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Slightly OT - Books to read

Post by JDS74 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:29 am

For those of a medical Inclination:
"How Doctors Think" by Dr. Jerome Groopman
"The Checklist Manifesto - How to Get Things Right" by Dr. Atul Gawande

For those who really like to cook and want to read about world class chefs:
"Knives at Dawn - America's Quest for Culinary Glory at the Legenday Bocuse D'Or Competition" by Andrew Friedman

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Re: Slightly OT - Books to read

Post by 49er » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:12 am

JDS74 wrote:For those of a medical Inclination:
"How Doctors Think" by Dr. Jerome Groopman
"The Checklist Manifesto - How to Get Things Right" by Dr. Atul Gawande

For those who really like to cook and want to read about world class chefs:
"Knives at Dawn - America's Quest for Culinary Glory at the Legenday Bocuse D'Or Competition" by Andrew Friedman
Here is another one for you JDS74:

When Doctors Don't Listen: How to Avoid Misdiagnoses and Unnecessary Tests

I am really excited as the author is coming to my area next week and I am going to hear her speak.

Many years ago, I read "How Doctors Think". I was absolutely floored that someone had been repeatedly misdiagnosed for several years as having an eating disorder before a doctor correctly diagnosed her as having celiac disease. The different was he refused to just rely on previous doctor reports and really wanted this patient to tell the story in her own words.

What is even more incredible is this person who was misdiagnosed almost didn't go see the doctor who finally diagnosed her correctly because she felt it would be more of the same BS. Can't remember what convinced her to keep the appointment.

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Re: Slightly OT - Books to read

Post by JDS74 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:14 am

Thanks, I'll see about getting a copy.

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Re: Slightly OT - Books to read

Post by BlackSpinner » Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:11 pm

49er wrote:
I am really excited as the author is coming to my area next week and I am going to hear her speak.

Many years ago, I read "How Doctors Think". I was absolutely floored that someone had been repeatedly misdiagnosed for several years as having an eating disorder before a doctor correctly diagnosed her as having celiac disease. The different was he refused to just rely on previous doctor reports and really wanted this patient to tell the story in her own words.

What is even more incredible is this person who was misdiagnosed almost didn't go see the doctor who finally diagnosed her correctly because she felt it would be more of the same BS. Can't remember what convinced her to keep the appointment.
The AVERAGE length of time to diagnose Celiacs is NINE years . This means many people go for much more the 9 years with no or the wrong diagnosis.

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Re: Slightly OT - Books to read

Post by friar » Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:21 pm

old Zorba there just sulked off into the Aegean, totally oblivious to the obvious.

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Re: Slightly OT - Books to read

Post by 49er » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:47 am

BlackSpinner wrote:
49er wrote:
I am really excited as the author is coming to my area next week and I am going to hear her speak.

Many years ago, I read "How Doctors Think". I was absolutely floored that someone had been repeatedly misdiagnosed for several years as having an eating disorder before a doctor correctly diagnosed her as having celiac disease. The different was he refused to just rely on previous doctor reports and really wanted this patient to tell the story in her own words.

What is even more incredible is this person who was misdiagnosed almost didn't go see the doctor who finally diagnosed her correctly because she felt it would be more of the same BS. Can't remember what convinced her to keep the appointment.
The AVERAGE length of time to diagnose Celiacs is NINE years . This means many people go for much more the 9 years with no or the wrong diagnosis.
Didn't realize that BS. If I remember correctly, it took the woman in the book 15 years to get the right diagnosis. I am sure having a DSM diagnosis didn't help her situation.

By the way, have you seen any research as to why it takes people so long to get diagnosed with Celiac? Is it because doctors are just not familiar with it or is it due more due to what happened to the woman in the book since because she had a mental health diagnosis (eating disorder), doctors stopped listening?

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Re: Slightly OT - Books to read

Post by 49er » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:54 am

Here is another book to consider that I downloaded to my Kindle to preview that looks interesting:

The Take-Charge-Patient - How you can get the best medical care by Martine Ehrenclou

Ms. Ehrenclou saw 12 mainstream and 3 alternative health providers for mysterious pelvic pain before seeing a surgeon who diagnosed her correctly and cured her with an operation.

Not sure I will buy it but I thought I would mention it in case this type of book appealed to someone else on this board in light of common difficulties in finding good medical care.

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