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Post by dsm » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:22 pm

Offer...

Just been thru looking at building websites. There is a revolution going on in that area.

I have not yet worked out what is the ideal - tried DreamWeaver but it is a specialist tool that really requires dedicated commitment. I tried Adobe GoLive but it lacks a decent set of examples.

Here is one site I built recently to test out Ruby-on-Rails with Ajax functionality.
It is the example in the book called 'Agile Web Development with Rails'
http://www.internetage.ws/depot/store

But there are off-the-shelf freeware open source packages for setting up your own web site. Try looking around ...
http://www.openwebdesign.org/

You may be delighted at what you will find.

Cheers

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Post by Offerocker » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:28 pm

THANK YOU, KIND SIR !!

I Shall, and will let you know what I find...stay tuned... (please )

[I guess this means you're not gonna doitforme? Shucks!
ICON doit!! ICON at least try!

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P.S. OK, I give...What is a RAIL??? Suffix or Prefix? (gulp)

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Post by Guest » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:52 pm

do a google search on crws.exe, it shows it to be either spyware or a trojan.

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Post by dsm » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:26 pm

Anonymous wrote:do a google search on crws.exe, it shows it to be either spyware or a trojan.
If it is, then it has eluded all the best virus protection & antispware I have used & that our Countrywide company uses.

My top level protection & scanning software is Zone Alarm Security Suite - have been using ZA products for over 6 years - I get multiple updates each week.

I am satisfied that if it were a trojan or spyware my ZA software would have identified it on one of my many PC/Notebooks (like cpap machines, I have a few )

I have used AutoScan for just under a year. Have run it on old notebooks (with clacky flopps) & new Pentium Duo basde ones as well as a variety of tower systems.

So while the google search will identify a crws.exe as a possible trojan, my security software at home (ZA) & on my work notebook (Norton Corporate AntiVirus) certainly doesn't.

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Bravo DSM and Offerocker!!!

Post by GoofyUT » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:37 pm

Your comments above are SO RIGHT ON, and are SO NEEDED!!!

Thank you both SO MUCH!!

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Post by Offerocker » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:58 pm

DSM & CHUCK:

I noticed all the "protection" he had also!
There has been a list (somewhere) that I've encountered when needed, of "supposed" malware/spyware, etc. when in fact it is NOT. Simply something that may no longer be needed, for instance. One is a module on my system that Verizon uses for trapping keystrokes. It was missing the DLL, but after researching, I decided "Not to Worry" [MotiveSB.exe missing clientutil52.dll] ..either ignore at startup, or remove the motivesb.exe from the startup menu (un-check).

You are both correct - it pays to double-check these things, which are getting to be as "Urban Legends" .

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Post by DreamStalker » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:32 am

Daffney_Gillfin wrote:Ok. I just installed Autoscan on my older computer with a floppy. It wasn't the alive.exe that was accessing the drive, but the crws.exe process. Once I killed that process, the floppy access stopped. I did not install my card reader on that other computer though.

I don't know what the crws.exe is for. I found it also in the Autoscan folder. I have also caught it trying to access the network, and now have it blocked at the firewall from phoning home, or whatever it's trying to do. I've killed the process in the past also, and never encountered a problem doing so.

So if someone with the floppy problem could test this out more thoroughly, and report back any problems, perhaps we can all learn how to deal with it.

Thanks.
So is the MSCONFIG the way to "kill" the crws.exe process as Offrocker stated? ... Also will I need to kill it every time I boot up the PC?

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Post by Offerocker » Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:20 am

MSCONFIG is a Program that you execute via the Start Command.
There are tabs, one of which is Startup. Click on the Startup tab and you will find (XP anyway) a list of programs that are 'tagged' to be initiated upon system startup (restart or boot). Next to each is a 'checkbox'. Most will already be checked, else they wouldn't be there. Clicking on the box will toggle between YES (checked) or NO (unchecked) determinations for the system to start these programs.

UNcheck an application program that you've installed, if you had originally chosen to have it initiated at "Startup" (installation option). That way you will know what program with which you're dealing, and won't be harming anything else. Then restart your computer. That program 'should' not show up on the system tray, or in the background. These all take up valuable space.

Note: You are NOT removing the program when using the Startup tab on this menu.

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Post by aka_oldgearhead » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:04 am

Don't forget to include the "run" command.

Its Start/Run/msconfig (type it in).

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Floppy stopper

Post by Arizona-Willie » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:27 am

CRWS.EXE is not in my startup directory. It does not show up under a list of running processes until I start Autoscan 5.7.

I tried renaming the file to crws.exe.stop and Autoscan crashed.

However, once I start Autoscan I can use Task Manager to kill the process and Autoscan runs just fine.

A .bat file could be used to automate the process, I suppose. I've started programs with a .bat file before but I don't know how to stop one.

We need a programmer to write a .bat file to start Autoscan, wait 10 seconds while it starts, then kill crws.exe.

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Re: Floppy stopper

Post by Offerocker » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:53 am

Arizona-Willie wrote:CRWS.EXE is not in my startup directory. It does not show up under a list of running processes until I start Autoscan 5.7.
CRWS.EXE is most likely what's known as a 'subprogram' or 'subroutine' - one which is 'called' by another program - that way it needn't be in memory all the time since it does only one thing.
Arizona-Willie wrote: I tried renaming the file to crws.exe.stop and Autoscan crashed.
That's because Autoscan, the program, is making a 'call' for CRWS to execute, and it is not there. Bump!!!
Arizona-Willie wrote: However, once I start Autoscan I can use Task Manager to kill the process and Autoscan runs just fine.
I'd suspect that it has already gone to EOJ/End Of Job by the time you killed it.
Arizona-Willie wrote: A .bat file could be used to automate the process, I suppose. I've started programs with a .bat file before but I don't know how to stop one.

We need a programmer to write a .bat file to start Autoscan, wait 10 seconds while it starts, then kill crws.exe.
"Waiting 10 seconds" would need to be relative - to what else is going on on your computer.

IMHO, since you DO have a floppy drive, why not just keep an empty floppy in there and you won't have to do anything. You will have satisfied the program's needs, and no further action is required by you.

What you're proposing, as an extreme example, is to tell the program NOT to scan a hard drive that you're not using.

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Post by rested gal » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:37 am

Maybe putting an empty floppy in the drive before starting Autoscan would work for some, but "been there, done that, way back when". Putting a floppy in never stopped Autoscan from repeatedly trying to access the drive for me. As best I can remember, it didn't appreciably cut down the grinding sound either.
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Post by Offerocker » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:23 am

rested gal wrote:Maybe putting an empty floppy in the drive before starting Autoscan would work for some, but "been there, done that, way back when". Putting a floppy in never stopped Autoscan from repeatedly trying to access the drive for me. As best I can remember, it didn't appreciably cut down the grinding sound either.
...Sounds like a drive problem to me (hardware)...unable to read, & "kept on trying"!
...do you think an Aussie hose would have helped? .
Oh, it was ALREADY "HOSED"... .


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Post by rested gal » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:32 am

Offerocker wrote:
rested gal wrote: ...do you think an Aussie hose would have helped? .
Oh, it was ALREADY "HOSED"... .
Now that you mention it, perhaps a pantyhose leg stuffed in there would have made it quieter.
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Post by Offerocker » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:38 am

I'll keep that in mind! Worked on my CAT! Ahhhh, technology!!

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