COVID 19, CPAP, Ventilator MEGA THREAD...everything go here please

[zonker]

Yeah, we all hate guys like that, don't we.

yeah!

Uhh, gentlemen, is it absolutely necessary to talk in riddles?
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yeah!

[Lucyhere]

Yeah, we all hate guys like that, don't we.

yeah!

Uhh, gentlemen, is it absolutely necessary to talk in riddles?

yeah!
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Me thinks that depends on the person(s) you are channeling.

[jnk...]

Uhh, gentlemen, is it absolutely necessary to talk in riddles?

The only riddle here is, Who are these "gentlemen" of which thou speaketh?

Sorry. I'll try to behave. This is a VERY serious thread Zonker and I are in the process of ruining. Wouldn't be the first.

I have great respect for any humanitarian efforts to get the test data and contact tracing needed to accomplish what needs so desperately to get done until effective treatments and vaccines are available, IF they are ever available. Kudos to the likes of Gates and Bloomberg.

[babydinosnoreless]

Or maybe they just resent how he outsmarted IBM.

Either way.

by stealing an operating system and selling it to them as his own?

By having the audacity to know at an instant in time what was most needed and important and historically significant, to the embarrassment of the short-sighted establishment.

Yeah, we all hate guys like that, don't we.

yeah!

Uhh, gentlemen, is it absolutely necessary to talk in riddles?

I got the reference. Omg, I am old.

[Lucyhere]

by stealing an operating system and selling it to them as his own?

By having the audacity to know at an instant in time what was most needed and important and historically significant, to the embarrassment of the short-sighted establishment.

Yeah, we all hate guys like that, don't we.

yeah!

Uhh, gentlemen, is it absolutely necessary to talk in riddles?

I got the reference. Omg, I am old.

Yeah! Me too. BTW... what WAS the reference?

[chunkyfrog]

If I still had the requisite number of living brain cells, I might get it.

[babydinosnoreless]

By having the audacity to know at an instant in time what was most needed and important and historically significant, to the embarrassment of the short-sighted establishment.

Yeah, we all hate guys like that, don't we.

yeah!

Uhh, gentlemen, is it absolutely necessary to talk in riddles?

I got the reference. Omg, I am old.

Yeah! Me too. BTW... what WAS the reference?

Its an old rumor "But by far the most famous story of missed fame and fortune is that of Gary Kildall. A pioneer in computer operating systems, Kildall wrote Control Program for Microcomputers (CP/M), the operating system used on many of the early hobbyist personal computers, such as the MITS Altair 8800, the IMSAI 8080, and the Osborne 1, before IBM introduced its own machine, the PC. Kildall could have virtually owned the personal computer operating system business, had he sold that system to IBM. He didn’t. Why is a matter of speculation, mundane gossip, and urban legend. We’ll get to that.

Bill Gates at Microsoft, however, did sell an operating system to IBM—and reaped then-unimaginable rewards. A cloud of speculation has hung over that part of the story as well. The big question: Was the operating system Gates sold to IBM his to sell? Or was a key part of it stolen from Kildall?"

[jnk...]

My point, and I think I may have actually had one this time, was that just as Gates (whatever else he did or did not do or invent or understand) recognized the importance of operating systems and licensing, at a time when larger companies did not, and then DID something about it to the later embarrassment and demise of larger companies, Gates now understands the importance of funding meaningful medical testing at a time when some in government appear not to see the underlying point of what is going on all around them and under their very noses. History tends to notice that sort of thing, especially in matters of life and death on a large scale.

Didn't mean to riddle. Meant to be pointed and exact. My bad.

Rome burns as some reach for a fiddle. Oops. Sorry.

[babydinosnoreless]

My point, and I think I may have actually had one this time, was that just as Gates (whatever else he did or did not do or invent or understand) recognized the importance of operating systems and licensing, at a time when larger companies did not, and then DID something about it to the later embarrassment and demise of larger companies, Gates now understands the importance of funding meaningful medical testing at a time when some in government appear not to see the underlying point of what is going on all around them and under their very noses. History tends to notice that sort of thing, especially in matters of life and death on a large scale.

