Can Baking Soda be used in humidifier to administer it to the lungs?

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Can Baking Soda be used in humidifier to administer it to the lungs?

Post by DaphneSam » Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:08 am

Hello,
I have lung cancer (and sleep apnea) and I have heard that deluded baking soda in water in direct contact with the cancer location can cure cancer. This therapy is not offered here in the US but in places like Italy. I would like to use the vapor of this baking soda in my CPAP unit to get to my lungs. How much should I use to do this? Thank you!

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Can Baking Soda be used in humidifier to administer it to the lungs?

Post by DaphneSam » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:58 pm

If yes how much should I add to the humidifier? Thanks!

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Post by Pugsy » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:14 pm

Emphatically NO.....never, never ever add something like that to the humidifier. Never.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:20 pm

I am sorry about your cancer;
but I am sorrier still that you are being deceived by charlatans.
Obviously, they know NOTHING, but probably have a plan to remove your money.
Usually, the chief reason why a treatment is not available in the US is because it is complete HOGWASH.

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Post by Julie » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:18 pm

Listen to the frog!

Do you seriously not think that all the oncologists in the US and around the world would not prescribe (of all things) baking soda if they thought for one second that it could cure anything?

Do you not realize they also have families that get cancer and still they can't always help them but would love to, if only they could, using such a well hidden secret like... baking soda?

And you must know that scientists all over the world are in contact with each other all the time, and something so simple (and silly) would have long, long ago been tested (and found to be useless).

I hope you don't normally spend your money, let alone your brain, on things like that... really.

PS - that word is 'diluted'... fwiw.
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Post by Pugsy » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:29 pm

The cold hard fact of life is even if this baking soda thing was a legit treatment....we can't use cpap humidity to transmit it to the lungs.
The water vapors simply won't support it. Water vapors containing moisture simply can't carry anything else. Heck...they have enough trouble carrying moisture sometimes and that's why we get rain out.

It would need to be introduced in more measurable and accurate means similar to maybe what people do for asthma or something like that.

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Post by palerider » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:48 pm

DaphneSam wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:08 am
Hello,
I have lung cancer (and sleep apnea) and I have heard that deluded baking soda in water in direct contact with the cancer location can cure cancer. This therapy is not offered here in the US but in places like Italy. I would like to use the vapor of this baking soda in my CPAP unit to get to my lungs. How much should I use to do this? Thank you!
Wellp, I've heard some crackpot ideas, but this is a doozie.

NO, sodium bicarbonate is a mineral, and will be left behind just like the other minerals are left behind in the water.

If you're determined to do something like this to yourself, (scientific proof?) then you'll need a *nebulizer* of some sort, perhaps an ultrasonic vaporizer, and stick your face in that.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:51 am

palerider wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:48 pm
DaphneSam wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:08 am
Hello,
I have lung cancer (and sleep apnea) and I have heard that deluded baking soda in water in direct contact with the cancer location can cure cancer. This therapy is not offered here in the US but in places like Italy. I would like to use the vapor of this baking soda in my CPAP unit to get to my lungs. How much should I use to do this? Thank you!
Wellp, I've heard some crackpot ideas, but this is a doozie.

NO, sodium bicarbonate is a mineral, and will be left behind just like the other minerals are left behind in the water.

If you're determined to do something like this to yourself, (scientific proof?) then you'll need a *nebulizer* of some sort, perhaps an ultrasonic vaporizer, and stick your face in that.
On the outside chance you could hack such an item----DON'T.

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:11 am

DaphneSam wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:08 am
I have lung cancer
I'm so sorry and hope your oncology team is providing excellent treatment.
DaphneSam wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:08 am
baking soda in water in direct contact with the cancer location can cure cancer
That's not at all true, although some of the news stories made it sound like this. The news stories were based off a small study targeting intratumoral lactic-acidosis with transarterial chemoembolization. The small study did not show a cure, although in some patients the mortality was thought to be delayed by a few weeks or months. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5954837/ ) Note, it would take a skilled oncologist to administer the treatment. Breathing any amount of baking soda would not at all be effective.

There are thousands of pages on the internet touting baking soda as a cure. None of the authors of these pages are oncologists.

Please depend on your oncology teams for proper treatment. All the best to you.

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Post by D.H. » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:26 am

This is certainly not approved in the US! I'm not aware that it's approved anywhere else in the world.

I cannot comment of the efficacy of this treatment other than to state that there are quack remedies all over internet. They are the heirs to the traveling snake oil salesmen of the 19th century!

Also, it's not recommended to put anything other than water (preferable distilled water) in the humidification chamber.

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Post by palerider » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:55 am

D.H. wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:26 am
(preferable distilled water)
Will you quit that crap already?

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Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:41 pm

Apparently, he does not follow his own advice--
because then he would not be able to continue to vex us.

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Post by DaphneSam » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:32 am

Thank you everyone for your helpful answers. I was curious and wanted to know if people were doing this kind of thing and if it worked.

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Post by DaphneSam » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:35 am

What about a super distilled ozenated water of some kind? Could that help? Thanks!

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:36 am

DaphneSam wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:35 am
What about a super distilled ozenated water of some kind? Could that help? Thanks!
Super No