Airing device??? To replace cpap????

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Airing device??? To replace cpap????

Post by Jackie1 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:41 am

Anyone see this?
THoughts?

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Re: Airing device??? To replace cpap????

Post by Goofproof » Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:53 am

I'll take a large piece of Apple Pie in the Sky! Go ahead send them your retirement check. Jim

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Re: Airing device??? To replace cpap????

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:56 am

Type "Airing" into the search window to see previous thread.
Not their first crowdfunding attempt.
The first was a dismal failure.
Years away from reality, IF EVER.
But it's your money.
Easier to set it on fire; at least the con artists will not get your name.

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Re: Airing device??? To replace cpap????

Post by Jackie1 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:05 pm

Goofproof wrote:I'll take a large piece of Apple Pie in the Sky! Go ahead send them your retirement check. Jim

Been post and Cussed and Discussed many times here. Search!
Thanks, I did do a search and nothing came from the results? Maybe I searched wrong, but don't know how you could search wrong. Can someone post a link to the previous thread?
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Re: Airing device??? To replace cpap????

Post by palerider » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:14 pm

Jackie1 wrote:
Goofproof wrote:I'll take a large piece of Apple Pie in the Sky! Go ahead send them your retirement check. Jim

Been post and Cussed and Discussed many times here. Search!
Thanks, I did do a search and nothing came from the results? Maybe I searched wrong, but don't know how you could search wrong. Can someone post a link to the previous thread?
just how did you 'search'? I typed 'airing' into the search bar and got

Search found 260 matches: +airing

you can also go to google and search 'airing' and find out what bullshit other cpap sites think it is, or for a more targeted search, put site:cpaptalk.com in the google search window to restrict it to here. (probably works on other search engines too.

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Re: Airing device??? To replace cpap????

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:28 pm

Not a first time poster.
Otherwise, I'd be shouting,
"SHILL"
{{{did I just do that?}}}

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Re: Airing device??? To replace cpap????

Post by palerider » Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:01 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Not a first time poster.
Otherwise, I'd be shouting,
"SHILL"
{{{did I just do that?}}}
I think you did.... how about... er, right, sorry "don't pick on the slow kid". nevermind.

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Re: Airing device??? To replace cpap????

Post by LSAT » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:15 pm

I think someone earlier pointed out that this is a one time use item that costs $3 each.....that's $90 month or over $1000 a year. They have been collecting donations for well over 18 months....I don't believe it will ever materialize as a viable product. No way this could open an airway.

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Re: Airing device??? To replace cpap????

Post by Goofproof » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:36 pm

LSAT wrote:I think someone earlier pointed out that this is a one time use item that costs $3 each.....that's $90 month or over $1000 a year. They have been collecting donations for well over 18 months....I don't believe it will ever materialize as a viable product. No way this could open an airway.
Maybe it it was packed with two hoses you could force into each nostril and run into each lung, and a nasal spray that would stiffen the hoses so they would remain open, then you could throw away everything else in the box. Jim
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Re: Airing device??? To replace cpap????

Post by pumbany » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:41 pm

I think I read in the article that you need to use a new one of these airing devices every day so that could be expensive.

It's also would be a problem for those of us that sleep with our mouth open and I am not sure what % of cpap users are open mouth sleepers.

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Re: Airing device??? To replace cpap????

Post by Omne » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:48 pm

I'm more interested in the micro-blowers. Outside of the fact that their design is already covered by a bunch of patents it's basically just a diaphragm pump.

Looks like anything resembling this in actual production is based on a piezoelectric design which has some distinct limitations. The first one being that the exhaust is pretty much always from the center of the blower due to the deformation of the diaphragm which moves the air. Since they run 20mm or so on a side it's going to be hard to stack those in parallel unless you have a really big space. They're 2mm thick but if you stacked them that way you'd end up with them in series which would get you nothing at all based on their design. If companies like Murata haven't bothered developing a blower based on the proposed design on the Airing webpage, which is extremely simple in theory, I'm skeptical there's any value to the idea.

The ones they have are impressive little buggers though: http://www.murata.com/en-us/products/me ... fluid/demo

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Re: Airing device??? To replace cpap????

Post by LSAT » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:53 pm

pumbany wrote:I think I read in the article that you need to use a new one of these airing devices every day so that could be expensive.

It's also would be a problem for those of us that sleep with our mouth open and I am not sure what % of cpap users are open mouth sleepers.
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