Review of dental appliance to stop mouth leaks

Ok............A letter dated 2001 means ??????
I ordered one of these devices months ago. Guess they're legal now!

Sleepless on LI, do you still use your device? I remember you had some irritation from its use and was wondering if you ever trimmed it ? (I ordered the instrument to trim my mouthpiece, but was too chicken to make the first cut !

inacpapfog wrote:Ok............A letter dated 2001 means ??????
I ordered one of these devices months ago. Guess they're legal now!

Sleepless on LI, do you still use your device? I remember you had some irritation from its use and was wondering if you ever trimmed it ? (I ordered the instrument to trim my mouthpiece, but was too chicken to make the first cut !

Not on cpap anymore. And it wasn't irritation, but an over production of saliva. I never lasted too long with this device. I found the saliva thing a bit too much of an annoyance and was just another cause for awaking during the night. I thought taping with Tegaderm was an easier solution for mouth breathing.

Didn't you order the dremel from the catalogue my husband suggested to you to trim yours? How did that ever work out? Do you still use yours or have you moved on to other things? I found that once I stopped using the Swift, I didn't have mouth breathing anymore. Also, when I had the machine on auto where the numbers stayed lower, the mouth breathing wasn't a problem either. I was using the Aura most of the time, however, just before I stopped therapy and I never had a problem with mouth breathing on that. Actually, the Swift was the only device I had that problem with, although I would still swear it is one of the best out there.

Lori, I ordered the tool that you recommended. But, when it came to the actual cutting, I just lost my nerve!
The device did seem work as far as mouth leaks. But I found out that nightly use just irritated my teeth! Almost felt like my bite or jaw was shifting. I still pull it out and use it once or twice a month. And it is great for travel (when you might not want others to see you in all-of-your-mouth-taped-glory!) Bottom line, taping (I use Durapore) and chin strap continue to be a staples for me.
And about the Swift, that's very interesting! I, in fact, use the Swift more than any other mask that I have and I love it! It is sooooo lightweight, little face contact and is easy to off and on. And, since that little adaptation that you steered us to mnoths ago, I can easily sleep in any position with no leaks! I also have the Aura and love the way it fits except the headpiece. It actually pulls out hair at the hairline! And boy does it ever squish your curls! (They need to market it as a hair staightener! )

inacpapfog wrote:And about the Swift, that's very interesting! I, in fact, use the Swift more than any other mask that I have and I love it! It is sooooo lightweight, little face contact and is easy to off and on. And, since that little adaptation that you steered us to mnoths ago, I can easily sleep in any position with no leaks!

I cannot take credit for something that wasn't my idea. Since I had posted my daughter wearing the setup that way, people seemed to get the impression it was my idea and I had to constantly let them know it wasn't. It was Tridens. You ARE referring to attaching the hose to the top strap, right? He couldn't get the photos to work on the thread so I told him I'd do it with my daughter modeling. But it was totally his incredible idea.

And don't get me wrong. I LOVED the Swift. It was always that and the Aura that I would use exclusively. I never had that problem, though, with the Aura and hair breakage, although I remember Janelle always saying she did. I guess that's why it's been reconstructed by other users, amongst other reasons. I just wanted to set the record straight that I really did think the Swift was a great device and would recommend it to anyone who was looking to try a great nasal pillow interface. I think more people have had success with it than with the Aura, although I thought that was great, too.

Hi everyone,

I haven't logged on for the longest time. Got notification that a thread I started was active again.

I am doing very well sleepwise and in many other ways. After years of experimentation, I turned my 420e into a straight cpap, opened the pressure gates to my official titrated pressure and feel great. Will buy a 420G (straight cpap) for camping and travel as it does not require the little pressure sensor line and to use as a backup as I gave my Remstar with humidifier away.

Anyway, I am still tape free and that's five months now. Same original Dr Sue dental device, wear it seven days a week and it works for me. I remember early on slight teeth discomfort but not anymore and it was now and then and very slight.

The thing is almost as tight as it was on day one and no sign of wearing out. Still have the backup I bought, it is still in it's original packaging just in case this one breaks or gets lost on a trip, or ..... Eventually it will wear down I am sure, may it will last a year?

Sorry yours did not work, I honestly did not think it would for me as I had spent almost two years trying one thing after another and thought this would be another waste of time and money.

Swift, every single day and it works like a champ. I mouth breathed with a dozen other masks of all types and it's no different with the Swift.

Just wanted to give another long term report, take care everyone.

