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Questions about Software.

Post by Snooter » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:46 pm

Questions about Software.

I have my eye on the M-Series APAP.

Can you get basic info from the user interface without the Software?

Do most insurance companies pay for the software?

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Post by cflame1 » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:49 pm

Insurance companies paying for software?? Doesn't usually happen, though in rare cases might.

I've read where there is some data on the screen on the M series machines, but I don't have one personally so don't know for sure.

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Post by rested gal » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:08 pm

Yes, you can get basic AHI and leak info, and (I think) snore data, from the display window without needing software on at least some of the "M" series Respironics machine, like the:

Respironics Pro "M" Series (straight cpap)

Respironics Auto "M" Series (autopap)

I agree with cflame1 that insurance companies usually won't pay for software. There's no billing code for software, as far as I know. That said, I've read of at least one person posting on the message board who said that when he/she submitted the bill to his insurance company for reimbursement for a package he bought from cpap.com (machine, humidifier, software) the insurance company reimbursed 70 or 80% of the total cost which included the software and card reader. That was probably an oversight on the part of the insurance company, however.
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Post by jcranmer » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:45 pm

I have an M series, I don't think it shows snore data, but does show AHI and Leak info as long as your friendly DME and doctor don't keep turning the option off.

Never fear if they do, it's easy to turn them back on.


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Post by rested gal » Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:07 pm

Thanks, jcranmer. I wasn't sure about "snore" data showing up or not. Appreciate the clarification.
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Post by Goofproof » Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:23 pm

The advantage of the software is it shows more, and it shows where, when and how much. The machine just shows avg numbers, not cause and effect and trends. Jim
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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:23 pm

Thanks,

I guess I should ask is it really worth the extra $200 for the S/W?

Does anyone have an M series without S/W and think they get enough info. I don't need a doctorates thesis, just want to see if I need to adjust it.

I think my current snore meter is probably good enough. Last weekend she was sleeping on the floor.

Again, Thanks,

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Post by Wulfman » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:55 pm

Anonymous wrote:I guess I should ask is it really worth the extra $200 for the S/W?
ABSOLUTELY!!!

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Post by blarg » Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:41 am

Also note that you can buy the card reader from Two Factor here for $24 + shipping and then the software can be found elsewhere bringing the total cost down quite a bit.

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Post by Guest » Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:49 am

I was able to get my FSA provider to pay for the software and reader. However, I had to appeal and then only got it because the person I was dealing with had family members who were on CPAP and understood how it could help. This person, personally took my appeal to her supervisor(s) and ended up lobbying for me to get reimbursed. I think I was lucky. Either way, the software is worth the money.

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Post by dataq1 » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:37 am

blarg wrote:then the software can be found elsewhere bringing the total cost down quite a bit.
Where can one purchase the software (without the reader) and how much is it?

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Post by Wulfman » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:24 am

dataq1 wrote:
blarg wrote:then the software can be found elsewhere bringing the total cost down quite a bit.
Where can one purchase the software (without the reader) and how much is it?
Right here on our sponsor's site:

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/respir ... -1.6i.html

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Post by Goofproof » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:45 pm

Wulfman wrote:
dataq1 wrote:
blarg wrote:then the software can be found elsewhere bringing the total cost down quite a bit.
Where can one purchase the software (without the reader) and how much is it?
Right here on our sponsor's site:

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/respir ... -1.6i.html

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Add filters to the purchace to get over $100 and shipping is free. Jim
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Post by Snooter » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:45 pm

Thanks,

I think I'll just forgo the S/W. I don't see the savings for bundling. In fact it's about $10 cheaper if I buy them separately on cpap.com? I'll see how it goes.

I like to make my life less complex rather than more complex. All I need is more software to deal with. If I could find a procedure for less than $2000, I would prefer that.

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Post by t-bone » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:46 pm

I've got the M-series Auto, and I get an information line of "vibratory snores index" in the software. The charts show when I've been snoring, too.

I really liked having the software when the time came for my first follow-up visit with the sleep doctor. He was impressed that I could show him my compliance data and all the other data, and had a clue what it meant (unlike many of his patients, apparently). I can't wait to hand him the printout in March...


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