COVID 19, CPAP, Ventilator MEGA THREAD...everything go here please

[chunkyfrog]

I have read that the sense of smell becomes muted or non-existent during an infection.
But what odors should I test myself on?
Chocolate?
Peanut butter?
Vicks?

[McSleepy]

I have read that the sense of smell becomes muted or non-existent during an infection.
But what odors should I test myself on?
Chocolate?
Peanut butter?
Vicks?

I heard that Strawberries Arnaud are one of the best indicators of lost smell in COVID-19 cases.

McSleepy

[jnk...]

The husband . . . has tested positive for COVID-19. . . . Gramps was in their garden with the husband four days ago. . . . did get close enough to pass three tomatoes to Gramps.

Gramps just earned 10 to 14 days of strict quarantine, in my non-pro opinion.

[chunkyfrog]

. . .
I heard that Strawberries Arnaud are one of the best indicators of lost smell in COVID-19 cases.

McSleepy

Sounds like an excellent choice--now to run it by Medicare . . .

[jnk...]

"So much of the focus right now still is how many people are getting sick and how many people are dying,” Dr. Chen said — which is natural considering the country remains in a protracted first wave of infections, including 11 straight days with 1,000-plus fatalities. “But it’s not just black and white, about getting better or dying,” he said. “There’s a whole gray spectrum of illness that can happen after COVID-19 that we haven’t even fully learned about yet.”

--MarketWatch: 55% of coronavirus patients still have neurological problems three months later: study.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/55-of ... 2020-08-07

[Setj]

Excited here! I was accepted in the Pfizer mRNA Phase 3 vaccine trial. I'll get my first shot Wednesday. Keeping my fingers crossed that they give me the vaccine and not the placebo!

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... andidate-0

[zonker]

yeah, i know, there's already a meme thread. but i wasn't sure if baby would consider this political or not.

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[khauser]

That's not a meme ... it's a factual statement that sums up how a lot of people feel (including me). It can only be considered political if one's bias makes it so.

[babydinosnoreless]

yeah, i know, there's already a meme thread. but i wasn't sure if baby would consider this political or not.

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Thats not political. Its the truth. I'm exhausted. And both sides the extremes are playing with fire. IMO. I'm pretty freaked out about the whole school thing too. Students need to be in school to learn especially the younger ones. Computers don't do much good if you don't read. At the same time its gonna cause mass spread events. We are pretty much screwed no matter what we do and politicians, once again, on both sides are playing games and waring about the elections. There are no adults in the room!

[Setj]

Excited here! I was accepted in the Pfizer mRNA Phase 3 vaccine trial. I'll get my first shot Wednesday. Keeping my fingers crossed that they give me the vaccine and not the placebo!

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... andidate-0

Following up, while there was no pain during the injection, some hours afterward, the area around the injection site became very sore for 36 hours. Since it is a double-blind study, the clinic did not know whether they were giving me the vaccine or a placebo. My GP said this is a 99% certain indication that they injected the vaccine. A saline solution injection would not have caused this type of reaction. Second shot of a two-dose trial is in three weeks.

According to a new press release from Pfizer yesterday, initial results are very promising. https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... -lead-mrna

[McSleepy]

Excited here! I was accepted in the Pfizer mRNA Phase 3 vaccine trial. I'll get my first shot Wednesday. Keeping my fingers crossed that they give me the vaccine and not the placebo!

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... andidate-0

Following up, while there was no pain during the injection, some hours afterward, the area around the injection site became very sore for 36 hours. Since it is a double-blind study, the clinic did not know whether they were giving me the vaccine or a placebo. My GP said this is a 99% certain indication that they injected the vaccine. A saline solution injection would not have caused this type of reaction. Second shot of a two-dose trial is in three weeks.

According to a new press release from Pfizer yesterday, initial results are very promising. https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... -lead-mrna

Such an obvious distinction between the effects of the real vaccine and the placebo (99%) would make that study not-so-blind... Could it be that they made the placebo a little more sophisticated than simple saline solution? Like, maybe some histamine-based placebo?

McSleepy

[ChicagoGranny]

Like, maybe some histamine-based placebo?

Bad idea. It would no longer be a placebo. The researchers would be comparing the side effects of the vaccine to the side effects of a histamine injection. Ridiculous.

[ChicagoGranny]

Setj

Thank you so much for participating in this very important trial! Please continue to update this thread.

[McSleepy]

Like, maybe some histamine-based placebo?

Bad idea. It would no longer be a placebo. The researchers would be comparing the side effects of the vaccine to the side effects of a histamine injection. Ridiculous.

Really? Do you have any specific knowledge referring to this trial, or are you saying that a placebo may only contain an inert substance in any placebo-controlled trial?

McSleepy

[babydinosnoreless]

Like, maybe some histamine-based placebo?

Bad idea. It would no longer be a placebo. The researchers would be comparing the side effects of the vaccine to the side effects of a histamine injection. Ridiculous.

Really? Do you have any specific knowledge referring to this trial, or are you saying that a placebo may only contain an inert substance in any placebo-controlled trial?

McSleepy

In all clinical trials the placebo may only contain inert substances, the way I understand it.

"Physical identical and pharmacological inert are the basic requirements for placebo design, which are essential in clinical trials to evaluate...". https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... cal_trials