Introducing Encore Pro Analyzer (myEncore clone)

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Post by jskinner » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:53 am

DerekB wrote:Is this compatible with non-M machines?
Yes EPA is compatible with all Repironics machines now.

(Depending on which machine there may be a few missing charts due to the data that each stores. For example C-Flex and Humidifier settings seem to only be stored for M machines.)

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Post by jskinner » Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:53 pm

Separate IPAP/EPAP pressure charts have now been implemented for BiPAP users.

Also by popular demand, I have added rudimentary printing capability for night reports.

Cheers, -james


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Post by ZPAP » Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:53 am

James,

Kudos on a very helpful program. Well done!

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Post by hpscp » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:04 pm

Hello. Newbie here. I received my Remstar M AutoCPAP about one month ago. I just received my SmartCard reader and Encore software and I've sent in a request to obtain the EncorePro Analyzer software.

Can anyone point me to a source that can describe the different terms used in sleep apnea analysis? I'm looking for good techical definitions for the different types of data stored on the smartcards including things like Apnea Hypopnea Index (AHI), APAP, IPAP, EPAP, 90% APAP, Leak Rate (what are the units of a Leak Rate?), what constitutes a large leak, snore index, variable breathing.

Whenever 90% is used in a term, does that always refer to 90% of the time the machine is used, you are above some threshold?

I'm ready to start learning. Just wondering where the best source is to learn all this stuff.

Chris


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Post by DreamStalker » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:46 pm

Try the light bulb near the top of the page.

90% refers to the value for which 90% of all values are equal to or less than ... otherwise known as 90th percentile. So if weekly value is say 9 for AHI, then 90 percent of the AHI values are less than or equal to 9 for that week.

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Post by rested gal » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:19 pm

hpscp wrote:Can anyone point me to a source that can describe the different terms used in sleep apnea analysis? I'm looking for good techical definitions for the different types of data stored on the smartcards including things like Apnea Hypopnea Index (AHI), APAP, IPAP, EPAP, 90% APAP, Leak Rate (what are the units of a Leak Rate?), what constitutes a large leak, snore index, variable breathing.

Whenever 90% is used in a term, does that always refer to 90% of the time the machine is used, you are above some threshold?

I'm ready to start learning. Just wondering where the best source is to learn all this stuff.

Chris
Perhaps someone has a single source they can point you to. The "Collective Wisdom" lightbulb at the top that Roberto suggested might have some of the definitions/explanations you're looking for.

In the meantime, perhaps this will help (if I got 'em right, and I could be wrong! )

AHI = Apnea/Hypopnea Index. All the apneas and hypopneas you have throughout the sleep session are added together and divided INTO the number of hours you slept. That gives an average of how many apneas and/or hypopneas you had per hour.

APAP = Auto-titrating cpap or auto-titrating mode of operation. For example, a Respironics REMstar Auto with C-Flex allows these operating modes to be selected in the therapy setup menu:

CPAP - use a single pressure without C-Flex enabled.
CFLE - use a single pressure WITH C-Flex enabled.
APAP - use a range of pressures (auto-titrate) without C-Flex enabled.
AFLE - use a range of pressures (auto-titrate) WITH C-Flex enabled.

The modes of operation in the Respironics BiPAP Auto with Bi-Flex (Bi-Flex works the same as C-Flex):

BPAP - use a higher single pressure for inhaling (IPAP pressure) and a lower single pressure for exhaling (EPAP pressure)
BFLE - same, but with Bi-Flex enabled.
ABPAP - same as BPAP but with auto-titrating enabled.
AbFLE - same as BFLE but with auto-titrating enabled.

90% = the amount of time spent AT or BELOW whatever it is reporting. For example, the 90th percentile pressure means the autopap had to use that pressure AND pressures below that pressure, ninety percent of the time during that session.

It does not mean the machine used that one pressure 90% of the time. It may have used a higher pressure for a brief time, and very likely used lower pressures most of the time.

Leak Rate is measured in liters per minute (l/m) with Respironics and Puritan Bennett machines. It's measured in liters per second (l/s) with resmed machines.

Large Leak (reported by a Respironics machine) is when the leak rate gets so high (mask leaks or mouth leaks when not using a FF mask) that the machine can no longer compensate by simply blowing harder to keep the pressure up. When a "LL" happens, an autopap will drop the pressure back down to the minimum pressure set for the range of pressures and will stop recording/reporting "events" (apneas, hypopneas, flow limitations) for as long as the Large Leak is happening. The periods of "LL" will appear as solid black blocks along the top of the Leak graph in Encore Pro.

Snore index ("VS" - Vibratory Snore Index) = the number of "snores" the machine sensed throughout the night, divided into the number of hours of that session. Gives an average of number of snores per hour.

This may not be true for everyone, but for me the VS (vibratory snore index) is meaningless with any REMstar autopap I've used. For whatever the reason (perhaps an inaudible slight flutter in the airway that causes no problem) the REMstar autos have always tallied up many "snores" but the PB 420E auto registered none or almost none. No snore sounds were noted by bed partner. I just ignore the "snore index" when I use the REMstar auto.

A good description of Encore Pro is here:
viewArticle/Encore-Pro-Respironics-CPAP ... Derek.html

Variable Breathing. I've never had a good understanding of this one and have never really paid attention to it. This post about "Variable Breathing" by StillAnotherGuest is what I'd go with:
viewtopic.php?t=13188

Going beyond the specific things you asked about, here's a link to an interesting post (on page 4) by ozij regarding interpreting the Encore Pro table chart which states the AHI for each pressure:
ozij's post about "events by pressure".
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Post by hpscp » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:43 pm

Wow, thanks, that helps. I have perused the article index or "Collective Wisdom" archive earlier. But I guess I just need to spend more time there and digest things at a slower rate

Thanks again.

