First night without power Uggghhh

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First night without power Uggghhh

Post by dreamingofdreaming » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:19 am

After getting solid sleep with CPAP for almost 6 months, I had my first night without power. I am so dependent on this machine to sleep. I am so tired today. I am still paying for the machine and can't bring myself to shell out the $500 plus needed for a back up battery. What do you guys do when the power goes out?

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by Cardsfan » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:24 am

The Freedom Battery is on sale for $250. www.cpap.com has it.

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by CapnLoki » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:34 am

dreamingofdreaming wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:19 am
After getting solid sleep with CPAP for almost 6 months, I had my first night without power. I am so dependent on this machine to sleep. I am so tired today. I am still paying for the machine and can't bring myself to shell out the $500 plus needed for a back up battery. What do you guys do when the power goes out?
Backup solutions start at about $100. Much depends on the type of protection you need (10 minutes, 10 hours, 10 days?) and your settings.

Check out:
viewtopic/t114012/Choosing-a-Battery.html

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by palerider » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:49 pm

Cardsfan wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:24 am
The Freedom Battery is on sale for $250. www.cpap.com has it.
Please don't start out recommending high priced "solutions"

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by ckkomi » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:13 pm

Cardsfan wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:24 am
The Freedom Battery is on sale for $250. www.cpap.com has it.
Dear Cardsfan, I saw on the forum that you have access to DreamStation Go Clinical Guide. It would be great if you sent it to me , would be very grateful.

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by dreamingofdreaming » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:21 pm

CapnLoki wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:34 am
dreamingofdreaming wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:19 am
After getting solid sleep with CPAP for almost 6 months, I had my first night without power. I am so dependent on this machine to sleep. I am so tired today. I am still paying for the machine and can't bring myself to shell out the $500 plus needed for a back up battery. What do you guys do when the power goes out?
Backup solutions start at about $100. Much depends on the type of protection you need (10 minutes, 10 hours, 10 days?) and your settings.

Check out:

viewtopic/t114012/Choosing-a-Battery.html
Thanks for the link. I have read that before, but really can’t understand it very well. I like the idea of a lithium batter connected, that automatically kicks in if the power goes out. I really only need it for one night at a time. I live in a city, where I’m not usually out of power for more than a few hours. Or I have access to go to somewhere that does have power and charge the battery.

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by C-Pop » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:44 pm

I use a generator when the power goes out, but isn't the Dreamstation 12V? For just a night, a lead-acid battery would be cheap. You could keep it float-charged on the balcony/porch.

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:15 pm

Yes, the Respironics machines can run on ordinary 12 volt dc current.
Occasional use can be covered fairly inexpensively.
CapnLoki is the resident guru here on power supplies,
as he spends a fair amount of time off the grid.

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by palerider » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:19 pm

dreamingofdreaming wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:21 pm
CapnLoki wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:34 am
dreamingofdreaming wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:19 am
After getting solid sleep with CPAP for almost 6 months, I had my first night without power. I am so dependent on this machine to sleep. I am so tired today. I am still paying for the machine and can't bring myself to shell out the $500 plus needed for a back up battery. What do you guys do when the power goes out?
Backup solutions start at about $100. Much depends on the type of protection you need (10 minutes, 10 hours, 10 days?) and your settings.

Check out:

viewtopic/t114012/Choosing-a-Battery.html
Thanks for the link. I have read that before, but really can’t understand it very well. I like the idea of a lithium batter connected, that automatically kicks in if the power goes out. I really only need it for one night at a time. I live in a city, where I’m not usually out of power for more than a few hours. Or I have access to go to somewhere that does have power and charge the battery.
Get a scooter battery, get a charger, get the 12v cable. power the cpap from the battery with the 12v cable, put the charger on the battery.

You've basically built a multi-day silent uninterruptable power supply for your cpap, for hundreds less than a 'cpap battery'.

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by dreamingofdreaming » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:34 pm

Any 12 v cord or is there one that's is made for my Machine? Also is there a specific charger? I don't know a lot about this. I really need specifics.
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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by CapnLoki » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:25 am

dreamingofdreaming wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:34 pm
Any 12 v cord or is there one that's is made for my Machine? Also is there a specific charger? I am a woman and don't know a lot about this. I really need specifics.
On the link I gave you, about 12 posts down, is a description of a basic, but robust system. It has links to all the parts - the battery, a high quality charger, and one extra cable. The DC plug has to match your pump - our sponsor cpap.com has it for about $30. Assembly is literally bolting two color coded "rings" to the battery. This will have enough power to run with humidity for a full night, or without humidity for 4-5 nights, and will cost about $120 - its the "bang for the buck winner!"

If this all seems too complex, the cheapest quality battery pack I've seen is the Goal Zero Yeti 150
https://www.amazon.com/Goal-Zero-Portab ... B00CWBABRM
This has about 40% of the power in my system so you won't have enough to run a full night with humidity and heated hose. You'll also need the 12V cord.

With this, and most systems, you want to charge it every month of so, and hook it up during an outage. If you have frequent short outages, your might want an "uninteruptible power supply" or UPS. This you would plug into 24/7 and you system would continue to with no fuss - you might never know there was an issue. However, its only enough for an hour or so, depending on your settings.

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by dreamingofdreaming » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:25 am

Thank you for taking the time to explain this. I think I can figure out the scooter battery. I don't need to ug it in all the time. I can just have it ready for when power goes out. My husband has a charger already, I I think I just need the adapter cables.

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by CapnLoki » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:56 am

dreamingofdreaming wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:25 am
Thank you for taking the time to explain this. I think I can figure out the scooter battery. I don't need to ug it in all the time. I can just have it ready for when power goes out. My husband has a charger already, I I think I just need the adapter cables.
The charger I recommend is the BatteryTender which come in three sizes and includes a battery cable with a plug that matches the charger output. The only accessory needed is the addon "cigarette socket" that also has the matching plug so its possible to plug in in the dark. Since the small charger is only $26 its a good buy. Any automotive battery will work, but you'll have to figure out the cabling. I keep my big car charger with the big alligator clips in the garage, and the BatteryTender in the bedroom.

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by palerider » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:13 am

dreamingofdreaming wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:34 pm
Any 12 v cord or is there one that's is made for my Machine? Also is there a specific charger? I am a woman and don't know a lot about this.
Seriously? What a slam for womanhood.

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Re: First night without power Uggghhh

Post by dreamingofdreaming » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:18 am

palerider wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:13 am
dreamingofdreaming wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:34 pm
Any 12 v cord or is there one that's is made for my Machine? Also is there a specific charger? I am a woman and don't know a lot about this.
Seriously? What a slam for womanhood.
No slam for womanhood. Male or female, I just didn't understand the battery post.