Centrals before falling asleep?

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Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by sleepinow » Thu May 02, 2013 3:50 pm

With this new ASV I decided to take a nap and see how it goes. After laying down for a bit I started to fall asleep and then stopped breathing. And this happened probablt 5 or 6 times in about twenty minutes.

I was wondering if this goes away or if I should change my settings

Oh and I am wondering if there are cheaper alternatives for a titration study. Like a home titration or something

thanks

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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by Tom W » Thu May 02, 2013 3:59 pm

sleepinow wrote:With this new ASV I decided to take a nap and see how it goes. After laying down for a bit I started to fall asleep and then stopped breathing. And this happened probablt 5 or 6 times in about twenty minutes.

I was wondering if this goes away or if I should change my settings

Oh and I am wondering if there are cheaper alternatives for a titration study. Like a home titration or something

thanks


Did the ASV record them as apneas?

Central or Obstructive?

If they're Central the machine should take of them regardless of pressure settings.....As far as I know.

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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by LSAT » Thu May 02, 2013 4:05 pm

If the Centrals are before you fell asleep or while you were partially asleep, I don't believe they mean anything. Large amounts of Centrals while you are sleeping MAY be a concern.

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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by sleepinow » Thu May 02, 2013 5:06 pm

The centrals are at the very beginning of when I fall asleep. I believe it occurs during sleep stage one

I have not had any sleep with this machine yet. I will get some tonight and post my data tomorrow morning

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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by jdm2857 » Thu May 02, 2013 5:25 pm

sleepinow wrote:Oh and I am wondering if there are cheaper alternatives for a titration study. Like a home titration or something
Autos are sometimes used for home titrations.
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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by sleepinow » Thu May 02, 2013 5:40 pm

I do have an auto cpap and an autosv so would that help me in anyway. if so how?

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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by Pugsy » Thu May 02, 2013 6:45 pm

Sleep onset centrals are normal...we can all have them.
They are a problem if they repeatedly wake us up over and over again. The machine should be able to respond but it's going to take some time for you to
1....get some sleep first
2....get your body adjusting to the machine doing the job of breathing for you because your body may not like it at first
3....need numbers 1 and 2 so that the settings chose have a chance to show us what changes might need to be made.

Doing this at home...be prepared to have an extra dose of patience...even with an in lab titration with optimal pressures found it can take some time for the body to get adjusted to having the machine help....so you need a double dose of patience...one dose to find the right pressures and it probably will not be easy and second dose of patience for when you do come up with workable settings because it simply takes time.

Don't go changing things nightly....you absolutely have to give the machine some time for your body and your brain to get used to things. Bouncing around wildly every night with different this or different that...is the worst thing you can do.
When you do make a change....1 thing to change at a time...otherwise you have no idea what change might have done whatever. Science 101...experiments....keep your variables to a minimum and repeat tests to insure that results are consistent. We don't sleep the same every night....things can vary widely with no changes at all....add in the situation you are in...it's critical that you allow some time and make lots of notes and keep lots of records.

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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by caffeinatedcfo » Thu May 02, 2013 7:39 pm

My machine reported a lot of CAs when I first started CPAP, although none were found during either sleep study. Now I hardly ever see them (one month on CPAP). I disregarded them based on this same advice at the beginning.

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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by sleepinow » Thu May 02, 2013 8:40 pm

Thanks for the advice Pugsy. I sort of understand what you mean by patience. It is just very confusing as to why I even have sleep apnea. I would of never thought I had it in a million years. Oh well, I will be the most patient I can. I just hope this ASV will be much better to deal with. I fell asleep with my APAP on the second day in like 10 minutes so it was not even that bad

And about the onset apneas I am aware of it however I happen to have it all the time with both the machine and without. And then if I would wake up in the middle of the night then it would be much harder for me to fall back asleep because of the centrals. I bought a good air purifier and have noticed a big improvement however it would still be good if I can get some good rest. Well I better start getting ready for bed

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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by sleepinow » Thu May 02, 2013 9:20 pm

Oh before i forget..
Does the recording of my sleep start automatically from my ASV unit or do I need to hit a record option? My sd card is in place

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Min Pressure Support: 3.5
Max EPAP: 25.0
Max Pressure Support: 5.0
Max Pressure: 20.0
Flex Setting: Bi-Flex - 3
Backup Rate:Auto
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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by jdm2857 » Thu May 02, 2013 9:29 pm

The machine automatically records the data.

Just be sure that the SD card is fully inserted into its slot.
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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by John from Brookston » Thu May 02, 2013 9:33 pm

sleepinow wrote:With this new ASV I decided to take a nap and see how it goes. After laying down for a bit I started to fall asleep and then stopped breathing. And this happened probablt 5 or 6 times in about twenty minutes.

I was wondering if this goes away or if I should change my settings

Oh and I am wondering if there are cheaper alternatives for a titration study. Like a home titration or something

thanks
Happened to me when I was taking Melatonin. Scared the bejeebers out of me and it'd take almost an hour to settle down and try again. That's why some nights it took me from midnight to 5AM to fall asleep.

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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by sleepinow » Thu May 02, 2013 9:34 pm

Thank you very much

Time for some good quality sleep!

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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by sleepinow » Thu May 02, 2013 9:36 pm

John from Brookston wrote:
sleepinow wrote:With this new ASV I decided to take a nap and see how it goes. After laying down for a bit I started to fall asleep and then stopped breathing. And this happened probablt 5 or 6 times in about twenty minutes.

I was wondering if this goes away or if I should change my settings

Oh and I am wondering if there are cheaper alternatives for a titration study. Like a home titration or something

thanks
Happened to me when I was taking Melatonin. Scared the bejeebers out of me and it'd take almost an hour to settle down and try again. That's why some nights it took me from midnight to 5AM to fall asleep.
I hear you I only had about an hour and 30 minutes of sleep throught out the night. Once the sun started rising, I slept better

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Min EPAP: 13.0 CmH20
Min Pressure Support: 3.5
Max EPAP: 25.0
Max Pressure Support: 5.0
Max Pressure: 20.0
Flex Setting: Bi-Flex - 3
Backup Rate:Auto
Humidification Mode:off
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Re: Centrals before falling asleep?

Post by letsride » Thu May 02, 2013 9:49 pm

The ASV will take care of any centrals you may be having at any stage of awake / sleep. That is the beauty of this machine.
Get ready to say goodbye to sleep apnea! My AHI 0.0! I Feel energized everyday!
The ASV adapted to my breathing habits. It feels so natural i often wonder if it is even on.
I agree with the other posts ~ slow and small adjustments.
Usually the manufacture standard settings works for about 90% of the people.

I hope your success is equal or better!

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