Airing - "maskless, hoseless, cordless micro-CPAP device"

[EmilySleeps]

Is anyone familiar with this new product apparently under development? How cool if it actually works!

http://www.fundairing.com/about#liberat ... everywhere

[grayghost4]

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=106582&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=airing

viewtopic/t106115/Minimini-CPAP-device.html

[EmilySleeps]

Thanks, grayghost4! This "product" is appearing a lot lately in social media.

Emily

[hobbs]

My take:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoR3qnpyu38

[kteague]

...This "product" is appearing a lot lately in social media.Emily

Out of curiosity I googled it. Within a couple pages of results it seems most of the "talk" in social media is related blogs that fill their pages with info derived from promotional press releases that were re-dressed as articles. Right before Airing's crowd funding started there was a spate of them. Written a few press releases in my time. The vast majority are thinly veiled ads.

I'm not qualified to speak to the capabilities of the device. Just their promotions. Just saying, chatter doesn't always equal support. But they did meet their funding goals, so some are listening.

[WindCpap]

I see no mention of a patent pending anywhere on the web site. I also found no mention of of an existing patent in the inventors name related to this technology. Personally, if I invented this technology, I would have had a patent filed the next day. I then would have sold it to Resmed or Phillips and retired. I am therefore skeptical that the technology even exists.

Edit:

I did some quick calculations, and the minimum battery size to provide 10 L/min at 10 cm water with 100% efficiency would be the substantially larger than the device itself.

[n2it]

My take on this:

The buggy whip maker never thought that he would be out of business because of the invention of the automobile.

Most on here, like myself, are old enough to remember the development of the 8-track tape, then the cassette, then the compact disk, and now the MP3 player (see how the music playing device got smaller and smaller over time). The development of those devices actually resulted in millions of job losses (I actually studied that phenomenon in college) because nobody in the record industry had the foresight to understand that the vinyl record was just too big and cumbersome. And they did nothing to try and change it.

How about the cell phone? Do you remember the very first ones (notably nicknamed "The Brick"). Cell phones today are as small as a watch.

The patent issue is a difficult subject because he is using products and ideas that are contained in the device that already have patents. So development becomes a very difficult and time consuming process (but not impossible).

I can go on and on about products that the public thought would never be developed but what's the point. I see the future in CPAP therapy with this device. But it still has some issues to be addressed, which all new products do (that's why we have R&D teams). It won't be a game changer until:

The battery issue has been resolved. 8-hours is not enough time. But Tesla and Elon Musk are already making vast improvements in battery technology on almost a daily basis.

The cost (as already pointed out). I could see receiving a 30-day supply for "x" amount of money and then returning the used devices to be recycled by the company and then receiving a new supply at a very discounted price from the original batch etc... Think of it like the Dollar Shave Club accept that one has to return the used devices.

Five years from now we'll all be on here laughing at those big bricks with huge masks and hoses that we all wore.

[chunkyfrog]

Medgadget expresses skepticism concerning the Airing technology, --IF it even exists.
The clock is ticking. Either there will be announcements, or criminal charges.
I don't have to tell you what I expect to hear.

[Goofproof]

The most air it produces comes from the exchange on money from fools. Maybe we have finally found it power source. Jim

[Sir NoddinOff]

If I try,
my eye can spy
the pie in the sky.

Not very good haiku, but you get the drift

[n2it]

This is how far CPAP has come in such a short time period (the link of course is from this very board):

viewtopic/t90439/Ancient-CPAP-machine.html

Another example that comes to mind, which I failed to mention above is the personal computer. It went from the size of a compact car to a few pounds in just a few years, literally.

I guess we'll all just to have to wait and see how this develops

[chunkyfrog]

Those of us who understand science realize that technology simply is not there yet.
Maybe some day, likely at least ten or twenty years, maybe more.
"Existing technology", my cloaca!
We can imagine much more than is yet possible, but only some of the miracles of Sci fi fiction exist today.
--{{{Where the heck is my jet pack?}}}
Those who are "working on it" may actually be working on the tech, but they have
NOT FILED ANY PAPERWORK! Which indicates they are only in it for the wish money of fools.

[Hang Fire]

My take on this:

buggy whip
8-track tape
cassette
then the compact disk
MP3 player
cell phone
the personal computer

Which of these involved sticking high speed fans up each of your nostrils and sleeping seven hours?

[n2it]

The post and topic is about innovation, product development, and product evolution. Believe it or not we have all kinds of mechanical devices that can and do reside in ones body.

By the way the fans don't go up your nose. Do your research and then perhaps post a reply that actually adds something of value to a discussion thread.

[Chevie]

Airing is an attempt to take an existing product and improve it by making it smaller and powering it with storage devices instead of ubiquitous electrical outlets.

buggy whip
8-track tape
cassette
then the compact disk
MP3 player
cell phone
the personal computer

Except for the 8-track tape, these represent examples of a product being replaced by an entirely new technology/new product. Airing is an attempt at improving an existing product.

It's good that CPAP manufacturers are improving their products, but the next big breakthrough is likely to be a new technology that is not at all a CPAP.

What seems most silly about Airing, is what is going to keep the fans from blowing the device right out of the nostrils. To hold back a force of 10 cm H2O, the device will need to fit as tight as a cork in an open wine bottle.

The fund raising attempt seems fraudulent. I really have no problem using traditional CPAP.