Didn't mean to riddle. Meant to be pointed and exact. My bad.

Rome burns as some reach for a fiddle. Oops. Sorry.

The man is a genius no doubt, but are his motives altruistic or? I just don't know what to make about this whole mess!

[jnk...]

The man is a genius no doubt, but are his motives altruistic or?

Success can feel empty without a useful cause to work for and to feel proud of. I assume his motives are not completely selfish. Respect for the life of others can be considered it's own reward. Trite but true.

I just don't know what to make about this whole mess!

Make a difference by not adding to the mess while being a good neighbor in as responsible a way as you possibly can be right now. Any other choice would be a choice to be alone and lonely, no matter how smart or successful or charismatic we might otherwise be. It's the only way to make friends with the mirror at end of day.

End of silly soapbox rant for the night.

[zonker]

Its an old rumor "But by far the most famous story of missed fame and fortune is that of Gary Kildall. A pioneer in computer operating systems, Kildall wrote Control Program for Microcomputers (CP/M), the operating system used on many of the early hobbyist personal computers, such as the MITS Altair 8800, the IMSAI 8080, and the Osborne 1, before IBM introduced its own machine, the PC. Kildall could have virtually owned the personal computer operating system business, had he sold that system to IBM. He didn’t. Why is a matter of speculation, mundane gossip, and urban legend. We’ll get to that.

Bill Gates at Microsoft, however, did sell an operating system to IBM—and reaped then-unimaginable rewards. A cloud of speculation has hung over that part of the story as well. The big question: Was the operating system Gates sold to IBM his to sell? Or was a key part of it stolen from Kildall?"

baby! i'm impressed. i tried looking up such info but my google-fu is weak.

yup, this is the story i was referencing. my journey into computers started in 1983. as a hobbyist, i (and several co-hobbyist) HATED microsoft and everything they were doing. we held that grudge far longer than i care to admit.

but, boy...if you had told 30 year old me that i'd be typing on a computer that ran on microsoft software someday?

YIKES!!

[DreamDiver]

... i tried looking up such info but my google-fu is weak.

Try bing?

[zonker]

... i tried looking up such info but my google-fu is weak.

Try bing?

as long as we are derailing the thread, i use bing quite a bit when i'm looking for streaming video sources. dailymotion is great, but of course, google is weighted towards youtube.

[jnk...]

Well I guess asking Bing about Gates' MS history would be horse's mouth, or at least asking the fox running the henhouse, or something like that.

Eh, all history is revisionist history.

All I know is Chris cracks me up!

[babydinosnoreless]

Its an old rumor "But by far the most famous story of missed fame and fortune is that of Gary Kildall. A pioneer in computer operating systems, Kildall wrote Control Program for Microcomputers (CP/M), the operating system used on many of the early hobbyist personal computers, such as the MITS Altair 8800, the IMSAI 8080, and the Osborne 1, before IBM introduced its own machine, the PC. Kildall could have virtually owned the personal computer operating system business, had he sold that system to IBM. He didn’t. Why is a matter of speculation, mundane gossip, and urban legend. We’ll get to that.

Bill Gates at Microsoft, however, did sell an operating system to IBM—and reaped then-unimaginable rewards. A cloud of speculation has hung over that part of the story as well. The big question: Was the operating system Gates sold to IBM his to sell? Or was a key part of it stolen from Kildall?"

baby! i'm impressed. i tried looking up such info but my google-fu is weak.

yup, this is the story i was referencing. my journey into computers started in 1983. as a hobbyist, i (and several co-hobbyist) HATED microsoft and everything they were doing. we held that grudge far longer than i care to admit.

but, boy...if you had told 30 year old me that i'd be typing on a computer that ran on microsoft software someday?

YIKES!!

hubby and I were co sysops for a bbs back in the 80's and into the early 90's. I co moderated Rime Star Trek as well as several other Intelec and usenet forums. I remember the rumors well. Gates and his blue screen of death was often cursed. I used to be good with DOS but when it moved on to Windows I was busy raising my little ones and taking care of my parents who were starting to need help. Today I have apple products. I have an old laptop with Windows but its my last resort. I mostly use it for checking sleepyhead. I really need to download Oscar.