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Improvement

Post by cancun » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:30 pm

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Best night in awhile, more sleep hours and large leak better than the 48%. Also no CA's last night.
I just have to keep plugging along.
The encouragement from reading all the posts and the responses to my posts makes a huge difference.

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Re: Improvement

Post by HoseCrusher » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:59 pm

I told you visualization would help...

Glad to hear you are figuring things out.

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Re: Improvement

Post by cancun » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:07 am

HoseCrusher wrote:I told you visualization would help...

Glad to hear you are figuring things out.
It does help, then Tuesday night had my first rain out because I upped the humidity so I had to lower that again but my mouth just gets so dry. Tuesday's large leak rate was only 7% but last night was up to 20% but still much lower than the 48% so I am good with that. I did take the mask off again in my sleep at some point, I think for about an hour but when I woke up put it back on.

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Re: Improvement

Post by Pugsy » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:12 am

Are you using the heated hose or the non heated hose?

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Re: Improvement

Post by cancun » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:15 am

Pugsy wrote:Are you using the heated hose or the non heated hose?
Non heated hose, I hate heat!

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Re: Improvement

Post by Pugsy » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:22 am

Which do you hate worse....heat or condensation in the mask or dry mouth?

Did you know that using the heated hose doesn't mean that the air has to be uncomfortably warm or "hot" and still prevent condensation?

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Re: Improvement

Post by cancun » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:24 am

Pugsy wrote:Which do you hate worse....heat or condensation in the mask or dry mouth?

Did you know that using the heated hose doesn't mean that the air has to be uncomfortably warm or "hot" and still prevent condensation?
I hate dry mouth the most!!! I really don't know anything about heated hoses just assumed they put out heat.

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Re: Improvement

Post by Pugsy » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:36 am

Dry mouth from mouth breathing is tough even with a full face mask and humidity set to maximum does NOT always give the desired relief.
Edit to add "not" above as it is kinda important. I know it was there in my head when I was typing.

Heated hoses do add heat and warm the air in the hose and the mask but the amount of heat added can be a little or a lot...it doesn't have to feel like a sauna temperature wise and in fact it never really gets the air anything near that sort of warm.

Using a heated hose would allow you to better customize both humidity delivered as well as the air temp in the hose and mask.
Better chance of adding humidity to maybe help with the dry mouth issues and not cause the rain out issues.
Sometimes it is just a matter of a couple of degrees warmer air.

The other option is to warm up the bedroom air and I assume that is not an option... it wouldn't be for me either.

Read up on how the heated hose works with your machine. It is very possible to use a heated hose (at a rather low temp) and still get a lot of humidity and not experience rain out.
With the heated hose you can adjust humidity and air/hose temp separately.
Trust me on this one....my nose likes LOTS of humidity and I like a cold bedroom but I don't want to breathe "hot" air either....with a heated hose I can get my needed humidity and have a cooler bedroom and not have to deal with annoying rain out and still not have to breathe "hot" air.

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Re: Improvement

Post by palerider » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:39 am

cancun wrote:I hate dry mouth the most!!! I really don't know anything about heated hoses just assumed they put out heat.
they're typically heated to less than body temperature, but more than room temperature.

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Re: Improvement

Post by cancun » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:49 am

Pugsy wrote:Dry mouth from mouth breathing is tough even with a full face mask and humidity set to maximum does always give the desired relief.

Heated hoses do add heat and warm the air in the hose and the mask but the amount of heat added can be a little or a lot...it doesn't have to feel like a sauna temperature wise and in fact it never really gets the air anything near that sort of warm.

Using a heated hose would allow you to better customize both humidity delivered as well as the air temp in the hose and mask.
Better chance of adding humidity to maybe help with the dry mouth issues and not cause the rain out issues.
Sometimes it is just a matter of a couple of degrees warmer air.

The other option is to warm up the bedroom air and I assume that is not an option... it wouldn't be for me either.

Read up on how the heated hose works with your machine. It is very possible to use a heated hose (at a rather low temp) and still get a lot of humidity and not experience rain out.
With the heated hose you can adjust humidity and air/hose temp separately.
Trust me on this one....my nose likes LOTS of humidity and I like a cold bedroom but I don't want to breathe "hot" air either....with a heated hose I can get my needed humidity and have a cooler bedroom and not have to deal with annoying rain out and still not have to breathe "hot" air.
Thanks, I will check into that! I do hate heat, I sleep with my window open in the winter. I have been trying to keep my mouth closed even with the full face mask but it still dries out some and of course once asleep I have no control. Hopefully I will get lucky and my insurance will cover a change in hoses. With my nine days in the hospital I have met my out of pocket expenses for the year.

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Re: Improvement

Post by OkyDoky » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:09 am

When I use Orajel for dry mouth it prevents the dry mouth. I don't always remember to use it but when I do I have no problem with cotton mouth all night.
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Re: Improvement

Post by cancun » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:29 am

OkyDoky wrote:When I use Orajel for dry mouth it prevents the dry mouth. I don't always remember to use it but when I do I have no problem with cotton mouth all night.
Thanks, will have to try that as well.

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Re: Improvement

Post by knothead » Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:50 pm

cancun ,
I lowered my temp just below room temp, 72 at night so my cpap temp was 71 and my humidity was set at 5.5, I had rain out so I kept backing off the humidity leaving the temp alone, now I'm a happy sleeper with 71 temp(I could go lower) and humidity at 4.5 & no rain out. I had it on Auto but wanted a specific temp-humid ratio which I now have but on manual...I like it too much...lol

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Re: Improvement

Post by cancun » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:20 pm

knothead wrote:cancun ,
I lowered my temp just below room temp, 72 at night so my cpap temp was 71 and my humidity was set at 5.5, I had rain out so I kept backing off the humidity leaving the temp alone, now I'm a happy sleeper with 71 temp(I could go lower) and humidity at 4.5 & no rain out. I had it on Auto but wanted a specific temp-humid ratio which I now have but on manual...I like it too much...lol
I have to go online to look at the manual which I haven't done yet, but you can set the temp on the heated hose if you get one? I know the humidity is a number. The night I had the rain out it was actually raining out and I didn't have the AC on and had the window open which might have contributed to it. It didn't bother me so much while I was sleeping just noticed it when I woke up and took the mask off and noticed the water.

So much to learn!!

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Re: Improvement

Post by DxRxTx » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:37 pm

Dry mouth can damage your gums and dental work. Saliva is a lubricant.

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