Covid-19, CPAP cleaning regimen

[Goofproof]

Business as usual! You may be dead, but your bottom line is fine. Jim

Just keep your priorities up and running.

[squid13]

The last toilet paper shortage was in 1973 and here is Johnny Carson's monologue on it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K9-Lz0SbrA It actually caused a run on toilet paper.

[raisedfist]

I think soon enough we are going to experience what Italy is currently going through.

Italy is in meltdown because the government refused to take this all seriousness. Encouraging people to just carry on doing as they always have. Hong Kong, Singapore, are models of what to do their infection rates are low.

Except for one church that refused to change their habits, South Korea is doing well.

It doesn't have to be a disaster.

It doesn't have to be. My parent's have had two guests over today and are going to an event tonight. I'm in middle america. The roads are just as full as ever. Major companies will shut down, but I have zero faith in the average American.

Good luck, surrounded by that much stupid.

My hope is that since I am sick now, is that I DO have it, so I can be done with it and move on. It'd be far worse to recover from some other virus, and then deal with getting Corona on top of that.

Unfortunately unless you're a celebrity the good ol' USA has no test for you. Amazing how dumps of countries have worlds better response than us.

[babydinosnoreless]

I think soon enough we are going to experience what Italy is currently going through.

Italy is in meltdown because the government refused to take this all seriousness. Encouraging people to just carry on doing as they always have. Hong Kong, Singapore, are models of what to do their infection rates are low.

Except for one church that refused to change their habits, South Korea is doing well.

It doesn't have to be a disaster.

It doesn't have to be. My parent's have had two guests over today and are going to an event tonight. I'm in middle america. The roads are just as full as ever. Major companies will shut down, but I have zero faith in the average American.

Good luck, surrounded by that much stupid.

My hope is that since I am sick now, is that I DO have it, so I can be done with it and move on. It'd be far worse to recover from some other virus, and then deal with getting Corona on top of that.

Unfortunately unless you're a celebrity the good ol' USA has no test for you. Amazing how dumps of countries have worlds better response than us.

The treatment is the same if its a virus or if its the covid 19 virus. It's here. We know that. What good is testing ? Id rather see the emphasis put on fixing.

[ChicagoGranny]

What good is testing ?

Those with positive tests should self-quarantine.

[palerider]

Amazing how dumps of countries have worlds better response than us.

Largely because they're not actually "dumps".

[raisedfist]

Italy is in meltdown because the government refused to take this all seriousness. Encouraging people to just carry on doing as they always have. Hong Kong, Singapore, are models of what to do their infection rates are low.

Except for one church that refused to change their habits, South Korea is doing well.

It doesn't have to be a disaster.

It doesn't have to be. My parent's have had two guests over today and are going to an event tonight. I'm in middle america. The roads are just as full as ever. Major companies will shut down, but I have zero faith in the average American.

Good luck, surrounded by that much stupid.

My hope is that since I am sick now, is that I DO have it, so I can be done with it and move on. It'd be far worse to recover from some other virus, and then deal with getting Corona on top of that.

Unfortunately unless you're a celebrity the good ol' USA has no test for you. Amazing how dumps of countries have worlds better response than us.

The treatment is the same if its a virus or if its the covid 19 virus. It's here. We know that. What good is testing ? Id rather see the emphasis put on fixing.

Well if you knowingly have it, completely isolating yourself becomes a pretty kind thing to do. The entire world can't completely self isolate on a whim but knowingly diseased people can and should. The idiots who broke their quarantine to go places should be in prison IMHO.

[palerider]

The treatment is the same if its a virus or if its the covid 19 virus.

Actually, not.

It's here. We know that. What good is testing ? Id rather see the emphasis put on fixing.

Testing is actually *essential* for an appropriate response, that's why many of the countries in Asia that are next door neighbors to China are having much lower infection rates than we are, because of aggressive testing and countermeasures.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... s-does-not

[ChicagoGranny]

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... s-does-not

The chart needs to be redone as per capita. Singapore's population is less than six million. But, it's a dense population.

[palerider]

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... s-does-not

The chart needs to be redone as per capita. Singapore's population is less than six million. But, it's a dense population.

That would just make Singapore look far better.