Chris

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Post by Offerocker » Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:08 am

THANKS, RESTEDGAL (AGAIN!)

By the way, this is the perfect place to post: I'm going to the Respiratory Dr. this morning. He is associated with a nicely set-up sleep lab here. However, his 'guard dog', (correction, NOT the RT), only extracts the Compliance Data from my smart card! Well, today I am NOT taking the CARD! I'm taking my REPORTS from EncorePro and EncorePro Analyzer (thanks to James Skinner!). Anyone want to put down bets on the reactions I'm going to get when I present those reports and ask for explanations of their meanings?
I said 'guard dog' because that person acts like he owns the place, and it is VERY difficult to communicate with him without getting a s__a__ comment. I take that as a defensive mechanism; we'll see how interested they may be in the source of these reports! The RT probably doesn't know that there are DETAILED reports from the EncorePro program!! Whaddya think?

My next step is to "get with the program" and LEARN about all of this data I've recorded and extracted.

One thing I did notice: more leaks from the CL2 simple cushion than from the Activa. Well, I guess so! That thing (Activa) is like a leech on my face, - but it works.

...more later...

Thanks to ALL
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Post by Wulfman » Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:23 am

Offerocker wrote:Anyone want to put down bets on the reactions I'm going to get when I present those reports and ask for explanations of their meanings?
Sounds like a "sucker bet" to me....

Good luck, Kathleen.

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Post by Offerocker » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:37 pm

Wulfman wrote:
Offerocker wrote:Anyone want to put down bets on the reactions I'm going to get when I present those reports and ask for explanations of their meanings?
Sounds like a "sucker bet" to me....

Good luck, Kathleen.

Den
Sucker Bet, Den? You bet! And NO ONE BIT! No dummies HERE!!

The "Dr." (pulmonary) made no appearance, but a Nurse Practicioner did - she was easier to talk with anyway, but only asked about my compliance, amount of sleep, how I feel in the morning, etc. And asked about my having an "Auto", and where I got it. I told her about the experience with the (backward: live ) DME experience I'd had.

Oh, and new DME hadn't FAX'd them either of the overnight pulse-ox reports (one w/o oxy, one with). Hmmmmm So I left a message w/them re that.

"Guard dog" was there, but didn't even ask for my card this time!

Not really sure why I was there...hmmm ($$$???),,, but DID get my weight, bp, and pulse checked (all of which I can do myself)! I had to ASK what each reading was, but he (Guard dog) wouldn't tell me the pulse - probably disappointed that it didn't go UP/or over 80, HA HA. Poor guy. I'm bad, I know.

However, the nice NP did let me know that there IS a "sleep specialist" in their group, and my next appt will be with him, at a closer location - at least "I think so" - they'll call me, ha ha.

And my nice printouts? They were just "pretty things" to add to the top of my chart; surprised that they asked to keep them...I'll probably see them as wallpaper somewhere!

No one I saw was able to 'splain any of the charts - not even the 'compliant' one, ha ha...they just didn't want any part of it. I shoulda told them I had money riding on it, HA HA!!!!

Oh, two positives for the trip: 1 flue shot, one referral.
And 12 bills, undoubtedly.

All in all, everything pertinent could have been handled via phone call. As far as they know, I lied about everything, right? What a way to run a business! BUT they have a VERY NICE sleep lab - I bet that's where today's insurance money went, and I'm NOT taking bets against that!! .

Now then, who is working on the software to pull data from the Nelcor N-395??? Compliant = independence.


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Post by Wulfman » Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:08 pm

Offerocker wrote:Not really sure why I was there...hmmm ($$$???),,, but DID get my weight, bp, and pulse checked (all of which I can do myself)!

And 12 bills, undoubtedly.
Yep....$$$$$$. Gotta keep greasing the wheels of the economy.
Glad to hear you're doing your part.

I've seen the faces on the doctors and DME folks when I plopped down the Encore Pro and MyEncore printouts......DUUUUHHHH. (what's that?)

Best wishes,

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Post by jskinner » Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:49 pm

Wulfman wrote: I've seen the faces on the doctors and DME folks when I plopped down the Encore Pro and MyEncore printouts......DUUUUHHHH. (what's that?)
I've done this numerous times with doctors and am always amazed at the response. They usually seem completely uninterested. The best response so far was "oh you must be an engineer?"

Most of them ask how I got the data and then seem amazed that a CPAP can actually collect this info. Unbelievable really...


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Post by jskinner » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:25 pm

Just wanted to let those who requested the feature know that I have added the capability to print multiple graphs at once. (this can also allow you to save paper by configuring your printer to print multiple pages per sheet)

Cheers, -james

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Post by DreamStalker » Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:31 am

James -

Just got my first night's data on auto w/cflex machine.

Installed Encore Pro 1.6.22 and your EPA 0.8 and everything seems to be working quite well ... still familiarizing myself with machine and software(s).

ResMed software allows one to view nightly details continuous over sleep session or 24-hour period.

Is there a way to view the continuous data stream (of pressure, leak rate, OAI, and HI) for my first night?

Thanks for the great software.

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Post by jskinner » Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:45 am

DreamStalker wrote: Is there a way to view the continuous data stream (of pressure, leak rate, OAI, and HI) for my first night?
Sounds like you want the full Details report from Encore Pro?

I haven't added any single night graphs to EPA since most of that can be gotten from Encore Pro. If there is a specific graph that would be useful and is not in Encore Pro I will considering adding it however.

-James