Kermit

Why would anyone take the trouble to point to a warning letter from 2001 on a device that was OKed in 2002?

http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/pdf/k013687.pdf - go to page 5 -6


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ozij wrote:Why would anyone take the trouble to point to a warning letter from 2001 on a device that was OKed in 2002?

http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/pdf/k013687.pdf - go to page 5 -6


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It was just an FYI, ouija, if you look at the subject. I didn't find any further info on it but apparently you did. I didn't offer any opinion or conclusion from this letter, just thought I would point it out. Up to the reader to decide to ignore it or research it more.

Joel

I was having a problem tolerating CPAP. The pulmonary doc suggested that I try a oral appliance. Sent me to dentist who specializes in them. After battling with the insurance co, who finally paid about half 750.00, I was fitted for the appliance and went back for several adjustments. It really stopped my snoring and my apnea (i thought).
Pulmonary doc order an overnite home oximeter test. During 6.5 hrs my oxygen levels dropped below 90% over 200 times, once dropping below 70%.
Doc immediately scheduled another sleep study using Bipap with CFLEX. My oxygen level never dropped and I have been able to tolerate the Bipap much better than CPAP.

Both Sleepless & I wasted good money on Dr Sue's NB device.

I bought it on the strength of Kermit's comments in 2005 but today I would warn anyone to take what he says with caution. Kermit's posts seem to pop up from time to time to reiterate what a great device the NB is. I wish it had lived up to his glwoing claims.

The cost to me was over $US120 due to extra mail charges.

I am predicting that most purchaser's of the NB device shelve them fairly quickly.

DSM

(held of saying this for many months as I wanted to really think before commenting - I don't like passing negatives on about devices if there is a chance it was only an issue related to my use)

DSM,

Don't feel bad about posting a negative about something you honestly feel. It may cause someone to think twice about something and give them something that perhaps they never even thought about before. And I hope everyone knows that when we post negatives, and positives for that matter, it doesn't mean that everyone gets the same results. But that is what this site is all about. It's not just for posting rave reviews about the items we like; it's giving all the views so that the members are aware of all sides of an issue.

You have always shown yourself to be such a kind and helpful member here that I'm sure people will take your negative reviews seriously since it's a rare moment when you give one.

Update - couple of links to topics by Ellen who is having success with the NoseBreathe device:

May 24, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: NoseBreathe

Apr 29, 2006 subject: nose breathe dental appliance

Hi everyone ... Kermit here.

I had forgotten about my post #34 July 16, 2005 recommending the Nosebreathe dental device.
I looked up this post when recommending the device to a good friend.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3807

Been more that 15 years. I would like to update the forum on what is obviously device long term use.

Bottom line, I have been and continue daily use of the SAME device I purchased in 2005. Really !
If I forget to use, I still feel the same negative effect that morning. I don't dare NOT use it.
In fact I worried that should something happen to it I would be in trouble, so years later I ordered a second as backup. I was fortunate that they still had my original mold. Not sure they would today.

I hope this long overdue update helps members that are experiencing mouth leaks.
Am nearing 72 years old now and a happy long term cpap user. I have said it before and will again, cpap use saved my life in more ways than one.

Best wishes to the new forum "generation". Don't recognize members here now. Take care - good sleep.


Kermit

Kermit wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:46 pm

Hi everyone ... Kermit here.

I had forgotten about my post #34 July 16, 2005 recommending the Nosebreathe dental device.
I looked up this post when recommending the device to a good friend.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3807

Been more that 15 years. I would like to update the forum on what is obviously device long term use.

Bottom line, I have been and continue daily use of the SAME device I purchased in 2005. Really !
If I forget to use, I still feel the same negative effect that morning. I don't dare NOT use it.
In fact I worried that should something happen to it I would be in trouble, so years later I ordered a second as backup. I was fortunate that they still had my original mold. Not sure they would today.

I hope this long overdue update helps members that are experiencing mouth leaks.
Am nearing 72 years old now and a happy long term cpap user. I have said it before and will again, cpap use saved my life in more ways than one.

Best wishes to the new forum "generation". Don't recognize members here now. Take care - good sleep.


Kermit

Wow! 15 years of ownership and continuous use is quite the recommendation! Price is up significantly ($345 for heavy mouth breather device) but might be worth it if the cheap ones at Amazon don't work.

Hi DurtGurl,

The one I have seems to now be called the NoseBreathe mouth piece. I noticed it is listed as $140 plus other charges like shipping and God knows what else.

I don't know what the "heavy mouth breather" device is. Mine is the simple tongue shelf and yes aside from discoloring it's as solid as it was when I bought it.

If the "heavy mouth breather" device you know will help you, I would advise you to cut back expenses in other areas of life and get it. Good health is priceless. But yes it is a lot of money for a piece of plastic.

Take care,

Kermit