Singapore: 278.6 sq mi. pop 5.612 million (2017) or an average of 21,646 people/sq mi.
Seattle metro: 5,872.35 sq mi, pop 3,867,000 or an average of 659 people/sq mi

The latest statistics show 572 people in confirmed to be infected in Washington state, 37 dead, 1 recovered.

vs Singapore: 212 confirmed, *ZERO* deaths, 105 recovered.

Numbers may have updated since I posted this.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6

[Olivia]

Of course testing is essential to determine the epidemiology. Some testing is available. My son now has COVID-19 after returning from a business meeting in several European countries. He took masks, sanitizer, gloves, wipes and knew how to protect himself. So what happened? We don’t know, but he sat next to someone at a business lunch who developed a fever the next day. My son had a drive up test at Kaiser. Be safe.

[babydinosnoreless]

What good is testing ?

Those with positive tests should self-quarantine.

Anyone who is sick should self-quarantine. Flu has killed more people than this and yet very few run to the hospital and demand a flu test. I've never been tested for flu and if I get sick now I am not going to run and get tested now. I'm going to stay home until I'm better and not infect others.

Just my own personal opinion. I'm not advocating that for anyone else. Ymmv

[palerider]

What good is testing ?

Those with positive tests should self-quarantine.

Anyone who is sick should self-quarantine. Flu has killed more people than this and yet very few run to the hospital and demand a flu test. I've never been tested for flu and if I get sick now I am not going to run and get tested now. I'm going to stay home until I'm better and not infect others.

I'm sorry to hear that, because you may very well have infected others *before* you realized you were sick, Just like Olivia's son, who was likely infected by someone that wasn't showing symptoms yet.

Knowledge is power.

[TropicalDiver]

Anyone who is sick should self-quarantine. Flu has killed more people than this and yet very few run to the hospital and demand a flu test. I've never been tested for flu and if I get sick now I am not going to run and get tested now. I'm going to stay home until I'm better and not infect others.

Just my own personal opinion. I'm not advocating that for anyone else. Ymmv

So lets compare typical influenza to COVID-19. For the flu, we have the rapid flu test and a few antivirals that can (to some extent) mitigate the illness. Tests are done in the doctor's office while you wait -- anybody can get the flu test. In fact there are around 35 to 40 million done each year in the USA. The tests do a have an issue with false negatives. And, while the effectiveness varies year-to-year, vaccines are widely available. And, yes, influenza causes a significant number of deaths each year.

The novel coronavirus is almost certainly more easily transmitted than the flu. It is also at least an order of magnitude more lethal than the flu. AFAIK, care is primarily supportive in nature. There is no vaccine or "cure". Testing is still extremely limited in the Seattle area. The odds of hospitalization are also much higher. Hospitals have delayed all elective surgeries. Shortages of protective equipment for health care providers is a very real concern.

In one nursing home, there are 180 employees. 47 have tested positive -- there are at least another 25 employees who were tested yesterday or today.

The public health goal is to contain (as much as possible) the number of new infections. This buys time (for vaccine developments and, perhaps, antivirals), avoids swamping the health care system (there are only so many ICU beds -- and things like trauma, stroke, and influenza still happen), and, in an ideal world also reduces the number of deaths. This is a much bigger deal than the the flu (which I would agree the public underestimates) if it gets a good toe hold.

Decent info about who should be tested at:
https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health ... covid.aspx

[babydinosnoreless]

What good is testing ?

Those with positive tests should self-quarantine.

Anyone who is sick should self-quarantine. Flu has killed more people than this and yet very few run to the hospital and demand a flu test. I've never been tested for flu and if I get sick now I am not going to run and get tested now. I'm going to stay home until I'm better and not infect others.

I'm sorry to hear that, because you may very well have infected others *before* you realized you were sick, Just like Olivia's son, who was likely infected by someone that wasn't showing symptoms yet.

Knowledge is power.

As I am following my governments suggestions and staying home, I imagine it would be hard to infect anyone but my family that lives here. If I do start getting sick, I am not going to add to the burden of overworked medical staff unless I am not one of the vast majority that has only mild symptoms.

A little common sense, self reliance and common decency go a long way in a situation like this one. If everyone gets hysterical and demands tests every time they cough the medical system is going to break a lot sooner.