Now that you have used the Hybrid

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.

Do you still use it?

Yes-fussy but worth all the effort
8
23%
Yes-easy to use from the very beginning
13
37%
No-a pain-not worth the effort
14
40%
 
Total votes: 35

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krousseau
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Post by krousseau » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:02 am

Getting this back among the pillows polls.
Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.....Galbraith's Law

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Post by risktaker99 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:24 am

I have been using the Hybrid for about 4 weeks now. I had been using the swift mask. My biggest complaint about the swift mask was that I had to use a chin strap since I tend to be a mouth breather. The chin strap made me feel like a mummy, my face felt warm, and the strap on the Swift mask bore into the back of my head. The Hybrid mask is very comfortable to me and I don't have to wear a chinstrap. In the beginning, I couldn't develop a routine to methodically/efficiently put on the mask. Then, I read on one of the threads a simple technique that I now employ. I drape the headgear over my head without the mask. Then, I fit the mask in my nostrils and connect the upper two snaps. Then, I connect the lower two snaps.

As for performance, I have been confused by the readings I'm getting. My AHI's have most of the time been in excess of 5 and the leak rate has been significantly higher than the Swift mask (.44 - .70). I don't feel that there are leaks but maybe I don't know what to look for? The reason why I am concerned is that I don't feel fully rested when I get up.


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Post by cflame1 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:11 pm

risktaker... the hybrid's got a large CO2 washout... it registers as lots of leaks... it's the holes in the mask (put there on purpose) and the hole in the elbow (also there on purpose).

Not sure what the purpose is though, but I like the mask.

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Post by new2 » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:41 am

The Hybrid pillow mask is the best thing that has happened for me since my therapy started. I would have given up on CPAP without it. I can only thank this board for finding and educating me about this wonderful answer to the tape mess I found myself dealing with every night. Thanks you, Cpaptalk.com !


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Post by krousseau » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:16 pm

I had said I was going to stop using the Hybrid for awhile-I have used the Flexifit for a couple nights-the numbers are better but not my sleep/comfort. The Hybrid was yelling to me from it's box in the back room. Smoke from the fires is blowing our way so sinuses are kicking up regardless of what I do-back to the drawing board and another try tonight.
Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.....Galbraith's Law

crazygravy

Draining sinuses and Hybrid

Post by crazygravy » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:19 pm

Got mine today but have had sinus issues for months. I honestly believe I ciuld get this to fit but seconds after turning on the pressure my sinuses drain like crazy to the point of (I know it's gross) running down my chest. Any suggestions? I have chronic sinus infection so it's probably good that they drain but???

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Post by cflame1 » Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:19 am

Try the sinus rinse... get them to drain prior to the mask.

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Post by snoring dutchman » Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:09 am

I have used it on and off for approx. 2 months now, hated it for several weeks, kept trying since I also hate taping my mouth to use my breeze mask. Now, after removing the flap it works well for the first 4 hours of sleep. Leakage starts then and seems to be impossible to stop. I then continue with my breeze mask without taping to finish my nights sleep.
The headgear, however, is lousy. The velcron straps don't hold. I'm using sticky tape to fix them. My supplyer seems to be hesitant to replace it by something better.


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Post by Datona » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:52 am

I have had my Hybrid for one full week and I love it. I never thought I would give up my nasalaire II, but I need a break from my chinstraps and this is such a great mask, I can't believe it. I love it , I love it, I love it.
One thing , however. It sometimes shows I'm leaking when I know I am not. Anyone else have this problem?

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Post by bdp522 » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:12 pm

Because of the high exhaust washout it will read as having higher leaks. I think the normal leak rate for this mask is around 43 at pressure of 8.

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Post by cwsanfor » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:19 pm

I wanted another option in the poll, like "I got higher numbers but still plan to revisit it when my sinuses are better". The Hybrid is so well conceived that I can't believe it will not work for me. However, the F&P HC431 is my default at the moment.


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Post by rested gal » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:21 pm

datona, bdp522 is right. The Hybrid has a much higher normal "leak" rate (from the exhaust) than most other masks.

dsm has a handy chart at his website, showing the normal vent leak rates from quite a few masks. The Hybrid is at the bottom of the chart.

http://www.internetage.com/cpapinfo/leak-rates-1.html

The figures in bold at the top and bottom of the chart are cmH20 pressures. There's more washout from any mask, the higher the pressure being used.
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Post by bdp522 » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:24 pm

Thanks RG. What would we do without you?!? I knew I'd read it somewhere! Of course when I tried to find it I couldn't. I printed it out this time so I'll know where it is next time!

Brenda

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