by smell of brass, or bodies under a 20' deep avalanche. (haven't actually tried it). These special powers go away after about 30 minutes of the real world (whatever that is).

I've changed my mind. I would now pay RETAIL to try this! I'm convinced there are no DEATH COOTIES involved, and that the lavender will not rot my brain (too late anyway) nor will it grow hair on the inside of my lungs. PLEASE! GIVE ME A SECOND CHANCE !!!



Everything about this is absolutely common, indeed ordinary. Lavender has been around since the (forgot which) day of creation. In-line filters have been used in sleep labs for many years, and sold openly on the internet without a prescription or a license, or a note from the mayor, and without anyone screaming and calling up the National Guard or the Salvation Army to protect us from this horrible evil. Are the above detractors equally HYSTERICAL about car air fresheners? HOLY COW MAN! Think how many times you breathe that stuff in and out, in and out... especially with other passengers in the car. UGGGGGH! I can't bear to THINK about where those molecules have been! And they all have horrible chemical-sounding names! Those puppies should be regulated by the FDA, CDC, and the SPCA.
(actually it doesn't bother me, really.)

Good luck, Bret.

APAP algorithms interpret subtleties in flow wave shape in highly proprietary ways. I would suggest having your R&D team look at any diffuser-introduced subtle wave shape alterations as being potential APAP "signal skewers".

Hope Pur-Sleep makes it back soon, safe and sound.

I second all of that -SWS. And furthermore, the inline filters sold online should be likewise vetted lest they too compromise the delicately nuanced waveforms that we love, have come to rely on, and have made our lives so meaningful. (or whatever). Lucky this thread happened!


Bret, the above said is not to detract from your ingenuity and entrepenurial instinct in thinking this up and putting it together, designing, testing, packaging, and etc. etc. etc.... I admire that, and I bet you've learned a lot about developing and bringing a product to market. But don't give up. My advice would be to drop the claims about "beautifying the skin", "improving the memory", "curing warts", and "improving the odds at winning the lottery". Those are difficult. In fact don't make any claims at all. Your ads should run something like... "If you MUST put lavender up your nose, here is a cool way to do that". Nothing more. (you have my permission to use that line). And all the usual disclaimers: "WARNING: THE SURGEON GENERAL HAS NEVER SEEN THIS DEVICE, BUT IF HE DID I'M SURE HE WOULD NOT APPROVE", and "WARNING: THIS PRODUCT MAY OR MAY NOT CONTAIN CHEMICALS KNOWN TO CAUSE CANCER IN CALIFORNIANS", etc.

Having said that, I give your product a prototypically preliminary thumbs-up.



(and my apologies to Zack, use of the above does not constitute
an endorsement or recommendation by the sponsors of this forum, it's
subsidaries, it's affiliates, and blah blah blah... I actually found it on
Google images looking for a thumbs-up clip. Thanks Zack.)

NOW GET BACK IN BUSINESS !!!

-Ric

[dsm]

Ric mate yer a champion

Gotta give 10 points fer that one

DSM

[bookwrm63]

I laughed so hard I almost peed my pants!!! Thanks for that Ric!

[roster]

Atta boy Ric,

What a refreshing summary of the situation. Especially pleasantly surprising coming from the Left Coast.

rooster
Right Coast

[-SWS]

Ric's humor and insight always make for pleasurable reading IMHO. So good to see those humorous posts of his, both old and new.

[harikarishimari]

What started with mere HYSTERICS is now HYSTERICAL!
(that's progress)

ok, I agree with that part.

...new and strange lifeforms were evolving in our HH reservoirs and crawling up our heated hoses to invade our nasopharyngeal passages and (eventually) gain control of the planet, (this may have already happened, I can't tell for sure)

Sorry to break this to you, they have, they did, and they now control congress.

the same people who... absolutely SCREAM at the sight of a mosquito !

I do that. Where's the problem?????

I confess I tuned in late to this thread...

yes FOO, your posts have gotten a bit few and far between. EXPLAIN!

PLEASE! GIVE ME A SECOND CHANCE!!!

Forget that other stuff........ I WANT THAT COOKIE !

Are the above detractors equally HYSTERICAL about car air fresheners? ... Those puppies should be regulated by the FDA, CDC, and the SPCA.

Here I must totally disagree, those "puppies" should be BANNED outright. UGGGGH!

But NOT poodles. NO! and NO! NO! NO! (More disagreement.)

-HKS